Entertainer Archive
Thread: A message to hologrinders
joshkrieg wrote:
I am starting to see that some of the entertainers a really nasty at heart and maybe that is why people prefer to watch the afk entertainers. Learn to be nice and you will not have to worry about the afk'ers. Just a thought. Sheesh to get them out of the cantina just group with a afk'er and help them why don't you? I have an entertainer on another server and I let him sit afk long hours because I can and no one ever berates me because I choose to afk at times. In fact I almost always get invites to groups while afk and my macro happily excepts the invite. Please calm down they will be out of the entertainment industry as quick as they can trust me.
Woo hoo! I love hearing advice from someone who doesn't know the profession. It's much better than the jokes people pass around at work.
The AFKers are what make some Entertainers nasty. Do you think that just because we lash out at inconsiderate jerks (and yes, someone who macros in a way that they bump into other dancers or trivialize the Mind wounds on advanced planets are inconsiderate) that we are mean and nasty to the people who matter? The people who appreciate our work? I assure you that while I am mean to the people who blunder in and seem to feel that they are entitled to whatever they want, I am very sweet to the patron.
In order to achieve your precious Jedi, you have to master certain professions. And one such profession could very likely be an Entertainer. While you have to master this profession, you don't have to be a jerk about it. If you perform AFK in a public place, you are sending a message that you do not care enough about SWG to play the game and that you do not care about the feelings of others. Fine. If you want to send that message, there you have it. But don't act like a jerk and demand that we smile politely and accept it.
If you are told to follow the Entertainer path in order to open your Force Sensitive slot where you had no desire to try this profession, you have two choices:
A. You can sigh and submit to the Holocron in a peaceful and nonintrusive way, asking for help where necessary.
B. You can intrude on the legitimate Entertainers and demand help.
I have a lot of respect for the people in A. I will help them as much as possible. I'll be glad to teach them. I'll hunt down a Combat Medic friend for these people. I will not help B. I will not group with B. I will not buy items from B. An Entertainer in B will be just as jerky as an Artisan in B and a Marksman in B. These types of people intrude on someone else's hunting ground and kill all of his prey just because he can. These people shouldn't even bother playing a multiplayer game.
So yeah, we get defensive. I suppose you don't mind if someone steps through your front door and tracks dog poop all over your carpet?
*grin* Poke me sometime and I'll let you borrow the house crafting tool (Yes, I keep one in the bag behind the bar) for a little extra grinding power.
I hadn't really payed attention to how much xp. I figured it was a bit, but between novice musician and technique III, the numbers aren't all that much better than novice entertainer. It's when you get to the nalargon that things really pay off. A little over 1000 nalargons gets you the entire knowledge line (1362 to be precise). Assuming 10 seconds per combine (Not unreasonable with some of the macros out there, perhaps even on the long side) that's a mere 3 hours of grinding. I've never seen that xp rate in dancing, and I've danced for a crowd of 50-100 people in a group of 10. I did break 300xp per flourish, and MIGHT have been able to break 400 if I'd done my highest dance... But that is an awful lot of people's time to be using if you want to arrange something like that.
It's expensive, but money is not an object for most people that are the type to grind through professions like that. It's about the sameamount thata holocron used to go for, after all.
Velvet-dancer wrote:
Oh, and thanks for the info about the instrument crafting Tiaga. Jalis might have to craft a few fanfars, I'm growing tired of waiting for Ballad (my favorite!)
Heh, I decided to pick up Music with another character. I hate Star Wars 1, so I just crafted a bunch of slitherhorns and sold them for 50 credits apiece. I just shot my way up to Rock before I put an instrument to my mouth.
It's just good advice to avoid the awkward newbie stage. *grin*
Kuildeous wrote:
Heh, I decided to pick up Music with another character. I hate Star Wars 1, so I just crafted a bunch of slitherhorns and sold them for 50 credits apiece. I just shot my way up to Rock before I put an instrument to my mouth.
It's just good advice to avoid the awkward newbie stage. *grin*
Funny... I did the opposite last night.. I pulled my newbie clothes out of the closet, dusted them off and put them on, grabbed a slitherhorn, and started playing starwars1 without flourishing, occasionally switching to jazz or ceremonial or waltz and flourishing a few timesbefore switching back to starwars1 without flourishing.
I was terribly amused by it, but I don't think anyone else got it. 
But that doesn't matter, because at least I was amused. 
Though I was upset when I discovered you can't insure newbie clothes. I found this out after I died. My newbie clothes are no longer pristine.
Nah, I like performing. Go figure!
C
Felsspat wrote:
Wouldn't that be mind desease instead of mind poison ? or does poison give xp too ?
You know, I always get that mixxed up. Yes, mind disease. I don't know if I've ever said it right the first time without having to be corrected.
spending several hundred thousand resources on a profession in which XP can be attained easily with no resources so that you keep the afk'ers out is quite mean spirited.
Actually I know a lot of people who would pay millions to shorten their time as entertainer. After all, you all claim it's sooooo bad you can't stand it at the keys. Several hundred thousand resources of grinding quality won't even cost you a million if you have contacts. But if you don't have entertainer friends, and don't have miner friends, then I guess you'd want to take the cheaper route. If you hate entertaining and have some money to spend ( and I really don't see how you could be so poor you couldn't afford the resources... if you can't then you will be still faster with the above method and griding missions for 3 days. But then again, thats being at the keys and actively playing ) then the solution of grinding it out is really the fastest way.
If you think that pointing out an alternative, even faster solution to a problem you seem to face is nasty, then you are in for a very hard live full of either unsolved problems or nasty people.
No worries - the professional grinder crafts in practice mode for the extra xp. No item is output, no damage done to your business 
I am currently grinding through Entertainer trying to unlock my slot, and I agree with most of Tiaga's post. I grind the music and dance xp in the privacy of my own home. The only problem with the gathering of friends and such is that it gets boring, not just for you; but for them as well. I prefer the interaction with other players in the cantina. And I only go to the cantina for Entertainment Healing XP, and when I do; I don't go AFK. While I am a Smuggler, I also want to learn about the professions I grind through, not just learn the profession and move on. And you can't learn about a profession if you do things the fast way.