Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: Det modules is it just me?
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Nauner
Fri May 07, 2004 11:40 am
#1
Havent been paying real close attention, but I noticed that MSE droids seem to end up with a +10 bonus for explosive power with Det modules in them. This is on the basic MSE, havent tried advanced. Is this designed so they can blow up the average chuba.
Also the damage that is put out by the Det module seems to be kinetic. We did a test of det moduled droids on a target that was vulnerable to blast 0%. Figuring...explosion....blast....! well 7900 damage hit ended up getting reduced to around 1200 damage. checked the target medium armor 35% kinetic and I believe energy resist.... (Yeah some people will recognise this target :-))
Anyhow this just seems a little odd, but 3 fully packed out R3 units detonating on a target almost at the same time was sweet, one of the droids managed a 10k damage hit :-) was sweet. But would have been nicer if the damage was taken as we hoped... blast damage
d0qtrX
Fri May 07, 2004 1:52 pm
#2
It's also nice that nobody mentioned you need to be a BH or smuggler to use this...
Oh well, 12k down the tubes...
Jenden
Fri May 07, 2004 2:23 pm
#3
d0qtrX wrote:
It's also nice that nobody mentioned you need to be a BH or smuggler to use this...
Oh well, 12k down the tubes...
I've mentioned it a couple times, and I know its in the focus thread on the module...
Malitevv
Fri May 07, 2004 2:29 pm
#4
I haven't tested the damage type personally, but the customers that I have testing in the field are reporting back that the damage type appears to be blast damage.
regarding the bonuses: I believe that the way it works is that the Mouse droids get a +10 bonus per module. so if you put 2 detonation modules in the advanced MSE you'll get +20. My advanced mouse bomb droids have a detonation rating of 39, and they are selling in crates of 10 and 5 on my vendor fairly quickly. That seems to be the sweet spot in terms of cost and damage. The Adv R3 does more damage, but that puppy is expensive. I've only a couple of customers that actually want those.
neinnunb
Fri May 07, 2004 5:15 pm
#5
how much are you selling those MSE's at? I put 10 Adv MSE's in my vendor one day, few days went by and all of a sudden I was cleaned out. Im selling at 4k per mousenow and wondered if that was a good price.
I want people to use them because its fun, and since its something that is a consumable, I want to keep the prices as cheap as I can.
Message Edited by neinnunb on 05-07-2004 08:17 PM
psikobunny
Fri May 07, 2004 5:36 pm
#6
I charge 10k per MSE but I'm using high grade Tolium that I had to pay 20cpu forand dont expect to find any again soon. (got a 39 rating on my second batch of MSEs)
Jenden
Fri May 07, 2004 6:04 pm
#7
I'm going 4k per droid, thankfully I found someone who was interested in trading me some decent tollium for some detonation MSE's.
Rogue1970
Fri May 07, 2004 8:21 pm
#8
Nauner wrote:
Havent been paying real close attention, but I noticed that MSE droids seem to end up with a +10 bonus for explosive power with Det modules in them. This is on the basic MSE, havent tried advanced. Is this designed so they can blow up the average chuba.
Also the damage that is put out by the Det module seems to be kinetic. We did a test of det moduled droids on a target that was vulnerable to blast 0%. Figuring...explosion....blast....! well 7900 damage hit ended up getting reduced to around 1200 damage. checked the target medium armor 35% kinetic and I believe energy resist.... (Yeah some people will recognise this target :-))
Anyhow this just seems a little odd, but 3 fully packed out R3 units detonating on a target almost at the same time was sweet, one of the droids managed a 10k damage hit :-) was sweet. But would have been nicer if the damage was taken as we hoped... blast damage
Medium armor would reduce the damage by 75% (50% for AR1 layer (light armor) and another 50% for AR2 layer (medium armor). So your numbers seem accurate if you consider range cuts the damage some too....
I don't believe the detaontaion modules are armor piercing.
Something fun to try it out on is a lair. Have an maxed DetonationR3 droid with no combat modulesattack a lair of durni so they start poppping out like mad and attacking the LE - then detonate and watch the lair and a dozen durni go BOOM from the AOE Blast. 
Jenden
Sat May 08, 2004 12:53 am
#9
That is odd, all my tests have pointed to blast damage. On TC I've tested them out against some rebel NPC's, and noticed that the ones with higher blast resists and lower everything else always took less damage, and when I worked out the numbers it was definately using the blast resist rating. also given my tests on live with turrets and AT-ST's they're doing too much damage to be anything but blast.
AudioOrgana
Sat May 08, 2004 12:12 pm
#10
I don't know what kind of damage they do, but they fly off my shelves.
Although I don't carry BH droids, I got a lot of requests for these so I finally bit the bullet and did a factory run of MSEs.
First, let's just take a moment here - never in my entire virtual life in SWG did I ever dream I'd make crates...of MSEs...in a factory. Anyway...
So I ran off like 20 crates (of 10 each), priced them at 50K/crate. I sold out in a couple hours. Two people bought cases, left, and returned for 2-4 more within 1/2 hour. And since I ran out, I've gotten so many requests I'm going to do it again - even though the profit isn't enough really for me to put in the effort, they are very popular.
What people are doing with them? No clue. I haven't played my smuggler alt in awhile, going to try them out this weekend. I did get a couple of emails from people asking, "What is the blast radius, amount of damage, detonation something or other..." asking all about them, and I really had to /shrug and say to be honest I'm not sure, 'cause only certain professions can use them. I offered himthemsamples, andone of the people was someone who came back to buy several crates.
AO
Message Edited by AudioOrgana on 05-08-2004 03:14 AM
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