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Thread: To Guys pretending to be females
Don't get me wrong, she's not a hag, she's very pleasing for me to look at. Just not a super model drop dead gorgeous toon.
None of this worked. Maybe it backfired and she looks to believable. I don't get swamped with cyber tells thank god but I've had to tell 3 separate 15 yearolds that I'm a male IRL. This isn't AIM Chat Singles! I'm not here to pick up ladies (or men). I go to the club for that or take a wall climbing class. I hear ballroom dancing has a good guy/girl ratio. E-date is a great tool, sure, and it's set up to rock and roll. Go to the matchmaker sites tho, not EverQuest--The Hook Up or SWG (Single White Guy).
You see what I mean? You told me to drop this, and...
IWas letting the issue go myself, but you keep talking about it yourself!
Really hypocritic! 
Once again The kids/immature 15-years olds you are generalizing about IS NOT ME!
I don't think I am like them, whatsoever, so if you thought I am like one of them, how pre-judgemental are you!
Again, have a sense of Social Realityis the ONLYreasonhere(Please don't make mesay it Again). CyberingNEVER IS....
JediMutantX3 wrote:
Again, have a sense of Social Realityis the ONLYreasonhere(Please don't make mesay it Again). CyberingNEVER IS....
Nobody accused you of cybering. What is being said, though, is that SWG is an UNREAL environment. It's unrealistic of you to expect that the "social reality" inside a game environment should be the same as the "social environment" outside ofit.
You obviously feel that there's no separation between the character and the real-life player. (or that there shouldnt' be.) You want to be friends (of whatever stripe) with the real people, not with their characters.
Life in a RPG ain't like that. Nobody is what they seem. Here's a question for you, JediMX3 -- Suppose you're chatting with that hot babe in the fleshwrap. She flirts, you flirt. She's warming up to you. You have a thought. /tell hotbabe Say are you really a girl? She replies, "Of course I am!". Okay, well and good. You become friends, she sends you a picture asking if you'd like to meet. Instead of looking like a well-endowed, small-waisted swimsuit model in a fleshwrap, she has glasses, greasy hair and buck teeth.
Do you accuse her of breaking "social reality" and blow her off because she didn't meet your expectations?
Social reality is all in your head. The only social reality that exists in a virtual space like an online RPG is the one created by the players. You can't reasonably expect it to mirror the state of the real world. No-one is what they seem. Most of us play BECAUSE we can be something different than what we are in real life. If it bothers you that the character dancing and/or flirting with your character might be different than the player at the keyboard then you should just not get involved in that kind of gameplay. And yes, it IS gameplay, even to most of the female players. You'll find very few who are actively looking to "meet someone". Most who enjoy that sort of social activity are doing it precisely because it's safe and unconnected to their private lives.
JediMutantX3 wrote:
Again, have a sense of Social Realityis the ONLYreasonhere(Please don't make mesay it Again). CyberingNEVER IS....
Beauty is only toon deep.
The question is not whether or not we understand that you're talking about some mythical thing called "Social Reality" but whether or not you understand that therealityof any situation can only be measured in relation to the bounds of the environment within which it's taking place. There are plenty of real-life social situations whose "Social Reality" is widely disparate based on environment. Take for instance, the Symphony vs. a Biker Bar. You cannot measure the two using the same yardstick, as the acceptable modes of behaviour in either situation are almostcompletely different.
The same goes for StarWars Galaxies. Some player's "Social Reality" does not actually jump the interface between person and computer. You, obviously, are searching for an experience which does cross that interface, on both sides of the screen. The fact of the matter is, you're not always going to get it. Accept that fact and you'll be much happier. In fact, havingmet someone through a different MMORPG, I can confidently state that if you simply allow the relationship to develop, keeping a clear head about what is IC and what is OOC, you're much more likely to find what you'relooking for. Learn to separate the two and itsoon doesn't matter who is playing what.
After all, that big, ripped, male Trandoshan Teras-Kasi Artist might just be a petite, female computer gamer wondering why shenever has found any decentguys to hang out with.
Jedi, the problem is that you brought it up in the first place. People aren't going to just drop it if they still feel that there is something to be said. They won't feel comfortable just leaving it hanging in the air.
I never refered to you in that specific post. I refered to three separate specific events that acctually happened to me. The boys all told me their ages before asking mine and before asking my RL gender. I was not assuming on those specific instances. The rest of my comments had nothing to do with you, they were refering to my own experiences in the game.
The topic is not dead, there is more to say it seems. Please let the admin do their job.
Also, how about starting a lyric swaping thread? I can't write lyrics for crap and i'd really like some nice poetry to /recite by the fire side or some original (or parody) starwarsish songs to sing in the cantina. I can only sing Clapton tunes for so long before the audience hates me and BMI comes for my first born child.
Ever played Street Fighter and chose Chun Li?
Every played Tomb Raider?
If so you were playing a female character. Yes this is slightly out of context as they are not MMORPGS, but as someone else stated:
It's the difference of being In Character and Out of Character. Character(Toon, bot, etc..)does not equal real life to most people.(If it does then I suggest visiting a Psychiatrist.)
I find it really sad that you are looking to build a relationship with awoman through a MMORPG. Personal ads, dating service, etc. thats understandable, but a MMORPG. Pathetic man.
It's about fun. Not being yourself, being in someone elses shoes, doing something you normally would not do. THAT is what Role Playingis allabout.
I'll chime in here just for fun.
I've always played a female character on all my RPGs. Why? Because it's fun. I don't get to go out much, and I'm not the best lookingperson on the planet, but here, I can make myself be someone I'm not, and can totally play someone that doesn't resemble me IRL. I can flirt all day long, or I can just be fun, or whatever.
Jedi, I think the whole reason why this thread has stuck around is because everyone is trying to understand why you find male people playing female characters to be disturbing. Is it because you find the idea of a guy making /flirt, /kiss, /flutter, and /wink at you disturbing? Is it confusing to accept advances from someone who you don't know their RL sex? Are you afraid you could develop RL feelings for their IC persona? Are you looking for an IC or a RL date?
These are things that you haven't answered, and from your posts, it doesn't even sound like you know why it bothers you. You just know it bothers you with no reason behind it. For that reason is why this thread will stick around, because people are going to want to try to rationalize your behavior, and possibly change it.
Me? I personally don't care. Play it the way you want to. I'm going to continue playing the way I want to. If I see you and /wink you and you don't like it, tell me to stop.
Oh and btw, I will not let my RL interferewithmy IC life for very personal reasons, so don't even ask.