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Thread: Master Entertainer Suggestion
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Aleyo
Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:07 am
#1
So, this is just my putting together of various other people's ideas, so although I don't know all the names of who's come up with the ideas, I want to throw some credit in their general directions.
I like the idea of letting non-ents dance for small periods of time, to take part in parties and such. The /dance animation is there, obviously, but doesn't really fit with a lot of the dances. I also want to throw the IDers something in the master entertainer box. So here's what I suggest.
At master entertainer, you gain the ability to ID someone so that they can dance for a period of, say, one minute. Getting higher levels of ID could increase how long you could let someone dance, but the ability to do it at all would only be at Master Entertainer (since you'd have to have some knowledge of dance to know how to make other people look like they're dancing). The choice of dances available would be any dance that your character knows how to do. So if you're only master entertainer, you select from the basics, rhythmics, footlooses, and formals.. if you go ahead and master dancer as well, you get to select exotics, etc.
When someone uses this 'holodance' that's been given to them by an ID, they dance the base step for the set period of time. They don't provide healing/buffing, and they can't flourish, *except* that they can accept bandflourishes and thus be controlled by an actual dancer.
So benefit to musicians: zero, they already have ceremonial and mandoviol, which are kick-ass.
Benefit to IDs: they have a new nifty thing they can sell besides the holoemotes. I know I love holoemotes and get them whenever I can - it's the thing I go to IDs most for. It'd be fun to sell these when doing a stat migration: "BTW, you wanna taunt those rebels? Try doing a /holodance after you send one to a cloner. I suggest flourish 2, which'll wiggle your butt in their direction"
Benefit to Dancers: they get to invite friends to dance with them. I can't tell you how many times someone's in the cantina and wants to join in the dancing just for a bit, but is not willing to either give up the SP, or to go find the trainer to do so. And those master dancers who have combat-oriented significant others can share a little exotic with them to do some nice partner dancing once in a while.
Hmm, I think that's all the details I thought about this morning in the shower. Let me know what you think.
I like the idea of letting non-ents dance for small periods of time, to take part in parties and such. The /dance animation is there, obviously, but doesn't really fit with a lot of the dances. I also want to throw the IDers something in the master entertainer box. So here's what I suggest.
At master entertainer, you gain the ability to ID someone so that they can dance for a period of, say, one minute. Getting higher levels of ID could increase how long you could let someone dance, but the ability to do it at all would only be at Master Entertainer (since you'd have to have some knowledge of dance to know how to make other people look like they're dancing). The choice of dances available would be any dance that your character knows how to do. So if you're only master entertainer, you select from the basics, rhythmics, footlooses, and formals.. if you go ahead and master dancer as well, you get to select exotics, etc.
When someone uses this 'holodance' that's been given to them by an ID, they dance the base step for the set period of time. They don't provide healing/buffing, and they can't flourish, *except* that they can accept bandflourishes and thus be controlled by an actual dancer.
So benefit to musicians: zero, they already have ceremonial and mandoviol, which are kick-ass.
Benefit to IDs: they have a new nifty thing they can sell besides the holoemotes. I know I love holoemotes and get them whenever I can - it's the thing I go to IDs most for. It'd be fun to sell these when doing a stat migration: "BTW, you wanna taunt those rebels? Try doing a /holodance after you send one to a cloner. I suggest flourish 2, which'll wiggle your butt in their direction"
Benefit to Dancers: they get to invite friends to dance with them. I can't tell you how many times someone's in the cantina and wants to join in the dancing just for a bit, but is not willing to either give up the SP, or to go find the trainer to do so. And those master dancers who have combat-oriented significant others can share a little exotic with them to do some nice partner dancing once in a while.
Hmm, I think that's all the details I thought about this morning in the shower. Let me know what you think.
DarkY0da
Tue Oct 26, 2004 11:14 am
#2
a holodance ability would be pretty cool. And would fit very well I think at a Master Ent skill box. Something though that I think really needs to be done with the ID line of Entertainer is it needs to be made so that no matter what race you are you can work on yourself. It can be rather annoying to get a skill and not be able to use it.
TechnoCan
Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:42 pm
#3
Hmm... mixing up ID with Dancer or in a similar way Musican at master entertainer level... I have to confess, that I was a bit concearned about puting any ID-options into the Master Entertainer Box. It might mean that to be a 'competative ID' you'd need to aquire Master Entertainer instead of only ID 4... Since not all ID are Dancers or Musicians, too this could mean a paroblem. But puting in something to combine ID with Dancer or Musician sounds like a nice idea to beef up those ID, that combo with dancer and or Musician. I think I really like this idea 
Trobon18
Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:43 pm
#5
TechnoCan wrote:
Hmm... mixing up ID with Dancer or in a similar way Musican at master entertainer level... I have to confess, that I was a bit concearned about puting any ID-options into the Master Entertainer Box. It might mean that to be a 'competative ID' you'd need to aquire Master Entertainer instead of only ID 4... Since not all ID are Dancers or Musicians, too this could mean a paroblem. But puting in something to combine ID with Dancer or Musician sounds like a nice idea to beef up those ID, that combo with dancer and or Musician. I think I really like this idea
The truth is that all entertainer professions have no need to compete. The only thing IDs have to worry about is Master ID for all the changes and Stat migration. 1 or 2 holo emotes wont really make much of a difference.
I like this idea. I am all for getting Master Entertainer some love and think ID isn't represented enough in entertainer.
SakeO
Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:48 am
#6
My view is that holoemotes seem more likeMaster ent abilitiy to me..and I am a master ID. I think Master Entertainer is a little unimpressive as it is now. Mandoviol is cool but this holodance thing could fit nicely.I would also add the ability to give others the ability to sing temporarily too.I sort of wonder if there should be xp for this and what type it should be. Lord knows, IDs could use another means. LOL
Chasing Amy - Bria
DitahCotton
Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:05 am
#7
On a lighter note, TK/master ents should get a new attack. Wouldn't you like to read:
** So-and-so has been El Kabonged for 3000 dmg ***
Xyrdre
Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:47 am
#8
Actually, I'm pretty sure that Ell' Kabong has done this.
I'm sure it makes it tough to keep Carmena in tune though.
Panthu
Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:18 am
#9
*snickers*
Xyrdre wrote:
Actually, I'm pretty sure that Ell' Kabong has done this.
I'm sure it makes it tough to keep Carmena in tune though.
fett3041
Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:15 am
#10
Excellent idea, Scip. Ran it by Marina who also thought it's a great idea. Brings the IDs a little more 'into the family' so to speak.
Gknee
Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 am
#11
odd....I was just talking about this with someone. Not a holodance but some kind of holoemote or something. As a musician I know the benefits of Master Entertainer. I'm also sure that I'mprobably only one of a few that actually loves to dance formal2. (nothing better in the rain..ok.maybe lyrical but I'm a musician). But the ID tree always bugged me slightly. Sure..I like changing my friends hair colors to the basic tones...but nothing special. I really hope this gets some looks.
Echinacea
Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:16 am
#12
I've always loved Formal2. But the way it looks to other people, and even the way the base loop looks to me, just make it not worth the skill points unless you're getting Master Entertainer for ye olde Ceremonial/Mandoviol.
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