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The_Serpent98
Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:35 am
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I bought a droid with all the crafting stations installed into it, tho what is the rating on the station you know since a weapon, droid, general crafting station can have a +40 more rating on it or less i was wondering if it goes for the ones installed in the droid.
Its an R2 Adv model droid.
TS98
Drashk
Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:39 am
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Standard Cut and Paste Reply from DE guide 101
Droid Crafting Station Module
- Food/Chemical
- Structure/Furniture
- Clothing/Armor
- Weapon/Droid/General
These crafting stations give you the ability to roam around anywhere and craft all of your products. They are not rated, like the Architect variety, however many tests have been made that make many feel that they can be as successful as a 30 Function rating Private Station.
Straker_Atrella
Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:26 pm
#3
Yea what Gavoot said pretty much. Basically the droid just lets you access all your schematics, but doesn't give any type of bonus.
Drashk
Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:27 pm
#4
Thing is, if you've ever done any major testing with the droid and with a high end crafting station, you will notice little to no difference in the two. Just because the Droid Crafting Stations were offically listed as having a 0 rating does not mean that the 44.99 rated Architect station is any better.
Straker_Atrella wrote:
Basically the droid just lets you access all your schematics, but doesn't give any type of bonus.
Gavvot
Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:36 pm
#5
I didn't made extensive testing, but I think that the rate on station is more important when your skills are low, and once you hit master, the rate doesn't matter much.
I'm pretty sure like Drashk said, that at master of a profession the difference between a droid, a good crafting station and a bad crafting station is not really noticable.
The rate of the tool on the other side, does seem to matter alot, even at master.
I'm pretty sure like Drashk said, that at master of a profession the difference between a droid, a good crafting station and a bad crafting station is not really noticable.
The rate of the tool on the other side, does seem to matter alot, even at master.
Straker_Atrella
Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:39 pm
#6
So you are saying thatthere is nodifference between a -6 crafting station and a 44 rated crafting station?
I 100% disagree. For about 2 months I was using a 30 rated crafting station, and probably blew up 1 out of 5 droids. I moved up to a a 44 and now maybe blow up 1 every 15.
I also know that I fail a lot more if I use my droid then my house crafting station. Also I can hit 39 Detonation Droids using my Crafting station, but can only hit 38 using my droid.
Plus the Devs came right out and said it.
Gavvot
Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:42 pm
#7
They also said that the tool matter much more than the crafting station.
I'm just giving my feeling here.
Between my 15 crafting station, my 44 crafting station and my droid, I don't see much of a difference on success/fail.
I'm just giving my feeling here.
Between my 15 crafting station, my 44 crafting station and my droid, I don't see much of a difference on success/fail.
Drashk
Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:36 pm
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Straker_Atrella wrote:
So you are saying thatthere is nodifference between a -6 crafting station and a 44 rated crafting station?
Nope, didn't say anything about negative rated stations, since they do effect success/failure rates.
I 100% disagree. For about 2 months I was using a 30 rated crafting station, and probably blew up 1 out of 5 droids. I moved up to a a 44 and now maybe blow up 1 every 15.
I'm going to guess that you also were using different resources, subcomponents, and maybe SEA bonuses between the different time frames as well
I also know that I fail a lot more if I use my droid then my house crafting station. Also I can hit 39 Detonation Droids using my Crafting station, but can only hit 38 using my droid.
Not exactly sure how you are accomplishing this one, since the maximum resource values do not change any. If you get a 89% success with a droid crafting station and a 89% success with a house crafting station, you will end up with the exact same rating. Nothing changes this, with the exception of the Assembly Food, which does effect maximum resource valuse in some way???
Plus the Devs came right out and said it.
Gotta call you on this one, since we have seen that time and time again, what is said by one person isn't always what is the correct answer.
TH stated "As far as the droid itself, it has a neutral relationship (does not effect) on the crafting process."
This statement confirms what I have been suggesting all along, that droid crafting station code was never changed when the Private crafting station code was changed. My above statement about 0 rating was before I did my research on the 'official' answer that was given back in April.
I have always done a large portion of my crafting, using my droid, but I have run dozens of test using 34 - 42 rated crafting stations. I have yet to prove conclusively that my droid is any worse, or better, then a high end crafting station. There are also a good number of old school crafters who will stand by their droid any day, over a Private station, but that just may be stubborness. 
Message Edited by Drashk on 08-18-2004 03:36 PM
Straker_Atrella
Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:08 pm
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So negative valued crafting stations do effect things, but there is no difference between a 30 rated and a 44? Well I can't prove or disprove it myself, it just doesn't feel right. From my crafting experiance.
I do know that I fail more using my droid.
As far as my detonation modules go, using my droid, or using my crafting station, all the modules turn out with a 9 value, and the same %. Yet I found out the hard way when I did a run of 1000 with a schematic made in my droid that they are not the same. With the modules made from the Droid, I ended up with 38 not 39, I didn't get that round up.
Yet with modules made from my crafting station, they always round up to 39.
Unfortunatly, I burned 80k of my good Tolium not knowing my 9 rated modules were not "as" good.
I WAS able to replicate it, and did verify it wasmy droid.
What I suspect is that crafting stations, skill tapes, and foods play a very very very subtle role in crafting. A role that you will only see a difference with resources that are on a fine edge of going up a level. This is why those dang super nice Harv modules are so hard to reproduce.
Do I craft at my droid? Yes.
Do I craft good stuff there? Yes.
Do I make schematics using high quality resources where quality matters using my droid? Never.
LonelyGhost
Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:42 pm
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Just curious, but was the % you experimented the Det modules to the same when using the droid and the Crafting station? Reworded - Was the % you experimented on the module when using the Station the same as what you emperimeted using the droid? I suspect it was the same, but even 1 or 2% points in the experimentation could knock down your rounding. Bah! I wish this didnt bug me!
Gavvot
Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:39 am
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Official answer from the dev on that question is that crafting module on droids is like a private crafting station with a rate of 0.
More specifically, that the rate on architect private crafting station influance you chance of success fail, and that droid module don't.
More specifically, that the rate on architect private crafting station influance you chance of success fail, and that droid module don't.
Zorkk
Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:26 pm
#13
hmm.. you all are going to think me crazy, but ohwell.. I"m convinced that someday's are better than other's for crafting. Most mondays i try not to craft anything at all, since i get crit fail, after crit fail, with my droid, or with my station. Next day, i'm whipping off 20 droids, and not 1 crit fail! explain that one to me! 
I use my droid almost exclusively, tho I to did notice that det module difference that someone was pointing out... thankfully I only made 150 of the '38' power ones (they go down to 54 in an r3 
), so now adays I make all schems at my station.
), so now adays I make all schems at my station.Overall tho, i really don't worry about it... the difference between a 101 harveting droid, and a 103 harvesting droid is miniscule. Det droids it matters a bit more, but certainly not much... 38 power, as opposed to 39 power is going to be what? 20 pts? 50pts dmg difference?
Z
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