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Thread: Proposal to make Master Entertainer different from Musician 1.1

sweatyclimber
Wed Aug 27, 2003 1:04 am
#1

i think this would be a great way to seperate them... i think soe wants us using up our sp tho and thats y its set up that way but almost all your suggestion would be a great addition



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Lolic
Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:14 am
#2

I would love the ability to move while dancing/playing music.


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Funkyone
Wed Aug 27, 2003 12:35 pm
#3

I've been thinking of a way to make the master entertainer box more rewarding... Right now, ME means :
- Footloose2 and Formal2 useless dances.
- Ceremonial, one of
- Mandoviol, the only stringed instrument.
That's why you only see musicians get this box usually. the only really interesting thing in there is the mandoviol. So I will agree that remove the mandoviol and put it in the musician tree will only decimate the ME only interest.

So the question I thinked about is : What can devs can put in the ME box if the mandoviol has to be moved ? It should be "Entertaining things", but not only music related. the ME must add something cool, just like master marksman and brawlers gain new stackable bonuses and special hits, like artisan can craft unique stuff...
My proposal is to revamp the box completely. Remove the dances and put them in the novice dancer box. Remove mandoviol and ceremonial and put it in the musician tree where they belong, or just add another stringed instrument in musician tree (Vibro-harp was praised). and add to the entertainer box :

*** 1 *** The ability to move while dancing or playing music, when not flourishing.

*** 2 *** New shematics for ME only :
- Loudspeakers. With those you can alter the different instrument dynamics and volumes, so you can lower the slitherhorn sound to raise the volume of mandoviol, just like a mixing table.
- Microphones. When you use those you have new commands /sing2, /sing3, /sing4 and /sing5 who are new bubble that look different from sing. for exemple the bubble for sing2 accentuate the start of the sentence, it would be great to create dynamic songs.
- New unique "cool looking" instruments for horn sounds. Those instruments, beside looking unique, should have very low action cost since they are here for entertaining purpose. I really hate how we have to use an ugly slitherhorn or fizz if there is no medic near to play longer.
- Spotlight flying droids, different kinds of light equipments...

*** 3 *** The ability to tint instruments. not all colors should be available of course, but it will help create unique bands.

*** 4 *** I could also see some resist bonus (+5 to dizzy/stun/intimidate/knockdown...) as a reflect of the ability a master entertainer to support any unexpected occurences during his show .


Do you think this proposal valid ? more ideas, suggestions ?


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Gknee
Wed Aug 27, 2003 5:45 pm
#4

YAY!! I love it. Good ideas!



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Kiriah
Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:14 pm
#5

I like those ideas but I have one of my own, perhaps born only of personal frustration with the Elite performing skilltrees --

Give MEs special flashes and lights the way the Dancing and Musician professions have. It stinks to have to decide between a new dance/more skill, and lights / smokebomb / effects that don't do much more than entertain and break the monotony. I think both Dancers and Musicians would appreciate this, and it might cause more Dancers to spend that little extra time to pull down ME so the have something to jazz up their numbers without having to waste hours of dance time that could be used to get a new dance and instead spend it on...sparkles. (Says here the sparklies also include the ability to Enhance the Mind, ie Mind Buffs but as far as I know very few people even know this exists, and those who do don't often explain where it comes from thus leading to screaming matches of LIARLIAR!)

Other wise, I mostly like the "At least 1 more stringed instrument on the Musician Skill Tree" part.



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Chirri Lin
Master Dancer
Master Musician
Master Image Designer
Master Entertainer
Faydra
Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:12 am
#6

some very nice ideas


like to add a +5 to dodge becouse were fast and nimble


Hijo
Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:31 am
#7

It would make the most sense to give MEs who are also dancers or image designers something that makes them coo-coo for cocoa puffs the way that mandoviol and ceremonial do for the musicians. I think:


1. Take the 2 dances that are in ME now and put them anywhere else in the dance line - no one cares about them. Replace them with a dance or two that would make ME worthwhile. (I find it very hard to get excited about a dance... I think the exotic ones are a big waste of skill points... so perhaps dancers can tell you what they would like)


2. Either add some new hairstyles (or colors, etc) to the ID line and put them in ME... or take some of the upper-middle range styles available already and give them to MEs.


I realize that a lot of people feel that it isn't worth going ME just for a couple of dances or some hairstyles, but we are probably the same people that feel that dance and image design in general is a waste of time and points. A new song and instrument seems much more tangible and easy to get excited over than any ID or Dance skill, but at least ME would contain some upper level things from all professions this way.

saav
Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:03 am
#8

It makes no sense to me right now that Image Designers get nothing from ME. It should provide special skills for all trees. It would be really nice if dancers got a unique dance rather than just a version 2. I definitely think musicians get the best out of it.



Saav

Master Dancer
Master Entertainer
Master Image Designer
ZarNay
Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:44 am
#9

How about some boni for image designers too? I thought about some kind of piercings and fancy hair colours which would be especially desired by other entertainers, musicians and dancers to make their style more unique
I like the ideas about the loudspeakers, microphones and especially that one about tinting instruments but I think there should also be some boni for the dancers when they reach master entertainer. How about some dances where you could interact with your watchers or some items (connected with special dances) with which the dancers could interact with, like a chair or a pole to dance around (don't know the exact English expression for this but I hope you understand what I mean ).




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SinnAsyr
Sun Aug 31, 2003 1:38 pm
#10

Great Ideas man!



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SinnAsyr
Sun Aug 31, 2003 1:43 pm
#11

but then i wouldn't want to get Master Entertainer... maybe some song, dance AND instrument worth getting
Ideas: Song: SW4 Jabba's palace song
Instrument: Drum Set
Dance:....ummmm, i dont know......

Or would this bring up the same problem........



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