Entertainer Archive
Thread: Top 10 Issues polling! (26-07-2005)
This is a list of Entertainer Top Issues revamped to reflect changes made in Publish 20. If I'm missing an issue,by all means,add it to the list.
Please arrangeyour issuesin their order of importance to you. 
Thanks!
Entertainer Top Issues
- Entertainer mission pay should scale with skill level, and the current base should remain for Novice Entertainers. These also could use a redesign as they are rather uninteresting. Also, all of the missions improperly have "Dancer" in the description of the mission. The missions also all picture a Nalargon. This makes Entertainer missions very confusing, especially for newcomers.
- The Force Sensitive bonus should be Inspiration Buffs. (Can someone confirm that FS bonuses have been changed from Mind Wounds to Inspirations)
- Entertainers want the ability to disable our "Your perform a flourish" and "Your band performs a flourish" spam. A /command could be added to toggle the spam so that no UI changes would be necessary.
- Master Entertainers are able to edit special fireworks package options. We would like this documented in our skill box, and some would like if it was moved to Novice Entertainer and enabled for mass production in some way.
- Only five Entertainer/Musician instruments have unique sounds. Please give the other five instruments unique sounds.
- Make /denyservice a permanent and visible list like /addignore instead of having it reset at server restart. Some have suggested making the /denyservice and /addignore lists identical, although some would not like this.
- The Master Entertainer skill box provides nothing for IDs and little for Dancers.
- A special new ME-only holo-emote or other currently available holo-emotes with the exception of the "All" option.
- Ability to place a PC theater.
- Ability to /register
- Certification for playback and effects droids
- There are no customization options for Sullustan males, or for Wookiees and Mon Cals of both genders, until eye color at ID 2. Ithorians have no eye color customization which means that until Novice ID they have no change that grant 300 xp, but rather only have changes which grant 100 xp. All other species can take advantage of the 300 xp with eye color at ID 2.
- Unattended gameplay.
- With the EH changes, our XP has been quite wonky. We want to know what the devs intend for our XP gain to be and for it to remain steady.
- Entertainers have a very difficult time getting profession-appropriate loot since most of it is obtained via combat.
- If Entertainers' primary means of economic advancement is to remain in the hands of non-Entertainers, we would like some form of secure payment.
- Entertainers want profession-specific clothing.
- Droids should be able to be grouped in space.
- Likethe NPC Actor Player Event Perks, Entertainers would like to be able to hire NPC Entertainers to perform with (but not provide any mechanic advantage - only aesthetic).
- Particle Effect Entertainer Props are not visible in the following situations:
- While crafting
- In the Player Inventory
- In the Player Datapad
- In the /examine window
- Entertainers' only "hook" to get non-Entertainers into the cantinas is the Inspiration. We would like more Inspirationsaddedwhich cannot be applied through the use of AFK macros.
- Entertainers' only "hook" to get non-Entertainers into the cantinas is the Inspiration. We would like to see the addition of minigames in order to increase the population of cantinas again.
- Many players are unable to watch or listen to Entertainers. When they attempt to do so, they receive the message "You are too far away to watch/listen to that."
Entertainer Elite Issues
- Omni Box / Nalargon can be moved by any player. Entertainers playing one of these are often harassed by someone moving their instrument. Please disallow everyone but the owner and people in one's group from doing this. Group mates should be allowed to, because this may be necessary to allow the feature of up to four Entertainers to play the Nalargon at once (which already exists).
- Disallow Entertainers from /register in a PC medical center and also disallow Medics from /register in a PC cantina. (Can I get a confirmation that this bug still exists)
- It is still difficult to locate Entertainers of the desired skill level; one idea is to have a different color icon on the planetary map listing for when an Elite Master /register than when a Novice Entertainer /register.
- Various player owned theater bugs.
- Theater Manager Quest: On the advertisement missions, sometimes the 10th / 20th / 30th person to listen to you gets the system message instead of you... he/she aslo gets the “You have reached rank one.” message. When this happens, the Theater Manager still allows the Entertainer to progress, but it is extremely confusing to experience this bug (even if one knows of its existence).
Message Edited by Tralmek on 07-26-200507:35 PM
Message Edited by Tralmek on 07-28-2005 09:16 AM
-Currently, music-playing Entertainers have nothing new to offer to match the dancers' props. While the novice-level props available to musicians in the Entertainer tree are nice, some enticing reason beyond affinity for sound is necessary to match the props' tip-drawing power. Suggestions I have are: Giving Dual Prop Wielding to Novice Musician as well as Dancer (Musicians using the furniture-type instruments would benefit from this greatly), Effect Pedals for Instruments (here is a variety of examples), or the ability to have our music be ambient. All players are able to see the dances of dancers without /watching, why should people not be able to hear our music unless they click us?
-Access to content that makes sense for Entertainers is lacking. Force sensitivity is nigh-impossible without combat (though preservation of life, creation, and appreciation of others is something Entertainers are supposed to be chief in), as is Jabba's Palace. Furthermore, the only FS bonus that can help Entertainers is impossible for us to do as Entertainers.
-The Leotard reward from Jabba's Themepark was promised by Thunderheart to have a male counterpart on its way over a year ago. A progress report would be appreciated.
Entertainer Top Issues
- Entertainer mission pay should scale with skill level, and the current base should remain for Novice Entertainers. These also could use a redesign as they are rather uninteresting. Also, all of the missions improperly have "Dancer" in the description of the mission. The missions also all picture a Nalargon. This makes Entertainer missions very confusing, especially for newcomers.
It's also confusing to just have the waypoint outside the building since most new players only know about waypoints from delivery or destroy missions.
- The Force Sensitive bonus should be Inspiration Buffs. (Can someone confirm that FS bonuses have been changed from Mind Wounds to Inspirations)
Does this also still require a medic skill? We aren't healers any more so either we can be force sensitive without healing or we can't. They can't have it both ways. If I have to be a healer to be FS then I'm a healer and I want a healing function as a dancer. If I'm not a healer then I should be able to do an entertainer quest in the village rather than a "cure the plague" quest.
- Unattended gameplay.
This is item2 on my list.
- Entertainers' only "hook" to get non-Entertainers into the cantinas is the Inspiration. We would like more Inspirationsaddedwhich cannot be applied through the use of AFK macros.
This is item3 on my list. In addition they need to be connected to skill level in a some way other than time involved to apply.
- Many players are unable to watch or listen to Entertainers. When they attempt to do so, they receive the message "You are too far away to watch/listen to that."
This is item 1 on my list.
Entertainer Elite Issues
- Omni Box / Nalargon can be moved by any player. Entertainers playing one of these are often harassed by someone moving their instrument. Please disallow everyone but the owner and people in one's group from doing this. Group mates should be allowed to, because this may be necessary to allow the feature of up to four Entertainers to play the Nalargon at once (which already exists).
Can these be made so that they don't have to be kept targeted by the musician?
- What's going to be provided in the way of conversion compensation for the mind enhancing attachments that some performers paid millions of dollars to obtain?
1. Entertainers have a very difficult time getting profession-appropriate loot since most of it is obtained via combat. (We need safe ways to earn it in cities as Entertainers)
2. Entertainer mission pay should scale with skill level, and the current base should remain for Novice Entertainers. These also could use a redesign as they are rather uninteresting. Also, all of the missions improperly have "Dancer" in the description of the mission. The missions also all picture a Nalargon. This makes Entertainer missions very confusing, especially for newcomers.
3. Entertainers want profession-specific clothing.
4. Make /denyservice a permanent and visible list like /addignore instead of having it reset at server restart. Some have suggested making the /denyservice and /addignore lists identical, although some would not like this.
5. The Master Entertainer skill box provides nothing for IDs and little for Dancers.
- A special new ME-only holo-emote or other currently available holo-emotes with the exception of the "All" option.
- Ability to place a PC theater.
- Ability to /register
- Certification for playback and effects droids
6. If Entertainers' primary means of economic advancement is to remain in the hands of non-Entertainers, we would like some form of secure payment. (UI like ID)
7. Likethe NPC Actor Player Event Perks, Entertainers would like to be able to hire NPC Entertainers to perform with (but not provide any mechanic advantage - only aesthetic).
8. There are no customization options for Sullustan males, or for Wookiees and Mon Cals of both genders, until eye color at ID 2. Ithorians have no eye color customization which means that until Novice ID they have no change that grant 300 xp, but rather only have changes which grant 100 xp. All other species can take advantage of the 300 xp with eye color at ID 2.
9. Only five Entertainer/Musician instruments have unique sounds. Please give the other five instruments unique sounds.
10. Master Entertainers are able to edit special fireworks package options. We would like this documented in our skill box, and some would like if it was moved to Novice Entertainer and enabled for mass production in some way.
11.Entertainercookies - we need them
1. We need more than the basic inspiration buffs now available. The "better" system the devs claimed was "in the works" when they removed BF needs to be put in, ASAP. Currently we have almost no in-game function and cantinas serve very little purpose.
2. See #1.
3. See #1.
4. See #1.
5. See #1.
6. See #1.
7. See #1.
8. See #1.
9. See #1.
10. See #1.
Have I made my point? I hope so.
C
Well, here's my top 10 issues:
1. Entertainers' only "hook" to get non-Entertainers into the cantinas is the Inspiration. We would like more Inspirationsaddedwhich cannot be applied through the use of AFK macros.
- A special new ME-only holo-emote or other currently available holo-emotes with the exception of the "All" option.
- Ability to place a PC theater.
- Ability to /register
- Certification for playback and effects droids
10. Entertainers want the ability to disable our "Your perform a flourish" and "Your band performs a flourish" spam. A /command could be added to toggle the spam so that no UI changes would be necessary.
3.) ID stuff for Sullustans, Wookies, and Mon Calamari.
Message Edited by Jagii on 07-31-2005 12:50 PM
Ok, maybe I’m bitter but as far as I’m concerned there is one and ONLY one “Issue” with entertainers now, we no longer have a purpose in the game!!!!
How about we list our top 3 issues as follows:
1. Without BF we have no purpose in the game, put BF back in!!
2. Without BF we have no purpose in the game, put BF back in!!
3. Without BF we have no purpose in the game, put BF back in!!
I’m sorry to put this in but any other “Issue” entertainers has is moot if we don’t have anyone to entertain for. Listing anything else just sends the message that we have accepted our fate and are ok with it.
Well I'm not!!!
Tralmek wrote:
(Can someone confirm that FS bonuses have been changed from Mind Wounds to Inspirations) Heightened Senses Healing has +5 Dancing Enhancement and Musical Enhancement in each box.
Disallow Entertainers from /register in a PC medical center and also disallow Medics from /register in a PC cantina. (Can I get a confirmation that this bug still exists) I am able to activate player city Medical Centers and City Halls using /register.
- Give entertainers a mechanical, useful fuction that other players are actually interested in interacting with entertainers to obtain. One that can only be granted via a UI window similar to Image Design, so that it can't be macroed. With varying levels so that an Entertainer with more skill can actually do something a Novice Entertainer can't.
- "Too far away" bug. Fix it already.
- Make attaining Master Entertainer of value to Image Designers and Dancers.
- Give Entertainers something to do other than role-play. That can be done with a character of any profession. Something worth the skill points the profession(s) cost(s).
- Remove the XP cost for using our only profession-specific quest rewards: learning Western or Theatrical.
- FixPlayer City Theaters.
- Adjust experience granted for Western, Funk, Starwars4 and Swing to scale with instrument played, with a minimum level based on the skill box where the song is gained, as the original songs do.
- Make /denyservice work from the Ignore List.
- Fix Entertainer gig missions. Have them scale based on Entertainer skill, have Musician missions display as such, put a dance-oriented icon in Dancer mission details, have something for Image Designers to do as Image Designers. And have the mission payout NOT get split among all group members, but pay out the mission reward displayed on the mission to all members of the group...just like combat missions.
- Give instruments with duplicate sounds unique ones.
- Move Eye Color to the Novice Entertainer box so that any race can perform Image Design upon themselves at the outset.
- Give Entertainers of all three varieties some part to play in the GCW as Entertainers.
- Require the relevant Entertainer/Musician skill to equip an instrument as is the case for dancer props and weapons. (Someone should have to be a Master Entertainer to even equip a Mandoviol.)
I agree with the previous post! Taking out battle fatigue basically makes us useless and even more decreases our ability to makecredits in the game by entertaining ...other than doing missions. I have 3 other toons on the server that are combat and they simply do not waste the time to frequent an entertainer since there isno battle fatigue. They have mastered their professions and do not need additional XP or are Jedi capped on XP with nothing more to gain (another issue).
Also, am I alone in this....the cover charge was a very STUPID idea considering i'm surrounded by novice entertainers who can apply EXACTLY THE SAME INSPIRATION in an extended amount of time. And, they are happy to advertise for FREE, WHY PAY...just to get the xp. I have a master musician who is generally AFK which performs band flourishes with recorded accompaniment from my droid...and even then if I use COVERCHARGE...IT ONLY GENERATES AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF FLAMING HATE MAILAND TELLS that saywhy should I pay you looser when I can get theinspiration from the AFK person next to you for free.I'm sure I will be flamed here by people who say, "you shouldn't have an afk entertainer." But lets get real, a lot of entertainers are afk while they play their other toons as these were created to support thier main characters. I'm curious, does SOE want us to cancel all our additional entertainer accounts that we purchased as support characters? Frankly, I have two entertainer accounts that I occasionally play live and also leave AFK while I play my other characters (several computers in the house, more money for SOE)....but at the present state, I am considering that these two accounts are becoming quite useless to me. They generate little credits, have little usefulness and using /covercharge does nothing more than generate abuse from other players who feel they should get all inspirations for free.
Once again, the entertainer business is a profession that makes it difficult to earn credits and all the other perks of the game...so, we must create other characters and go AFK or log them outto play those toons that afford the other benefits of the game.