Entertainer Archive
Thread: Opinions of an AFKer
Granted, I'll admit I dont know what it was like before hand.
But AFK was still around back then right?? So is it really an AFK issue? Or a Hologrinders issue??
AFK is not the issue here. If it was it would have been just as "bad" for you back in the begining. It is the hologrinders.
So basicly... it was a decision by the Devs that ruined it since launch for you all right? Again i saw lay blame where it should be. Not on the AFKers (not holo peeps btw) that actually WANT to be Entertainers... but rather with the devs for forcing people to grind through these professions.
If AFK was truly the issue. It would have been the issue from the start and no-one could say "the good ol days". So maybe try to remember that.
To the person that flamed me. **edit** off. This has remained civil and is a discussion. Unless you wanna add to your vocabulary, you can avoid anything else in this thread.
To those that either havent flamed or have actually given their points ala Tiaga. Thank you. I love discussions and this has been a decent one. 
Hope it stays that way.
PsychoZid dear,
I /deepbow to you! What we need in the cantinas are not less of you, but more. Take a look at the Chimaera boards sometime. See what those who are actually going to the cantinas are saying about their experience. You will see there that the current situation is not pleasing the very people that entertainers should WANT to please: The patrons.
Because the players that are interested in quality entertainment have EVERY RIGHT to expect more than BF and mind healing. They have EVERY RIGHT to expect being called out by name, be paid attention to, and to have somebody tend to these things. They have EVERY RIGHT not to be ignored, and to be served with dignity and class from a LIVE PLAYER that makes it their business to be amusing. And let me tell you, these players will give you more than enough credits to make sure that you stay there doingthe workyou love....but (and I think I am preaching to the choir here), you HAVE TO SHOW UP TO WORK.
Because quite frankly, the players that you want to service want people like you in the cantinas over people who don't care one way or the other. But they know that in order for you to do that, they have to make sure people like you don't have to go away and do missions to make the ends meet. So if you go out of your way to amuse them, they will reward you. It may take some time, but even a Teras Kasi Master doesn't make too many credits when first starting out.
Now there are people who may make fun of you, or watch AFKers for free, or even watch AFKers for free and tip them to make some kind of statement to you that what you are doing is futile and silly. These are usually the same people who dupe credits, get kicked out of guilds, get banned from the boards, and end up leaving the game in disgust because they never came to the realization that this simulation works a whole lot better when you reward those that help make the game work, rather than exploit those things that do not.
But you have to understand (and I think you do) that this profession, more than any other, takes more than simply skill animating to do it well. And trust me dear, you'll get better at it. Your audience will be very forgiving if you try, BUT YOU HAVE TO TRY. As my in-game teacher Xedra Trehof told me when I told her I wanted to be a dancer like her, you WILL be one of the great ones, as long as you work hard.
Now, theres more reasons for people to do it.. Holocrons, mules (buffbots, cantinas, etc), and people looking for more music/dances, in that order of popularity, I'd wager. Get rid of the holocrons, and there will be less people, so it will get better. But there are still the mules, which there weren't really before, so it won't be to the point it had been. Plus you'll have people that have the skills so figure they'll do a service and park themselves in an out of the way cantina (Thereby garunteeing you'll pretty much never see a live entertainer there).
PoetDancer wrote:
Why would someone who wants to be an entertainer go AFK?
I answered this earlier on why I personally use the AFK feature. I am going to try and stay away from flames so I just ask that you re-read my first post, it explains my motivations.
Tiaga wrote:
There were people who went AFK back then, yes. And it was a problem, But not as much of a problem, no. For the most part, they consisted of one of two people... Those who just wanted to master a bunch of professions for whatever reason, and those who wanted better music/dances. The former was somewhat rare before holocrons, and the latter was still live most the time, or at least some of the time. Coronet then was like Theed now, with maybe a few less AFK and a few more ATK, with some variance of population.
Now, theres more reasons for people to do it.. Holocrons, mules (buffbots, cantinas, etc), and people looking for more music/dances, in that order of popularity, I'd wager. Get rid of the holocrons, and there will be less people, so it will get better. But there are still the mules, which there weren't really before, so it won't be to the point it had been. Plus you'll have people that have the skills so figure they'll do a service and park themselves in an out of the way cantina (Thereby garunteeing you'll pretty much never see a live entertainer there).
To be blunt. I think the AFK entertainer consists of 50% Holo grinders. The rest is either a sleep or just want to master their chosen proff while they are at work, so they can be buff bots, over whatever you call em.
I still live by the rule thatI refuse to AFK entertain. If I know I will have to go soon and I am leading a group of dancers and musicans, I make an effort to pass on leadership. I have yet to dispand a group that way. When I have found the group a new leader, I take my time saying goodbye to the grouop and the next the patrons. And then I leave them as I prepare to log off.
It is still sad to when someone in my group goes LD, with out warning or because they left without a word. When I notice an LD person I give them 5 mins to get back, then I send a /tt asking if they are around, just to be sure, and if no life has occured whitin that space of time. I Kick. I have found that being ATK can often lead to making a group of 20 players and more are willing to join. But as soon as they seem to join they also seem to put on the dreaded AFK flag. In my time as groupleader I see only 5 or less players that are actively talking to the crowds of guests, even though many off the grouped entertainers er actively talking away on the groupchat.
So please people if you can talk to your group, do try and talk to the crowds to, and not the usall spam like, heal my wounds, tip me. I mean really talk to em. Even engage them in a private talk, if they so prefer.
And to the quests, dont ingore a greeting from an entertainer, it might just be a live person and not some drone.