Entertainer Archive

Thread: Entertainers dead in Coronet, news at 11.

NewJedi
Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:10 pm
#14

Droidekas? That sounds fun.
Ryyger
Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:49 pm
#15

No, that you missed my point. Namely, that a person who is playing a game, having fun with it, and generally not having any problems at all has less reason to visit the forums than a person who is having problems.



Musician of Chaos
JasonK
Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:59 pm
#16

That doesn't mean what the people who do post is not true. Be honest, do you think entertainers as a whole have ever made a decent living off just entertaining?



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Ryyger
Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:42 pm
#17

Frankly, depends on what you mean as decent. Back in the day, that was a lot less than now. And yes I do; we were rare enough to have market value.
By today's standards, we've always been underpaid. We also have fewer expences, so it mostly balances out. However, with so many luxuries becoming commonplace, that is changing.



Musician of Chaos
JasonK
Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:21 am
#18


You must be special, unlike all these people who couldn't make squat in the first 3 weeks.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=entertainer&message.id=148&highlight=earning#M148


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=entertainer&message.id=530&highlight=earning#M530


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=entertainer&message.id=1594&highlight=earning#M1594


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=entertainer&message.id=161&highlight=making+credits#M161


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=entertainer&message.id=586&highlight=making+credits#M586


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=entertainer&message.id=665&highlight=making+credits#M665


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=entertainer&message.id=719&highlight=making+credits#M719


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=entertainer&message.id=819&highlight=making+credits#M819


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=entertainer&message.id=832&highlight=making+credits#M832


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=entertainer&message.id=1132&highlight=making+credits#M1132


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=entertainer&message.id=1095&highlight=making+credits#M1095


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=entertainer&message.id=1595&highlight=making+credits#M1595


If you can look through all those and deny that making credits has always been a problem for entertainers as a whole then it's quite obvious that everything you say is based on your own dislike of AFKers as opposed to actual fact.



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Groovymarlin
Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:34 am
#19

I've always been able to make enough credits to keep dancing, just by dancing. Since dancing doesn't require thatI buy weapons, or armor, my basic expenses would be low. Just the occasional doctor buff, buffing foods/drinks, new wardrobe (the most important expense, ha ha! :smileyvery-happy, and a small house to store it in.


I will give you an example of my income when I was primarily dancing (i.e., before I started doing combat professions also). This would have been in the October/November timeframe. Yes, there were a few hologrinders, but it didn't really crank up until closer to the holidays.


So let's say I was dancing in Theed Cantina for an evening, like 5 hours. I was easily doing 3-4 mind buffs an hour. People almost all paid 10k credits for a mind buff- I didn't ask for it, they just paid it. Occasionally it wasless but 10k is a good average (because sometimes regular customers paid even more). So let's be conservative and call that 30k an hour, x 5 hours = 150k. Not too shabby. On top of that, most people who came to watch and get their wounds/fatigue healed tipped as well, usually between 2-5k. So for five hours of dancing and socializing, I was making 150k for mind buffs and I'd estimate 40k in miscellaneous tips. Almost 200k for an evening...not bad when you consider the low initial investment on my part.


Post-hologrinding deluge and afk-zombie invasion, I don't think I could makethat much anymore. Of course I'm also doing combat now and running missions, harvesting, etc. so I haven't really spent a lot of time trying. Maybe that's an experiment for next week - too busy with GF4 this weekend.





La'lepa Ofo

Master Dancer :: Master Swordswoman :: Force Sensitive
AFKing is not entertaining - support real entertainers

Darkebie
Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:05 am
#20

I don't think this is funny, I don't know how long it takes to get
to master musician, dancer while being afk but if it's your holo and
being behind your computer watching your character dance for 1 week...

Nonono
TBoTIAMAT
Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:20 am
#21

whats ur problem with holo grinders ? i want to play the game my style ... u want to play urs .... i personaly love grinding proffessions ....



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Darkebie
Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:27 am
#22

I like playing swg, but I got bored after seeing my character
dance for 1 hour, SOE made macro's for something so I'm doing
it afk now also.
I have no problem with being killed by those droids while afk
but I don't appreciate that some people laugh with that and
want them to do it more and more.. respect? I don't think
you ever had to do musician or dancer? Right?
Hydzar
Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:03 am
#23

People who are laughing are mainly entertainer.


This event sounds like a little retribution for us. Because the people ruining our profession in the game were shot down.


How may itbe possible for you to ruin our profession. Well you are offering free healing to the crowd! You completely destroyed the profession. socialisation and image.


That's up to you if you want to play "as you like". Just one thing when i socialise in a cantina , talking with people, i don't interfere with your vision of the game. When u grind in cantina and used boring macros offering a free healing or a free buff through your macros, you are spoiling our vision of the game.


So let's stop about vision, and just consider RESPECT.


RESPECT that's all the non AFK entertainers desire. Respect from other players, Respect for the profession itself, Respect from the devs.



Ankh'Su'Namun
Master Entertainer/Musicien/Image Designer/Dancer 4043
MajorCurt
Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:41 am
#24

Agreed. I play music because it's fun, not to hologrind. Having people who sit there and grind while AFK clutters up the room us real entertainers have, so that means all people comming to get healed will listen/watch one of the 20 AFK'ers, while us real musicians/dancers have to sit silently and not talk.



One of the best pastimes I remember was before Holocrons and you could go into a cantina and flirt with the dancers. Even though it was old, it was at least a sense of Roleplaying within the game. Now you walk into a cantina and you see dancing corpses. Not fun. Entertainers are supposed to do just that, entertain. Not very entertaining when there's no interaction between patron and host.





-Psylion Highwind (Chilastra)

Master Musician
Master Dancer
Master Entertainer
Tralmek
Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:01 pm
#25

*cheers*


Oh, yes! This sounds great, I only wish there were some screenshots. This goes hand-in-hand with my idea of allowing entertainers to earn their way into Jabba's, but if they're in there and macrotaining instead of entertaining they get a visit to the rancor...It seems that the devs may finally be giving the entertaining professions a little bit of love? We'll see!


-Lilo






Feeling no connection with the Force since 2003
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JohnMarble
Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:43 pm
#26

So why did Stormtroopers stop going in Cantinas?Somebody told me the AFKers complained?
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