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Last night I was crafting and got a critical failure which took it down to 0%. I received two amazing success after that. I had about 7 points left after the critical failure. It still stayed at 0%. I think I was making a droid storage unit.

Has anyone else experienced this. This may have not been totally fixed.

Alen Vondor
Radiant

Master Artisan
Master Droid Engineer

In my experience, once a line/stat hits 0%, it stays that way.


I tend to think they should remove "0" as a possibility and just make "1%" the new crit. fail bottom number.



/bow

Respectfully,

Some time ago, it was stated that this was by design. As soon as you hit 0%, you stay there. What they should do is not allow you to try and experiment on something that is 0%.

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Gavvot wrote:
When you hit 0% after a critical fail, it'll always stay at 0%, and if you experiment, it'll always do an amazing success, but won't raise at all.

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Someone explained this in mathematical terms a while back although I can't remember the exact formula right now. It made sense though, and it sounded like this is a bug.

So what was the "Fixed a 0% crafting attribute bug" for?

I thought that this fix was supposed to stop the problem of 0% critical failures.

What did they actually fix then?

Alen Vondor
Radiant

Master Artisan
Master Droid Engineer

If I'm not mistaken, it was to fix some things that were always showing as 0% (and couldn't be experimented).


This is different, however, than what happens if/when you actually hit 0% during experimentation.

When you hit 0% after a critical fail, it'll always stay at 0%, and if you experiment, it'll always do an amazing success, but won't raise at all.

However, if, when you start crafting, one of the option is at 0%, you may have 1 point to put in to experiment, and it will raise if it's a success, but don't expect more than 5% after that.

That's what I noticed.

On another side, if the 0% bug fix was to solve the stat that were always at 0% when starting crafting, I would be very interested in what those things influence.

Another think I noticed with experiment : on combat module, and detonation module, Effectiveness alter the mechanism quality and the rating of the module, and sometimes, when you have a success, one of the stat goes up and the other goes down. Same thing can happen with a fail.

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Gorantoth wrote:
It's because the experimentation is percentage based. And with the math using multiplication to determine the change in value, when you multiply 0 by anything... you still have 0.

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I thought that is what was happening. This should be a real easy fix. When they go to calculate, they check to make sure the current % is above 0. If it isn't then multiply by 1% or something above 0.

Personally I think we should consider this a bug and put it on the list if it isn't already.

Thanks,

Alen Vondor
Radiant

Master Artisan
Master Droid Engineer

It's because the experimentation is percentage based. And with the math using multiplication to determine the change in value, when you multiply 0 by anything... you still have 0.

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Gavvot wrote:
On another side, if the 0% bug fix was to solve the stat that were always at 0% when starting crafting, I would be very interested in what those things influence.

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