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Thread: The Method Behind the Madness That is Known as the Adv R3 Chassis, any veteran player PLEASE RES

Malitevv
Fri May 07, 2004 1:04 pm
#1

exactly. i do 249 advanced droid brains at a time. that doesn't require baby sitting the factory. it takes a whole day or more for a run of 249 brains to finish. set it up before you log off for the evening, come to get the brains the next time you log in.



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Tycalibur
Fri May 07, 2004 1:05 pm
#2

you shouldn't be needing to make them in crates of 5, if you make 1000 GP's and 1000 MM's you get 249 brains in one factory run. You can then turn around and make 123 R3's (assuming you've got the rest of the parts already made). The requirement of 2 identicle parts just means they have to come from the same run (same serial number), not necessarily the same crate.

Okay, then this is a matter of not running my factory correctly. I thought, when you make a schematic for an adv r3 brain that the schematic used had to be from the EXACT TWO crates you used, and none of the other crates.


Please explain, I'm just doing this wrong, then.





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Malitevv
Fri May 07, 2004 1:07 pm
#3

"from the same factory crate" means only that the serial number of the items needs to be the same. they don't have to be from the same factory crate, but only from the same factory run.



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Malitevv
Fri May 07, 2004 1:10 pm
#4

to be more precise:


"from the same factory crate" means "created by the same manufacturing schematic". you can turn the factory off when you are halfway done, move the schematic and resources to a different factory and start it up again. and the items produced by both factories will have the same serial number and will therefor be usable interchangeably in any item that requires the components to be from the same factory crate.



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TheRealTK421
Fri May 07, 2004 2:46 pm
#5






Tycalibur wrote:


Okay, I sent an e-mail to Doughbacca.


Who? Oh...


Am I missing something here? Was the Adv R3 intended to be this big of a pain?


No...you're not missing anything. This is supposed to be about the single hardest droid to make, especially in quantity. The BLL being the other one (so much so, I don't even see these much).




My answer really is: Make more Adv. Droid Brains at a time.

Yes, it will take longer...but you'll be a happier DE in the end, I assure you.


Let me know if you get into an emergency and need some of these crated. I'll be happy to help out.


/bow

Respectfully,






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AudioOrgana
Fri May 07, 2004 9:47 pm
#6






Malitevv wrote:

exactly. i do 249 advanced droid brains at a time. that doesn't require baby sitting the factory. it takes a whole day or more for a run of 249 brains to finish. set it up before you log off for the evening, come to get the brains the next time you log in.







This is exactly what I do.


If you are going to do the full monty and make the chassis in a factory, don't forget it's easier than you think : the only item you need to make multiple serial numbers for is the advanced droid brains. The other parts can be run in large numbers.


To make a run of 245ish R3 droids you just need to (with two factories in this example):



  1. Run two sets of 1K EMM's (Total of 2k)

  2. Run two sets of 1K EGP's (Total of 2k)

  3. Make two seperateruns of 249 ADB's (for a total of 498 - with two sets of serial numbers)

  4. Run off the other parts in quantities of 250 (doesn't take long to knock the others out - don't forget about the control units in the AdvMotives)

  5. Dump it all into one factory (I like this part ). Make two schematics - one with one set of ADB's, one with the other.

Run the first, change schematic, repeat, and you have about 245 R3 Adv frames. Enough to last even me a while.


I'd add to this recomendation that I think some people need to reevaluate how they think about factories. You can do the setps above in a couple of days if you have 5-6 factories working on it. To many people, this may seem like a lot - but think about factories as harvesters and not houses. You don't have to keep your factories up all the time. If you wanna do a load of R3 frames, then use lots you'd normally use for harvesters on factories. Or beg/borrow/steal a couple of lots just to do the run.


Factories are a great investment - and you can always resell them if you redeed. Paying the 3K redeed fee when you are done is worth it if you attempt to make this many R3's or other intensive project. I keep a half-dozen factories around and put them up/take them down as needed.


AO

Tycalibur
Sat May 08, 2004 12:44 am
#7

Okay, I sent an e-mail to Doughbacca. I've been an MDE since January, and this is the method I've been using to make the Adv R3 chassis for production.


We all know the ONE component that makes the R3 difficult: 2 identical advanced droid brains from afactory crate.


I make crates of 25 GP Modules and 25 Electronic Modules. I turn around and pull one crate of each, then make the schematic for the advanced droid brain, then reload the Modules (now at 21 in each crate due to the consumption used to make the schematic) into my factory, and that yields a crate of 5 advanced droid brains. I repeat this process until I am out of crates of elec and GP modules. I useeach crate to make two R3 chassis, and use the leftover brain for Adv R2 units so there is no waste involved.


Am I missing something here? Was the Adv R3 intended to be this big of a pain? Am I making this harder for myself than it has to be? Is there a way to yield a higher count than 25 GP/Elec Modules per crate? If someone has a faster method of doing this, I'm more than open and willing to listen.


I am just using a standard equipment factory.


Note: Please try not to turn this into a griping thread, I just want to know if there is any other way, or what method you use.


Best Regards,


Attichi'tuk

Master DE, Master Artisan, Master WS -- Ahazi Server



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Malitevv
Sat May 08, 2004 12:47 am
#8

that is the method, but it isn't so bad. you can do 249 advanced droid brains each time. and those should last you a while and you shouldn't need to go through the process that often.



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Tycalibur
Sat May 08, 2004 12:52 am
#9

Okay.....I was just trying to find a way to not have to sit there and baby the factory while I produce the adv droid brains. The crates of 5 usually finish within 10 minutes (maybe 5, I ought to clock it and see). Creating a new schematic each time is a bit ....... perturbing.


And I said not to make this into a griping thread. LOL


*points to self*<====== HYPOCRITE!



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Tycalibur Haruhara -- MCH/MBH
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Jenden
Sat May 08, 2004 12:56 am
#10






Tycalibur wrote:

Okay.....I was just trying to find a way to not have to sit there and baby the factory while I produce the adv droid brains. The crates of 5 usually finish within 10 minutes (maybe 5, I ought to clock it and see). Creating a new schematic each time is a bit ....... perturbing.


And I said not to make this into a griping thread. LOL


*points to self*<====== HYPOCRITE!






you shouldn't be needing to make them in crates of 5, if you make 1000 GP's and 1000 MM's you get 249 brains in one factory run. You can then turn around and make 123 R3's (assuming you've got the rest of the parts already made). The requirement of 2 identicle parts just means they have to come from the same run (same serial number), not necessarily the same crate.



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secretbuyer
Sat May 08, 2004 1:39 am
#11






Tycalibur wrote:

Okay, I sent an e-mail to Doughbacca. I've been an MDE since January, and this is the method I've been using to make the Adv R3 chassis for production.


We all know the ONE component that makes the R3 difficult: 2 identical advanced droid brains from afactory crate.


I make crates of 25 GP Modules and 25 Electronic Modules. I turn around and pull one crate of each, then make the schematic for the advanced droid brain, then reload the Modules (now at 21 in each crate due to the consumption used to make the schematic) into my factory, and that yields a crate of 5 advanced droid brains. I repeat this process until I am out of crates of elec and GP modules. I useeach crate to make two R3 chassis, and use the leftover brain for Adv R2 units so there is no waste involved.


Am I missing something here? Was the Adv R3 intended to be this big of a pain? Am I making this harder for myself than it has to be? Is there a way to yield a higher count than 25 GP/Elec Modules per crate? If someone has a faster method of doing this, I'm more than open and willing to listen.


I am just using a standard equipment factory.


Note: Please try not to turn this into a griping thread, I just want to know if there is any other way, or what method you use.


Best Regards,


Attichi'tuk

Master DE, Master Artisan, Master WS -- Ahazi Server






i have 6 factories i set up 3 to run 1000 EMM's each and another 3 to run 1000 EGPM's, then 1000 control units, then 1000 adv motive systems, and so on, will take about a weel but if you just do it all and keep doing it youll have alot of chassis. I just finished 4 runs of 123 chassis so i got almost 500 chassis. Then i make the most popular combat clusters and run different combinations. pretty good feeling to have over 500 droids listed on your vendors, it also cuts down on the custom orders once you get a good supply of EVERY combination you possibly can. I find only R3, LE, and probots sell...and sometimes load lifters....get yourself about 500 or so of each and never worry about chassis again



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