Entertainer Archive
Thread: Is it unfair to tip just one person in a large group?
In another thread, I read this comment:
-If i walk into a cantina and there is a group of like 8+ people there is no well in hell im tipping all of you, since it would be unfair to tip just one since you are benifiting from the whole group i wont tip anyone.
That just struck me as an odd reason to not tip. Do other entertainers feel slighted if someone else is tipped while you're not?
If I'm in a group of 10 performers, I don't feel bad if someone else gets someone's tip. Sometimes I'm the lucky one; odds are likely that I'm not.
And if I get a large tip, I will share the wealth with other performers.
While I can see the original poster not wanting to cause an imbalance in the group, I think I would prefer the inherent bias in picking only one performer to tip instead of dismissing the idea of a tip since it isn't fair to everyone else. Why should everyone lose? If one person wins, then it helps to make his day.
Thoughts on this?
I think that people have the right to tip whomever they wish. I think as entertainers we have a duty to treat tippers with discreet and respect. I dont like when someone acknowleges a tip outloud. It puts the tipper on the spot especially if they havnt tipped everyone. A /tell to the tipper is the best way to handle it and no ones feelings get hurt.
C
Zephyr8769 wrote:
I am new to the profession (n00b question warning!)but is there a reason /autosplit doesn't work with Entertainer groups and /tip? I would think that that would solve the problem. But there is always the people that tip 10cr and in a 10+ group that would be useless.
It does not work for tips.
And I hope it continues to not work for tips. Someone may be tipped for a reason unrelated to dancing, such as the sale of crafted goods, payment for teaching, or selling information.
But a /grouptip would be handy, and this idea has been bandied about.
I hadn't thought about that but your right. And the /grouptip would be very handy
Kuildeous wrote:
It does not work for tips.
And I hope it continues to not work for tips. Someone may be tipped for a reason unrelated to dancing, such as the sale of crafted goods, payment for teaching, or selling information.
But a /grouptip would be handy, and this idea has been bandied about.
1. I think /grouptip would be nice if someone wants to send over 100 to the group and let it split, though evenly? Would the group leader get the remainder? I would guess so, since that seems like the obvious answer.
2. I agree that people should tip whom they want. When I am dancing, I make sure that people who come in get recognized and I also try to smile at them or some macro to make them feel part of the "scene". Also, some people just dance and some just play. Those who are good will mix it up with either macros, speech (or just speaking to people) or just a simple flourish (in the case of a dancer) directed at a customer. I also try and change my outfits if I am somewhere for an extended period of time, so people don't have to see the same thing every time.
I don't think everyone needs to do this, I am just saying that if I make over 500creds in a few hours in tips, I feel I earned them.
The worst part for me is when I miss the message that I was tipped and am unable to thank that particular person.
/grouptip - Yes!
/tip - Absolutely!
The only time I get bothered by one or two people in a large group getting tipped is this: When it's only the skimpilt clad dancers. I know it's male human nature to want to spend your money on the woman with the largest breast and least clothes. But as a male musician who in most cases, has more healing abilitiy than any of the dancers in my cantina, and who constantly greets virtually everyone who enters my cantina, I feel a bit jipped, sometimes. That said, my dancers are good people, and will usually give me a cut of the tip, knowing I worked just as hard as they did for it.
And if you know you're only going to tip the dancers, at least be polite enough to respond to a musician who's going out of his way to make you feel welcomed in the cantina / hotel / whatever. We're people too, not just NPCs.
For the most part though, I don't find this to be too big of a problem, just a few people who habitually do it. And usually when I see one of them come in, I stop playing and take a break. If all they're there for is the dancing, I'm not going to waste my time.
-- Jigs Sunphire [Master Entertainer / Musician - Nashal, Talus - Eclipse Server]
In the smaller cantina my PC dances in, the male musician gets more tips than she does, even though she is a cute female Twi'lek. Hm... maybe it's because I refuse to strip her down to her underwear -- she is a professional dancer, not a stripper.
But actually, I think it's because the musician has been there, often all by himself, in that cantina, for several weeks, and he has LOTS of local pals. My dancer has only been going there for a little over a week and people are starting to get to know her but not to the same level.
Also, the musician is good. He flourishes constantly (we can tell if he loses his connection because suddenly the flourishes stops even if he has a large amount of action left) and does so in very nice, pleasing combinations.
And he's a nice guy. He greets everyone who comes in, takes song requests even if it'd mean he'd "grind less xp", and he gets a kick out of his character (costume changes, different instruments, different music, etc). He is having fun and makes it fun for people to come into the cantina.
So there you go. Male musician making way more in tips than female Twi'lek dancer.
And still, I am not stripping her down to her underewear -- tips or no tips. :-)
C