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Thread: a solution for the afk grinders

sweatyclimber
Thu Jan 01, 2004 3:10 am
#1

lets just make theaters have double or tripple the xp given (including ent healing) but offer no healing to the customer... thus they can go there to grind and we can have our customers in the cantina and have the cantinas return to what they once were



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Chessack
Thu Jan 01, 2004 9:29 am
#2

Personally...

I wish they just had an auto-master button. Get novice ent. Press the auto-master button. It charges you the total amount of training you would have to pay for to learn every skill in the tree (I believe it's 155,100 cr). Press OK. Loose 155,100 cr and become an auto-master Dancer. The ONLY thing you can't get is the titles. It would be "Dancer" instead of "Master Dancer" (and none of the lower titles like "enthraller", since you never really were one).

Since most of the people AFK grinding have plenty of money from grinding one or more other professions, I think this'd be a great option.

In fact I'd love to see it added for every profession. Let people just auto-level, if you're going to allow AFK grinding. They amount to the same thing anyway, the AFK just takes longer. Neither requires any game-play to achieve.

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ArthurP
Sat Jan 03, 2004 11:21 am
#3

As much as would like to disagree with your idea of auto-leveling or paying for it.. you are right... What's the difference. They don't want to be in the Cantina dancing or grinding anymore than we want them there.


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sweatyclimber
Sat Jan 03, 2004 4:50 pm
#4

anything to get them out of the cantina would be great!



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KoraJubali
Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:59 am
#5

some suggestions:



  • Increased speed of mind buff exclusively available in Player Cantinas

  • Increased healing speed exclusively in Player Cantinas

  • Allow masters to register on the world map as masters in the cantina

  • perhaps increase time for buffs/ heals slightly in non-player cantinas

These things would bring the audience to player cantinas. the AFK game is not affected: no xp change at all. All this is meant to do is entice the audience to come to player cantinas. After that, the owner can decide who's in the cantina and who's playing/dancing there. AFK maybe, maybe not, but in a player cantina at least the choice is up to us.


I don't think the speed increases/decreases would have to be very much in order to get a combat player really ready to get a fast buff from a registered master at a (conveniently located and closer to the hunting grounds) player cantina. perhaps a 2-3 min difference in time required for the buff. Slow end being in Coronet, fast end being in Leppy's Lounge, etc.


Again, the xp would not change for us in my scenario. If we, say, put a multiplier on healing xp or music xp in player cantinas that would only draw out the AFK to player cantinas. And the people we are trying to apease here don't need xp anyway. It's all us masters that have the issue, not the grinders, so let's just find ways to bring the audience to us instead.


I think my suggestion leaves the AFK game unchanged and they won't notice if no one tells them while a trifle more combatants will come to the player cantinas to experience some masterful music.



Inviting thoughts and critiques.




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sweatyclimber
Sun Jan 04, 2004 6:03 am
#6

over all... i like the idea but do see one problem with it .... we meet many new people in the npc cantina's adn so we would miss that ... that is why i feel if we can find a way to incentivise the afk'rs to leave the npc cantinas while keeping the customers there, we'll have our best fix



Cheers,

famousFATWOOKIE
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-I support ATK people and playstyles.
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KoraJubali
Sun Jan 04, 2004 6:05 am
#7

you mean meeting other musicians? or customers?


I see your point either way.


It would take work to bring in the numbers you would see in Coronet to a local cantina.




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NJ62
Sun Jan 04, 2004 9:20 am
#8

I've posted this before - not sure where (same issues come up for the entertaining professions)- but I like the idea of the game logging you out after 30 minutes regardless of whether a macro is keeping you logged in. The auto-afk flag will snap on whether you're macroing or not, so the game knows you're not there. Granted third-party programs would be used to prevent this, or low-tech move-the-mouse mechanisms, but it seems like a good start.



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Too
Sun Jan 04, 2004 2:09 pm
#9

The easy way is as soon as somone goes AFK, the system stops any xp gained. I would agree with this for any of the professions.



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Solheim
Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:39 am
#10

What about dont go afk - I mean, dont /afk.

I personally grind afk while I'm at work, but I use to stand in one of those side rooms of the cantina, so I dont bother anyone - and I tell the group leader to kick me if someone need a room, if the group goes full.

PS. Im no holocon grinder, I want to play nice music



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Tiaga
Tue Jan 06, 2004 2:52 pm
#11






Solheim wrote:

PS. Im no holocon grinder, I want to play nice music




I hate to tell you this, but if that is your reason, you're in for a disappointment. Look at it this way, at novice entertainer, when you get musician I, you get double the number of instruments and double the music. That gives you four times the sounds you had at novice entertainer. At master musician, you get 12% more music and 25% more instruments (Discounting ones that sound the same). You will rarely get to play Virtuoso with others, leaving you to play it solo, which gets old very fast. The nalargon doesn't sound that great on half the music anyway, so you'll end up doing pretty much the same stuff you did before master.



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KoraJubali
Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:30 pm
#12

Anyone who wants to play Virtuoso can come play with me on Monday nights at 5700 5900 Naboo on Chilastra 8pm EST. about 2 hours and an audience is provided.


Look me up if you're on Chilastra.




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