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Thread: 5th Inter-Server DEA Meeting Chat Log (05/09/04)

TheRealTK421
Sun May 09, 2004 7:56 pm
#1

Without further adieu, here's the full chatlog from tonight's 5th inter-server DEA meeting.


Enjoy!!



/bow

Respectfully,






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[Spatial] ***ignorite DoughBot Client has gone offline at Sun May 09 18:16:09 2004.
[Spatial] "yes, but for just a few, you know, that short attention span thingy and all" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I'd like to welcome you all to the 5th interserver DEA meeting..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila snickers at you.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "hehe"
[Spatial] "For those taht aren't fully aware..." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "the DENet and DEA were started as a profession 'consortium'..." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "to help DE players with issues, questions, problems, etc." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "To be stronger together than we could be alone" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "So, far this has been a pretty excellent success and has led to a lot of great things" in Shyriiwook.
[Combat] Roj Starstalker stands up.
[Spatial] "For those not aware, we have "TheWoody" to thank for our existence as a 'guild'." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto gives a hearty round of applause.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "though the original idea and premise came from me...he was really the one that made it happen and gave him life" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Xasko mourns.
[Spatial] EricTheGreat MDE'Bria misses that afro.....
[Spatial] ***zeby DoughBot Client is online at Sun May 09 18:18:30 2004.
[Spatial] "We're not a guild, we're an army!" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "oor....gave IT life. LOL" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Qert cheers. YAY!!
[Spatial] Gilack TwopointOh yip.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I'd also like to take a quick moment (since we've a lot to cover) and thank a few key personnel..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "first off...." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "A huge thanks to Jenden." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Xasko cheers for Jenden Morn.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto applauds Arolena Eto.
[Spatial] ***ignorite DoughBot Client is online at Sun May 09 18:19:25 2004.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn bows.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep applauds Wander'home DERep.
[Spatial] "A wonderful and prolific TC DE that has given us all excellent reports and insight" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] You bow to Jenden Morn.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila claps for Jenden Morn.
[Spatial] Edsoni DE-Wanderhome cheers for Jenden Morn.
[Spatial] EricTheGreat MDE'Bria blows a kiss to Jenden Morn.
[Spatial] "aye indeed" Qert says.
[Spatial] Gilack TwopointOh cheers for Jenden Morn.
[Spatial] Enu claps his hands together.
[Spatial] EricTheGreat MDE'Bria says, "hey baby"
[Spatial] Qert claps for Jenden Morn.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "jenden rocks"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I most definitely could not have handled the P8 push of info without him" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Roj Starstalker salutes Jenden Morn.
[Spatial] "No less important.....JavelinCatcher" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] -LookOfDeath- says, "lol i dont know wokkie"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "He was also very helpful and a great asset to us all.." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep smiles at Jenden Morn.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep nods at Jenden Morn.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Finally, Morturr...." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] ***ovougu DoughBot Client has gone offline at Sun May 09 18:20:37 2004.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "His initial TC reports were really the pre-focus threads and opened up a lot of the great new info we got from the TC push of hte new content" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto gives a hearty round of applause.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep cheers. YAY!!
[Spatial] "All three of those gracious and awesome individuals should be honored, thanked and otherwise lauded for their contribution to our cause" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila gives a hearty round of applause.
[Spatial] Roj Starstalker claps his hands together.
[Spatial] Qert gives a hearty round of applause.
[Spatial] Oteb Yrockaus gives a hearty round of applause.
[Spatial] Xasko claps for you.
[Spatial] Roj Starstalker gives a hearty round of applause.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn gives a hearty round of applause.
[Spatial] Gilack TwopointOh cheers. YAY!!
[Spatial] Xasko claps his hands together.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I consider all of them great contributors..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "Yes, and especially Jenden who helped immensly when it came to shutting up the whiny little cry babies on eht boards" Wander'home DERep says.
[Combat] -LookOfDeath- stands up.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "hehehe....truly." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila says, "lol"
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "Look, must u sit on my lap, m8?"
[Spatial] "hehe" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "heh, thats just my hobby" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] "sorry lol" -LookOfDeath- says.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "'sok hehe"
[Spatial] "Okay....moving on...." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Combat] Roj Starstalker stands up.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "for those unfamiliar with the format for the meeting, we usually have a Q and A session to start" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "joy" EricTheGreat MDE'Bria says.
[Spatial] "for now, I ask that you refrain from talking price" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Salena tells you, ' hiyas '.
[Combat] Salena tells you, ' hiyas '.
[GroupChat] Salena tells you, ' hiyas '.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn chuckles.
[Combat] Irlas MDEREP stands up.
[Spatial] "that issue varies too much and is too server dependent" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] -LookOfDeath- frowns.
[Spatial] You reply to Salena, 'Heya.'.
[Combat] You reply to Salena, 'Heya.'.
[GroupChat] You reply to Salena, 'Heya.'.
[Combat] -LookOfDeath- stands up.
[Spatial] Salena tells you, 'it keeps dumping me on tat, no matter how I try to get to Cor on creation heheh'.
[Combat] Salena tells you, 'it keeps dumping me on tat, no matter how I try to get to Cor on creation heheh'.
[GroupChat] Salena tells you, 'it keeps dumping me on tat, no matter how I try to get to Cor on creation heheh'.
[Spatial] Oteb Yrockaus snickers.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "not to mention it really depends on HOW u price"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "hold on..../tell. /sigh" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Salena tells you, 'could I get 1k from ya, ta get there '.
[Combat] Salena tells you, 'could I get 1k from ya, ta get there '.
[GroupChat] Salena tells you, 'could I get 1k from ya, ta get there '.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "I peronally use the PITA factor"
[Spatial] You reply to Salena, 'You have to start on Tat now.'.
[Combat] You reply to Salena, 'You have to start on Tat now.'.
[GroupChat] You reply to Salena, 'You have to start on Tat now.'.
[Spatial] An amount of 2000 credits have been transferred from your bank to escrow. It will be delivered to salena as soon as possible.
[Combat] An amount of 2000 credits have been transferred from your bank to escrow. It will be delivered to salena as soon as possible.
[Spatial] Salena tells you, 'I would cross server send you mony, but I don't think I can.. LOL'.
[Combat] Salena tells you, 'I would cross server send you mony, but I don't think I can.. LOL'.
[GroupChat] Salena tells you, 'I would cross server send you mony, but I don't think I can.. LOL'.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Had to tip a DENet Admin" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Edsoni DE-Wanderhome says, "you mean pity ?"
[Combat] Qert stands up.
[Spatial] "[beep... clik] Greetings Owimajao Acka." R2-B7 (a helper R2 unit) says.
[Spatial] "no, I mean PITA" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "okay...back on track..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I'm working on that Dough, I just need peeps to send in their prices and servers so I can put some lists up on the website" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] "PITA = Pain In The Ass" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla if only there were a way to beat the undercutters into compliance.
[Spatial] Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla smiles.
[Spatial] Salena tells you, 'hehe you can tell it's been awhile sense I started a new character '.
[Combat] Salena tells you, 'hehe you can tell it's been awhile sense I started a new character '.
[GroupChat] Salena tells you, 'hehe you can tell it's been awhile sense I started a new character '.
[Spatial] "okay...getting OFF price." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook. "Lol"
[Spatial] "hehe, sorry" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "hehe"
[Spatial] "[beep... clik] Greetings Gilack TwopointOh." R2-S2 (a helper R2 unit) says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I figured the Q and A should be module specific..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "to keep things focused." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto raises her hand.
[Spatial] Qert raises his hand.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila says, "I do have a Q about that"
[Combat] Owimajao Acka stands up.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep raises his hand.
[Spatial] "yea, arolena" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Combat] Arolena Eto stands up.
[Spatial] Owimajao Acka says, "can someone teach me wookie speak?"
[Spatial] Salena tells you, 'people starting to show up?'.
[Combat] Salena tells you, 'people starting to show up?'.
[GroupChat] Salena tells you, 'people starting to show up?'.
[Spatial] ***delisal DENet is online at Sun May 09 18:26:02 2004.
[Spatial] You invite Owimajao Acka to join your group.
[Combat] You invite Owimajao Acka to join your group.
[Spatial] You reply to Salena, 'Yea'.
[Combat] You reply to Salena, 'Yea'.
[GroupChat] You reply to Salena, 'Yea'.
[Spatial] You have formed the group.
[Combat] You have formed the group.
[Spatial] Channel information complete.
[Combat] Channel information complete.
[GroupChat] Channel information complete.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "Probably lots of folks have this question, but do we have any confirmation from TC that the fix to the maintenance mods is actually working?"
[Spatial] You offer to teach Owimajao Acka Shyriiwook Comprehension (Wookiee Language).
[Combat] You offer to teach Owimajao Acka Shyriiwook Comprehension (Wookiee Language).
[Spatial] Owimajao Acka learns Shyriiwook Comprehension (Wookiee Language) from you.
[Combat] Owimajao Acka learns Shyriiwook Comprehension (Wookiee Language) from you.
[Spatial] You have new mail.
[Combat] You have new mail.
[GroupChat] You have new mail.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep thinks you really shouldn't insult the wookie by calling his language "wookie speak" lol.
[Spatial] The group has been disbanded.
[Combat] The group has been disbanded.
[Spatial] spoonman says, "haha" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "moaning comprehension..." Ireu O'Neil says.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn agrees with Wander'home DERep.
[Spatial] "I've not heard anything new on the TC fix..." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Jenden?" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "Have you tried them yet?" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "i have one" -LookOfDeath- says.
[Spatial] "I haven't had a chance to test it out yet" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] "okay...well..." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla says, "are they currently working in any droid frames?"
[Spatial] "I'll tell you what I nkow" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "They should work in ANY droid" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] -LookOfDeath- asks if anyone can give him a hand.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila says, "I've posted up that they weren't working, and recommended not building them until patch said they where fied"
[Spatial] -LookOfDeath- says, "i have a question"
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep nods at Shaila Amawila.
[Spatial] "I used the mail that Doughbacca sent out" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I do not know if current installed mods will still work" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "i have one from day one of pub 8 that works in a r5 but the rest nope.." spoonman says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] spoonman says, "i used it this morn and works fine" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Salena tells you, 'what are your cords hun, don't mean to bug ya, I know you probably in tell hell atm '.
[Combat] Salena tells you, 'what are your cords hun, don't mean to bug ya, I know you probably in tell hell atm '.
[GroupChat] Salena tells you, 'what are your cords hun, don't mean to bug ya, I know you probably in tell hell atm '.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila ponders.
[Spatial] You reply to Salena, '-5420 / -6256'.
[Combat] You reply to Salena, '-5420 / -6256'.
[GroupChat] You reply to Salena, '-5420 / -6256'.
[Spatial] Owimajao Acka shrugs.
[Spatial] "do you have stacked mods, or just 1?" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "sorry....got a /tell again" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] spoonman says, "just one" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] EricTheGreat MDE'Bria raises his hand.
[Spatial] EricTheGreat MDE'Bria says, "i have a real quick question too"
[Spatial] Owimajao Acka raises his hand.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "you should be able to stack these to get more structures" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Owimajao Acka says, "i have a question"
[Spatial] "any of the ones i made on day one of pub 8work fine still just any after that dont" spoonman says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "let's do this...if you have a question, send it via an email, so I can get them in order" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "yea...if you made any Structure mods on patch day, they should still work (from the reports I'm seeing)" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "if anyone else wants to try an R5 with those mods please send me the results so I can update" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] You have new mail.
[Combat] You have new mail.
[GroupChat] You have new mail.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "knew I should have gotten around to making some..."
[Spatial] "i made many crates on patch day but next day they lost stats" Qert says.
[Spatial] "and didnt work" Qert says.
[Spatial] "yea, I could imagine crates would be busted" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] "the whole insta-craft thing" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] You have new mail.
[Combat] You have new mail.
[GroupChat] You have new mail.
[Spatial] "Ok, when, if ever, are we getting pleasure bots? Because I need something to replace my wife, and frankly, I cant let her go *low power* permanetly without going to one of the Emperor's workcamps" EricTheGreat MDE'Bria says.
[Spatial] "i have made several since then and none of them worked in any combo" Oteb Yrockaus says.
[Spatial] You have new mail.
[Combat] You have new mail.
[GroupChat] You have new mail.
[Spatial] You have new mail.
[Combat] You have new mail.
[GroupChat] You have new mail.
[Spatial] "if crates got busted (and with the fix coming), I'd think you'd be okay when the fix comes out" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "thats my guess" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] ***olin DoughBot Client is online at Sun May 09 18:31:33 2004.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "hold on, everyone..." in Shyriiwook.









TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


TheRealTK421
Sun May 09, 2004 8:01 pm
#2

[Spatial] You have new mail.
[Combat] You have new mail.
[GroupChat] You have new mail.
[Spatial] EricTheGreat MDE'Bria bursts into tears.
[Spatial] "anyone logging this?" Jenden Morn says.
[Combat] Gilack TwopointOh stands up.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "we need to keep spatially slow or the scroll speed can get out of hand" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I'm logging it" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I am" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "[bwoop... clik] Hello -LookOfDeath-." R2-W8 (a helper R2 unit) says.
[Spatial] Gilack TwopointOh comforts EricTheGreat MDE'Bria.
[Spatial] "horomone therapy" EricTheGreat MDE'Bria says.
[Spatial] An amount of 2000 credits have been transferred from your bank to escrow. It will be delivered to micco as soon as possible.
[Combat] An amount of 2000 credits have been transferred from your bank to escrow. It will be delivered to micco as soon as possible.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep kills the newbie droid.
[Spatial] R2-W2 (a helper R2 unit) says, "[tweet... clik] Salutations -LookOfDeath-."
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "okay...owimajao has asked when armor will work for droids" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "the answer is....it does." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "[bwoop... clik] Hello Gilack TwopointOh." R2-J6 (a helper R2 unit) says.
[Spatial] "beyond lvl 3?" Owimajao Acka says.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila says, "geeze, don't scare me like that"
[Spatial] "ahh yes the good ol display bug" Qert says.
[Spatial] Enu says, "lol"
[Spatial] "it is now at the state in which I expct it will stay for teh duration" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "right now, it will display 40% resists as a bug, when it should be 20%" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto raises her hand.
[Spatial] "brb in a few" EricTheGreat MDE'Bria says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "however, AR=0 and 20% is the new maximum armor that will be allowed for non-DC droids" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "thats for level 6, all of them will display 40% but they will be lower nubers depending on the level"
[Spatial] -LookOfDeath- says, "non-DC ?"
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "What rating do you need to have in a level 6 armor module to get the 20% resists?"
[Spatial] "So the 40% is only a Display and it actually actas as 20%?" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "which means....the armor stays as is (except for the display bug, which I'm working on getting fixed ASAP)" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "yea" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "k, ty"
[Spatial] ***maast DENet is online at Sun May 09 18:34:12 2004.
[Spatial] "20% is what you will effectively get........even if it says 40%" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Owimajao Acka nods at you.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "okay...next..." in Shyriiwook.
[Combat] Oteb Yrockaus stands up.
[Spatial] Qert says, "any level 6 module will be at its max capability regardless of rating is this correct?"
[Spatial] "yea" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] "our Wanderhome DENet Admin is asking about the Merchant certs for the merchant module" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "TY" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "it is supposed to be Ad 4 that's needed but it may be working at Ad 3" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Combat] Silveraroo stands up.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I've not heard of this before...for the most part, I've been seeing the Ad 4 cert working" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep nods at you.
[Spatial] "ty" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] "Anyone else seeing this problem?" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "ive read it works even if your not merchant, but not with full capability" Qert says.
[Spatial] "is it being reported anywhere?" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "that thread had other ppl trying ad3 and getting nothing" Gilack TwopointOh says.
[Spatial] spoonman says, "i have advert 3 and cant use it yet on chilastra" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "well, if you're not Merchant, you should still be able to have it give out waypoints" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "but you have to have an Ad 4 Merchant load the WP" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "for non merchant it does nothing at all"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "also...." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "yea, that's true" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] You have new mail.
[Combat] You have new mail.
[GroupChat] You have new mail.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "if you're not a Merchant, you really can't use one effectively (but you can have/c all the droid)" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep nods.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Gilack is asking about the Trap modules and the stats" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "the Trap modules effectiveness basically results in ...err..." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook. "Better trappeing."
[Combat] Roj Starstalker stands up.
[Spatial] "like succes rates?" Owimajao Acka says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I think is you're "succes to trap" roll that's getting buffed here" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "yea, basically" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "so more accuracy, or launch speed?" Gilack TwopointOh says.
[Spatial] ***hook DoughBot Client has gone offline at Sun May 09 18:37:58 2004.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "yea, I believe duration is trap speed...isn't that right, Jenden?" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I think that's what the Scouts have been reporting" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "both really since it isn't affected by your combat queue" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "I think so, haven't had much of a chance to test it"
[Spatial] "I sold one with 2 , dang, 15% stats and the buyer said he was getting 10% than if he harvested himself" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "this is trapping, Shaila" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "oh wait, wrong mod" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] "not the harvest module shaila" Gilack TwopointOh says.
[Spatial] "LOL" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "hehehe" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila blushes.
[Spatial] Gilack TwopointOh smiles at Shaila Amawila.
[Spatial] "ok thanks" Gilack TwopointOh says.
[Spatial] "im satisfied" Gilack TwopointOh says.
[Spatial] ***wzlskd DoughBot Client is online at Sun May 09 18:39:11 2004.
[Spatial] ***oteb DENet has gone offline at Sun May 09 18:39:12 2004.
[Spatial] "the Trap (we believe) is experimenting on both the success of the trap roll and the speed at which traps are thrown" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila says, "I havn't made any of the trapping mods yet"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "we won't really know unless we have a DE Scout to test and report or a good Scout to bget us some numbers" in Shyriiwook.
[Combat] Wander'home DERep stands up.
[Spatial] "Right now, I'd say that those are likely to be what you're working on when you experiment on those modules" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "My alt has at least low level scout -- I can try to test it with her if I have the time" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] Gilack TwopointOh says, "I havea ranger in guild, and will be testing, I just wanted to know if someone had already"
[Spatial] Salena Kyle gives you a hug.
[Spatial] "ah good - nevermind, then LOL" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "I have scout, but no trapping yet" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] "I am going to be making a DE on test in the next couple of days I will pick up scout and try and test it" Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla says.
[Combat] -LookOfDeath- kneels.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I see that LookOfDeath asked about L6 Storage (9but it's already been answered)." in Shyriiwook.
[Combat] Salena Kyle stands up.
[Spatial] "10 items is the max. Perios" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "and...your stats don't matter if you use an L6 module" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Salena Kyle says, "eekk, can someone teach me wookie "
[Spatial] -LookOfDeath- bows to you.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "is that true of ANY module?"
[Spatial] "yes any l6 module" Qert says.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "k, ty"
[Spatial] "So any rating will give 10 item storage? Even a critical fail down to zero?" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "well...no." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "Is that also true of med modules -- will any level 6 give +110?" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "your rating DOES technically matter" in Shyriiwook.
[Combat] Irlas MDEREP stands up.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "if you crit down to 0 on any mod, I wouldn't use it." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "but that's me." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] R2-M4 (a helper R2 unit) says, "[bwoop... clik] Hello Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla."
[Spatial] "then what is the point of experimenting on them at all?" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "if you get an 'average' rating, you're in good shape to get the 10 space storage" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "just look at the module rating, it needs to be 11 or more" Jenden Morn says.
[Combat] Salena Kyle stands up.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "there really isn't a reason to experiment on the level 6 stuff"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "the reason to experiment relates to how that part will contribute later" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] R2-X7 (a helper R2 unit) says, "[tweet... clik] Salutations Bunz Oid."
[Spatial] "Is that true of med modules as well?" Arolena Eto says.
[Combat] Salena Kyle stands up.
[Spatial] "yes" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] R2-X5 (a helper R2 unit) says, "[tweet... clik] Salutations Enu."
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "in some cases, I believe (and others do too) taht the Quality has an impact on whether or not you crit later when you deed" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "Doughbacca - what do you mean by contribute later?" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "aaahhh"
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "ah"
[Spatial] "i personally dont believe quality has anything to do with crit fails" Qert says.
[Spatial] "well...the quality is like a bonus/minus to whether or not you roll a "Critical" later..." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "So you're saying if you experiment on everything, you'll have lower chance of crit in the final combine?" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "didn't we clear that one up with the 200 LE's?"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "or a Great success, etc." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Wander..................from what I've seen reported, and my personal view, yes...that's true" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep nods at you.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "Man, I've crit failed more times on fully experimented & loaded R3's than I want to think about"
[Spatial] "good to know" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] "if you have higher quality parts, I BELIEVE that you'll be less likely to crit later when you put those parts into larger schematics" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Micco Longwalker nods at you.
[Spatial] "you can still get crits" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "not much problem tho if your only making schematics" Qert says.
[Spatial] You have new mail.
[Combat] You have new mail.
[GroupChat] You have new mail.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila says, "hmm, I rarely crit on anything, but I do experiement everything to the max"
[Spatial] "from what I can tell, the quality rating simply effects how likely a higher vs. Lower 'roll' later on down the line" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "Huge problem when it's the final combine on an adv. R3 droid"
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep nods at Arolena Eto.
[Spatial] "there are still a lot of questions on crafting experimentation, crit rate, etc." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Qert says, "ive crit failed once on a deed and i never experiment on components"
[Spatial] "those are current topics on the Corr." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook. "Boards...and by now means are they dead issues"
[Spatial] "okay...next question..." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "anyone have 75 metal and 30 chemical so i can shut this stupid droid up?" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] "ROFL" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "lol" -LookOfDeath- says.
[Spatial] "just destroy it" spoonman says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "or store it"
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "nah, i want the vehicle"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "owimajao wants to know if we can get rid of Level 1-5 modules and just have level 6 on them all" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I'd say.............no" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "that's a bad idea." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I store it but it keeps calling itself back out every 10 minutes lol" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] "why" -LookOfDeath- says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "it's more to work to take all that out" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "it kills anyone thats not master" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] "true" -LookOfDeath- says.
[Spatial] "well...that's the way the crafting game really is" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] ***bernoulli DoughBot Client is online at Sun May 09 18:47:53 2004.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep nods at Jenden Morn.
[Spatial] "you're a Master or not." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "im just saying they are are useless" Owimajao Acka says.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "eh, I made a pretty good business before I was master, most people tend to skip through it but that doesn't mean you have to"
[Spatial] "It doesn't kill them so much...just makes it harder" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "they are useless to masters"
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "I made a decent living off them before I mastered"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I know a few that aren't masters and do okay../." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Qert says, "like stim-a's are kinda uselss to master docs"
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "not everyone can afford top end stuff"
[Spatial] "it depends on what they want to do in game other than craft" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "all professions have redundencies" Qert says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "that's true..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "anyway.." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] -LookOfDeath- says, "..."
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "taking out the level 1-5 is time that we could use getting bigger, better things" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Irlas MDEREP says, "like???"
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep agrees with you.
[Spatial] "second that" -LookOfDeath- says.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila says, "at'ats!"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Space droids" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Edsoni DE-Wanderhome agrees with you.








TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


TheRealTK421
Sun May 09, 2004 8:02 pm
#3

[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "Maybe it's just me, but I have occasionally made a combo of level 4 & 3 when I don't have the resources on me to make a single 6"
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "real combat droids!"
[Spatial] "would love to see more variety of experimentation on droid armor" Qert says.
[Spatial] Salena Kyle says, "agreed"
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "we have space droids"
[Spatial] "there...you made me say it." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook. ""
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "we will soon. " in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "well...we'll have info soon" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "technically that's what the R series are SUPPOSED to be"
[Spatial] "heh" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] "I nkow...but there's more love coming, nall" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila says, "what exactly is a space droid?"
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "... Just teasing us..."
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "and...sorry for all the typos, just trying to keep up]" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Qert says, "a droid from space of course"
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep chuckles politely at Qert.
[Spatial] "lol" Irlas MDEREP says.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila says, "oh, silly me!"
[Spatial] "well, I'm not trying to tease...just giving you the real timeline" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "the Dev timeline for us is....." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "P" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] You have new mail.
[Combat] You have new mail.
[GroupChat] You have new mail.
[Spatial] Irlas MDEREP says, "not like the movies?"
[Spatial] Arolena Eto gives doughbacca a drumroll.
[Spatial] "space droid stuff (pre-space up to SE launch) then combat droids (DL20+) after space" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] ***patterson DoughBot Client has gone offline at Sun May 09 18:51:34 2004.
[Spatial] "A long time from now in a galaxy far far away the DE's will get another patch" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] "I do not yet know what things we will be getting or seeing..." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I'll be getting THAT information soon" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "how soon lol" -LookOfDeath- says.
[Spatial] Salena Kyle says, "R3 packed with creature harvesting goodness has been a big hit "
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "My point is that we don't want the Devs taking time to remove stuff. We want them adding" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Edsoni DE-Wanderhome cheers for you!
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila says, "yes, yes it has"
[Spatial] "yes" Irlas MDEREP says.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "very true"
[Spatial] Arolena Eto gives you an ovation. Good job!
[Spatial] "hehe R3 with all 6 effects modules is my biggest seller other than mice that go boom" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] Xasko agrees with you.
[Combat] Roj Starstalker stands up.
[Spatial] Qert says, "droidekas"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "LookOfDeath wants to know about DC" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "here's the deal on that...." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "dc?" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "[tweet... clik] Salutations Micco Longwalker." R2-Z8 (a helper R2 unit) says.
[Spatial] "Droid 'handler" (Droid Commander)" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I would like to see trade federation combat droids! " Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] "ty" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] R2-T6 (a helper R2 unit) says, "[bwoop... clik] Hello Salena Kyle."
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "it's the current likely way that higher level combat droids will be added to the game" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "now...." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] ***kinsan DoughBot Client has gone offline at Sun May 09 18:53:25 2004.
[Spatial] "NO!" Owimajao Acka says.
[Spatial] "how THAT goes down is, in some part, reliant on OUR input" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla says, "I just want to know the name of the dev that came up with the DC idea so we can beat him with a trout"
[Spatial] "we use the terms "DC" and "DH"" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "DC is a good idea" Irlas MDEREP says.
[Spatial] -LookOfDeath- says, "i like DC"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "but whatever the solution is doesn't have to be a carbon copy of CH...and they don't want it to be]" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "DC is nice" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] "why all the complaint, sell more droids" Irlas MDEREP says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "the point is that using a profession 'template' is a good/easy want to get this stuff in game" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "[bwoop... clik] Hello Owimajao Acka." R2-B7 (a helper R2 unit) says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "how it goes down in more detail can be driven by the ideas and proposals for how it is done" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] -LookOfDeath- says, "how soon will this be"
[Spatial] "we will be seeing our 'guideline' post pretty soon" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Owimajao Acka says, "WILL dc BE AN ELITLE PROFESSION BRANCHING OF FROM de"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "TH mentinoed to me that they are making good headway on that and should be getting me something post E3, I suspect" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "not likely" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] Salena tells you, 'eek there grilling you, sorry should have realized they would do that ...'.
[Combat] Salena tells you, 'eek there grilling you, sorry should have realized they would do that ...'.
[GroupChat] Salena tells you, 'eek there grilling you, sorry should have realized they would do that ...'.
[Spatial] "I sure hope not" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Slow down...." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "Won't give me any business that way"
[Spatial] "Everyone....slow down" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Salena tells you, 'I should have I ment.'.
[Combat] Salena tells you, 'I should have I ment.'.
[GroupChat] Salena tells you, 'I should have I ment.'.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "sorry"
[Spatial] "that does sort of leave the question of where WILL it branch from though?" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I know that DH/DC is a hot topic..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "this is somethin we arent likely to see prolly well into 2005" Qert says.
[Spatial] ***sonicatomic DENet is online at Sun May 09 18:56:06 2004.
[Spatial] "there's a lot of strong feelings about how it should go (or not) go down" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I fought just as hard as any to NOT see combat droids added this way..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Owimajao Acka says, "i jist dont want to have to spend more skill points to be able to be a DH"
[Spatial] "but after the perspective that I have now, I think it may be our best answer." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "there's reasons for that...." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "but I don't want to have this conversation now...." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I personally would rather see a DH profession than never get CL20+ combat droids" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "it will not help us to move forward, since it so far off" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Irlas MDEREP claps for you.
[Spatial] "so back to module Q and A ?" Qert says.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "plus would take an hour or two itself..."
[Spatial] "we WILL see DL20+ droids in the game at some ponit" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "In the end it doesn't matter what we say anyway cus SOE is gonna listen to Lucas Arts more they than they do to us, and if Lucas wants something done a certain way that's how it gets done or the licensing get's pulled" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] "lol" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] Edsoni DE-Wanderhome says, "yes good topic for another meeting"
[Spatial] "the Devs want very much to add them" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Gilack TwopointOh says, "I'd almost rather see them not added at all, considering the continuiity and the strides we've made in utilkity modules"
[Spatial] ***tristain DoughBot Client is online at Sun May 09 18:57:54 2004.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "this really shoujld be the topic of an entire other meeting" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "AFTER we have our guidelines" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "agreed" Gilack TwopointOh says.
[Spatial] Edsoni DE-Wanderhome agrees with you.
[Spatial] "but not now" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "agreed"
[Spatial] Jenden Morn agrees with you.
[Spatial] Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla mumbles something about more checkers.
[Spatial] Salena Kyle agrees with gilack.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "okay...moving on..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Micco Longwalker agrees with you.
[Spatial] "Aye" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] Irlas MDEREP agrees with you.
[Spatial] Xasko says, "nor do you want to release something you shouldn't"
[Spatial] Owimajao Acka says, "who gets voted off"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "okay...the next question is about the "more droids in datapad"" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] -LookOfDeath- cheers. YAY!!
[Spatial] "this was our question for the 19 Answers thread..." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "our answer is locked, so I'm gonna share the paraphrased answer with you now" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "was it answer" -LookOfDeath- says.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto perks up.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "basically..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "which we should get an answer to next week" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] "?" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] "they DO see this as a very real possiblity....." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] ***toos DENet has gone offline at Sun May 09 18:59:20 2004.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "not soon, mind you..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "yeah they have enough database problems as it is" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] "will this be for only de or for everyone" -LookOfDeath- says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "but they did answer that it is something they would be cool to revisit when it's good/appropriate" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "no...it would be for MDEs only, I suspect" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Salena Kyle cheers for you!
[Spatial] "then we need to keep on it" Gilack TwopointOh says.
[Spatial] "the issue here is that the change is not trivial" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Edsoni DE-Wanderhome says, "hmmm there is hope then and that's good"
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "should be for DE's and DC/DH's"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "and they need to focus on the revamps and other bugs first" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto thinks that's not much of an answer, but knows that's not Doughbacca's fault.
[Spatial] Gilack TwopointOh says, "time for Survivor, bye folks"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "hehehe..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Gilack TwopointOh says, "thanks a lot!"
[Spatial] You wave to him.
[Spatial] "Aye bugs" Edsoni DE-Wanderhome says.
[Spatial] Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla says, "survivor sucks"
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep waves to Gilack TwopointOh.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "well...not necessarily OUR bugs...just other things" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep agrees with Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla.
[Spatial] Salena Kyle says, "maintaince module /grumple"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "the deal is that we might well see a +x droids added to MDE box" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Qert says, "yea like dismounting pseeder and landing 100m away"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "but it will be later in time, when they can plan it into the Dev schedule" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "yeah qert lol"
[Spatial] "fair enough" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I'll stay on this to find out what kind of ETA it would be and will be revising the Top 5 and Top 20 lists so that we can get a new baseline to work from moving forward" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "however..." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "So we just need to keep the pressure on, then"
[Spatial] "+x droid added ???" Edsoni DE-Wanderhome says. "What is +x"
[Spatial] "very soon, we will get some unknown amount of SE related droid info" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] R2-W2 (a helper R2 unit) says, "[bwoop... clik] Hello -LookOfDeath-."
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "that new info is going to impact what we think is important, I'm sure" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "x is a variable number, didn't you take algebra?" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "so...as for what we focus on..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "[tweet... clik] Salutations Gilack TwopointOh." R2-J6 (a helper R2 unit) says.
[Spatial] "I think we wait until after E3 and we get that info that JustG has been promising me" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "[tweet... clik] Salutations -LookOfDeath-." R2-K2 (a helper R2 unit) says.
[Spatial] "makes sense" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep agrees with you.
[Spatial] "In addition, it IS possible (I don't know yet) that we will have some say on what gets done with those changes" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Edsoni DE-Wanderhome agrees with you.
[Spatial] Owimajao Acka says, "when e3?"
[Spatial] "input is always good" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Salena Kyle cheers. YAY!!
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "next week, Owimajao"
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "E3's this week I believe"
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "would be nice but I'm not gonna hold my breath"
[Spatial] "so, you will want to start thinking of the proposals that would make sense for droids in vehicles and space, etc." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "E3 is this coming week" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I suspect I'll have new info on droid stuff in a week or 2" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "As always...when I know things, you all will know them" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "In addition to the SE droid stuff..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "oh my.. Droids in space.. alot of things come to everyones mind on that... repair, increased power, derverting power... on and on" Salena Kyle says.
[Spatial] "bah, they've patched us twice, doubtful we'll see anything more for quite ahwile, they have ALOT of work to do in other areas and we should be happy wuith what we've gotten for now." Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] "we'll also want to be mindful of what kind of factioned Overt DE stuff could change for the coming GCW revamp" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Owimajao Acka says, "overt DE?"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Wander....our space DE changes would roll out with the expansion" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto chuckles at the idea of a DE faction.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Yea...any factioned (Rebel / Imp) DE could craft Overt droid related 'stuff'" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "what that stuff is......we don't yet know" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "Yeah Doughy, but alot of proffs gonna get changed with SE" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] "hmmm, interesting :-)" Micco Longwalker says.
[Spatial] "basically, the Devs want to see crafters start to have input, or an effect, on the GCW" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "I wouldn't expect them to dedicate anymore dev to us for awhile though other than whatever is needed to roll out SE"
[Spatial] "how this happens may well be related to what we suggest" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "like the Mandolarian Armor?" Xasko says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "similar to Mandalor armor, yes" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I have one thought, and that is that there needs to be some way for non-combat professions to get faction xp besides fighting missions" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "Yeah, we could make faction specific droids!" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "they are looking to see interdependence and relation to different game systems..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "i read somethin about DE's crafting BH mandalorian helmets" Qert says.
[Spatial] Qert says, "or having somethin to do with the mado armor"
[Spatial] "My Master DE on Sunrunner has zero combat skills, and so is neutral be default" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Qert, that is true. DEs are needed to make the helmets and bracers" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "yes Qert, I've been reading same thing" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] Qert says, "very cool"
[Spatial] "sweet" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] "Well, your DE's faction XP could well come from 'perks' that you make on behalf of other factioned players" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep nods at you.
[Spatial] "right now, it's sounding like there could be an "Overt crafting station" in bases" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "that would be very cool"
[Spatial] "if your were factioned Overt, you could craft factioned Overt perks" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "that would be nice because I'm MDE, Master Artisan and Politician, I have no points left for combat"
[Spatial] -LookOfDeath- says, "that would be cool"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "for this risk (you'd get a TEF), you'd' gain FP" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "LOL -- although my overt crafter would be a sitting duck! LOL" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "thats why you get a well defended base..." Jenden Morn says. "And friends"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Arolena, the point is....other factioned players would have to guard you" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Indeed...Jended has it" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "the factioned combat folks would be your army (meatshield)" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "Sorry -- was just joshing -- I understand the concept & think it's great" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "not to mention an AT-St or 2 "
[Spatial] "if yer imp of course" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "something else for rebs"
[Spatial] "Er, I'm rebebl -- no ATST's for me" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "So...this is all forthcoming. None of it is a lock, however. We are just at the ideas stage" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "or rebel sympathizer anyway"
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "20 troopers should about do it hehe"
[Spatial] "but if you DO have ideas that you'd like to see in the mix, get them posted soon...." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "the time will draw near when decisions will be made" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "focus thread on the boards would be a good place" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "heard anything about the jedi quests?"
[Spatial] "okay....moving on..." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "for those that haven't seen it" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "will us non combat pur crafter types be able to get jedi?"
[Spatial] "any other module questions?" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Qert says, "harvest modules"
[Spatial] Qert says, "and their ratings"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Wander, I don't know." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "harvest module ratings...." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Qert says, "the effect on amount harvested by droid owners harvest bonus"
[Spatial] "this is sketchy, from what I've seen but let me lay out what I think is happening" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
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[Spatial] Xasko says, "we need OrionsByte to do the math"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "basically, it's a scaling percentage based against the Scout's harvest skill mod" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "that's why I was getting solid TC reports that a 120 rating droid was getting a 20% yield on harvest" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] ***jynara DoughBot Client is online at Sun May 09 19:11:59 2004.
[Spatial] "the other numbers I saw were bearing this out" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.









TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


TheRealTK421
Sun May 09, 2004 8:03 pm
#4

[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "however...." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] R2-M4 (a helper R2 unit) says, "[beep... clik] Greetings Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla."
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "if you had a 50 level mod, for example..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "the Scout's level appears to get used" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "Best I can get on a mod so far is 17, so 6 of those in an adv R3 are giving me something like a 104 rating with a nice little bonus to harvesting & scout xp"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "this is actually similar to how the Med modules work, I believe" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] R2-X7 (a helper R2 unit) says, "[beep... clik] Greetings Bunz Oid."
[Spatial] "Jenden would you say that sounds right?" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "Good question for the week" Edsoni DE-Wanderhome says.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "Do you get xp from using trap module? Alot of people been asking me that"
[Spatial] "from what I've been seeing/hearing its some kind of relationship between your droids skill and your skills" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "Haven't tried that yet"
[Spatial] "yes, you do wander" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] "well im hearing theres not much difference between say +99 droid harvest bonus and +60" Qert says.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "ty Jenden"
[Spatial] Qert says, "for novice scout i hear they provide roughly same bonus"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "yea...and the relation, I believe, isn't a straight percentage, but some modified rule" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "..." -LookOfDeath- says.
[Combat] Micco Longwalker stands up.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "that's because it may well be a percentage of the Scout's level" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto grumbles something rude about Ireu O'Neil.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "oops"
[Spatial] "LOL" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "if the level is low, and it's a 107 rating, you'll only see a 7% increase over an already low number" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "thus, it LOOKS the same (when, in fact, it's not)" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "it effectively becomes the same." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "if someone can get me quite a few number I should be able to figure out the relation, I just haven't been able to gather all the data"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "as the Scouts level rises, the droid becomes more effective though" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "especially if it's a good droid" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "For now, I'd say a good rule of thumb to go by is that...." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "so player with +45 bonus with benefit more than a +10 player bonus with a +100 harvest droid?" Qert says.
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[Spatial] R2-H4 (a helper R2 unit) says, "[tweet... clik] Salutations Wander'home DERep."
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "yes"
[Spatial] "the Harvest bonus is, in fact, representing the % of the Scout's harvest skill mod" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Qert.....yes" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "So if you made, say, and adv." Arolena Eto says. "MSE with 2 17-rated harv mods in it, will that actually DECREASE your harvesting ability?"
[Spatial] "In that situation, the Scout would only get an extra 1 per harvest" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Qert says, "so a +99 droid would only harvest 99% of their total capability then?"
[Spatial] "versus the +45 player that gets an extra 4.5" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "no" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] Qert says, "ahh i see what youre gettin at"
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "it's the percentage bonus to their skill, not a percentage of what they get"
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "that's where I get totally confused -- I understand the benefit of an over-100 rated droid, but I don't understand what happens if it's under 100"
[Spatial] ***olin DoughBot Client has gone offline at Sun May 09 19:17:21 2004.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "right -- so does it take their skill mod DOWN if it's under 100?"
[Spatial] "Correct." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook. "The percentage is of the Scout's skill"
[Spatial] ***jynara DoughBot Client is online at Sun May 09 19:17:39 2004.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I don't think so....it's an additional modifier" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "not take their skill mod down, but use less than their skill mod is what I meant to say"
[Spatial] "and that's why I think it's not a straight percentage too" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I've seen numbers that seem to suggest that the harvest % rule they are using is NOT linear" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I don't yet know what the curve is like...but it's clearly not linear" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "yea" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] "so +45 with +50 droid would get 2.25 more?" Qert says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "that wouldn't make sense for them to do that" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Qert says, "but that would be linear so nm"
[Spatial] "non linear equation would be able to calculate if we can get enough numbers" Wander'home DERep says.
[Spatial] "Qert, yes....I think that's what you'd get" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto thinks her head is hurting from all of this.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "well...it's linear past a point (that I don't know yet)" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "someone get me the numbers and I can find the pattern.. Just can't get the numbers myself" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Qert says, "2.25 units more or 2.25% more"
[Spatial] "2.25% more" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "2.25% would suggest a curved scale" Qert says.
[Spatial] "yea" Qert says.
[Combat] Shaila Amawila stands up.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "well guys, I gotta get some sleep, I'll catch ya later on"
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep says, "someone gonna post the log on boards?"
[Spatial] "if you had a harvest bonus of 50+ with a +10 droid, you'd get an extra .5% to when the harvest roll is made" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "that's what i THINK is happening right now" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Wander'home DERep nods at you.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "but the curve falls off about 30-40%, I think" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "by +10 droid do you mean a 110 rating?" Arolena Eto says. "Or a 10 rating?"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "that's why a Scout always seems to see something close to what they can get themselves, at least" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] ***heriw DoughBot Client has gone offline at Sun May 09 19:20:46 2004.
[Spatial] "sorry, I mean a +10 harvest bonue" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "bonus" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Salena Kyle has glazed eyes... to much math has fried the last couple of braincells she has..
[Spatial] "to really understand what's happening, we all need to compile more numbers" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "sorry -- still confused -- my harvest mods add up to a 104 rating -- is that +4 or +104?" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn agrees with you.
[Spatial] "but I'd say that hypothesis is likely to be as close as any I've seen yet" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Edsoni DE-Wanderhome agrees with you.
[Spatial] "arolena, that would mean that the harvest roll will use a number that's 104% of the Scouts Harvest skill mod" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "make sense?" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "but you can safely say theres a good benefit to making +99 harvesting droids?" Qert says.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "yea qert"
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "higher is definately better"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "well, the harvest numbers aside...yes" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "So what if the mods add up to 60 instead of 104? By that logic, anything under 100 would actually decrease the roll" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "there's other practical benefits" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "Arolena, that's why the curve isn't linear" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "[beep... clik] Greetings Micco Longwalker." R2-Z8 (a helper R2 unit) says.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "lol"
[Spatial] "ok" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "I give up" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "they messed with it so that a Scout wouldn't get a useless harvest roll from the droid" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "Can't the devs just come out and tell you the Correspondent what the numbers mean?" Enu says.
[Spatial] "anyway...more numbers and analysis are needed on that. Moving on..." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "Enu....actually, no. They don't want to do that" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "question about detonation droids" Qert says.
[Spatial] Salena Kyle cheers for you!
[Spatial] "Or is that part of the game." Enu says.
[Spatial] "It's crazy that we have to figure this out on our own -- they need to know that that's NOT contributing to anyone's fun" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "it's a bit like giving the murderer before one has reached the end of the book" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "they WANT us to have to figure that all out" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "it's part of the game" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "oh, ok." Enu says.
[Spatial] ***kiyoma DoughBot Client has gone offline at Sun May 09 19:24:34 2004.
[Spatial] "I've tried to 'have it out' with them about this...but they stand firm" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "well, that would make some sense if we could actually use the droids we make, but in many cases we can't"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "they aren't just going to hand out all the numbers and systems to people" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "we are, to fill our "role", supposed to be doing this kind of analysis" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto shakes her head.
[Spatial] "perhaps they don't really know ..ha ha" Edsoni DE-Wanderhome says.
[Spatial] "makes sense" Irlas MDEREP says.
[Spatial] "they just didn't envision us doing it as a group like the DEA does. LOL" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "True" Enu says.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "When my Master Doc makes an Enhance-D pack, it says what the base heal is -- not some abstract number like "12 rating""
[Spatial] "they know the mins / maxs. Edsoni" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Yea...well, I think I can get some things changed..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "I don't get why DE has to be that strange"
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "because we're a strange group..."
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "for now, along those lines, I'll be working to get actual combat stats for the combat droid deeds" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "ROFL"
[Spatial] "lol" Irlas MDEREP says.
[Spatial] "if we do that, I think it will help a lot" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "from there.........." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "yea, that would be nice" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "thanks, Doughbacca -- that would be a HUGE help!"
[Spatial] "we'll need to compile our own numbers and build consensus on what's happening." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Edsoni DE-Wanderhome cheers for you!
[Spatial] "yea weapons have stats they dont have ratings" Qert says.
[Spatial] "For that, it's best to use the module focus threads, so we all know where to look for the latest info" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "exactly my point"
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "Speeders have hit points, stims have base heals"
[Spatial] "okay...other module specific questions?" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "detonation" Qert says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Det Modules..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "what about it?"
[Spatial] ***caskio DoughBot Client is online at Sun May 09 19:27:29 2004.
[Spatial] Qert says, "use of high OQ tolium gas and difference between ratings and dmg"
[Spatial] "the bain of the Commando Corr's existence." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook. "LOL"
[Spatial] "heh, didn't think commando's would be real happy with them" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Right now, I see that Tolium matters SOME...but it's far from the only factor" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] You must use a survey tool once from the Inventory before you can do this.
[Combat] You must use a survey tool once from the Inventory before you can do this.
[Spatial] "worth using 30cpu tolium for 38 power wehn 36 power has similar damage" Qert says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Currently, it only matters a bit...." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Qert says, "would like to get better idea of dmg vs. Rating"
[Spatial] "hold on, everyone...." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Qert says, "again same problem with ratings lol"
[Spatial] ***draupnir DoughBot Client is online at Sun May 09 19:29:22 2004.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "I think someone figured it to about 150 damage per point or something... Not sure what the exact number was"
[Spatial] "LOL" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "and again, the same answer about finding out ourselves, which is happening now" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "yea, I'd say that's pretty close, Jenden" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "I think its a bit higher than that from what I've seen, maybe around 200"
[Spatial] Qert says, "sounds about right"
[Spatial] "Can't use 'em so don't know for sure" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "200 would probably be the max, maybe 150 or so for the min" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] ***caskio DoughBot Client has gone offline at Sun May 09 19:30:46 2004.
[Spatial] "All I know is that my customers seem to be happy with 38-rated Adv." Arolena Eto says. "MSE's"
[Spatial] "Indeed...someone just bought one off my vendor about 3 min." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook. "Ago. "
[Spatial] "for how much? Lol" Enu says.
[Spatial] "very difficult to manufacture a product you know nothing about" Qert says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "remember...no pricing here, folks." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "doughbacca where is your vendor btw" Qert says.
[Spatial] ***aimec DoughBot Client is online at Sun May 09 19:32:06 2004.
[Spatial] Qert says, "sorry off topic"
[Spatial] "NW of Kor Vella, about 1.1km" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "the detonation modules are pretty straightforward at least. Higher numbers makes a bigger boom, and usually you can get a feel for what kind of damage they do from your first couple customers"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Yup..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Qert says, "yea i know they incap me everytime hehe"
[Spatial] "heh, yep" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] "lol yep" Ireu O'Neil says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I'm expecting that the BH/smugglers will start to requset them at different power rates" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I get that even now" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] R2-K2 (a helper R2 unit) says, "[beep... clik] Greetings -LookOfDeath-."
[Spatial] "Okay...other questions?" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "One thing I have meant to check..." Jenden Morn says. "Has anyone found out if a player that is damaged by one will auto-target the master?"
[Spatial] ***razia DENet has gone offline at Sun May 09 19:33:17 2004.
[Spatial] "i doubt it but not sure" Qert says.
[Spatial] "I believe it will aggro a mob on you but I don't know about a PvP TEF flag" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I suspect you WOULD get one if you were within the 96m ragne" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I know it gets you a TEF, just not sure about the auto-target/attack" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] "outside that....no" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "oh....auto-target the owner? No, I don't think so" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I'll keep an eye out for that though" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "ok guys great meeting got lots of info, i need to eat my dinner tis gettin cold" Qert says.
[Spatial] You wave to him.
[Spatial] "sorry to leave early" Qert says.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn nods at Qert.
[Spatial] Qert says, "thank you all"
[Spatial] Xasko slaps Qert across the face.
[Spatial] "Okay....well, the questions seem to be running thin" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Edsoni DE-Wanderhome waves to Qert.
[Combat] Qert stands up.
[Spatial] Xasko salutes Qert.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Anyone want to say a few words at all?" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "the floor is pretty much open..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I actually would like to say that while I understand why we don't talk about price..." Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "lets keep posting valid input and futire droid requests " Qert says.
[Spatial] "I really need some help as a relatively new DE on Sunrunner..." Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn chuckles.
[Spatial] spoonman says, "cuz its too server dependant" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] R2-T4 (a helper R2 unit) says, "[bwoop... clik] Hello Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla."
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "So I don't end up being one of those who undercuts the market"
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "yea, your best bet is to talk to the other DE's on your server, or just price as you want"
[Spatial] "So if there's anyone attending here from Sunrunner, some guidance would be appreciated" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] -LookOfDeath- says, "i am"
[Spatial] "stuff i sell on chilastra for 50k could norm be 70 on this one" spoonman says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "okay...let's talk about price..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "i am also new" -LookOfDeath- says.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn groans loudly.
[Spatial] Edsoni DE-Wanderhome says, "I run around and check vendors ...helps for a lot of things"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "price isn't JUST about the cost of materials (resources, energy, harvesting)" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "it's about VALUE to the user" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "I've done that, and pricing is all over the place, with very few stocked vendors on my server"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "if a 100k droid will help them make 500k in a week, it's a good eal" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "Have checked Corellia, Tatooine & Naboo so far" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "you need to consider how your client can use the droid to turn IT into more cash" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "relatively speaking the cost of ownership of a droid is still quite low" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "especially for those that use more established DEs that stock batteries, repair kits, etc." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "part of the issue of price has to be the perceived value to the client for YOUR time and THEIR time" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "how they use that droid will mean everything with regard to its "worth" to them in credits" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "for example..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "Yes -- but if I'm the highest priced DE on the server I'm basically screwed LOL" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla says, "I have started using swampsurfers price equation to figure mine and simply adjust for resource costs"
[Spatial] "it's not always about a price equation" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "that can help, but..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I find that lot of users will pay a premium for good help, advice and service" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "not necessarily arolena, if you've got good customer relations you can build up a large and loyal customer base that will buy from you even if your more expensive"
[Spatial] "you can't really quantify that with in-game economic numbers" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Irlas MDEREP agrees with you.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I've had a long time customer that bought 4 100k R3 droids from me in about 30 secs" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "Is our Sunrunner DE rep in attendance and/or still active in DEnet?"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "another got 700k a few days later" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "wow" Irlas MDEREP says.
[Spatial] "on both accounts, they claimed that my "help" was the thing that mattered for thenm" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla says, "yeah, I would not charge as high as I do if it didn't come with the customer service and my persistance to get them exactly what they want and let them know their options"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "they knew that I stood by behind what I made and could help them to squeeze every bit of practical, in0-game value from their purchase" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I do all that too (am a business owner in RL so I'm not exactly new to pricing services)" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "THAT is what gets you higher money" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "unfortunately, all this being said, every server's economy is different" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Salena Kyle says, "well stocked vendors, and a thoughtfull and nice store layout help "
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "so, when it comes to price, it's best to focus on the market for your server..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "then" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "Also, being able to fill a custom order quickly will go a long way towards getting you long lasting customers. I just sold someone (another DE no less) about 2mill in droids, because they knew I would get it to them fast and get the order right" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "I don't think I could sell a single R3 at 100K on Sunrunner, but who knows"
[Spatial] "you CAN sell 100k droids." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "they don't always sell in 5 min. But they WILL sell" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] ***jeggets DENet is online at Sun May 09 19:42:40 2004.
[Spatial] ***jeggets DENet has gone offline at Sun May 09 19:42:46 2004.
[Spatial] ***jeggets DENet is online at Sun May 09 19:42:50 2004.
[Spatial] "[bwoop... clik] Hello Bunz Oid." R2-X7 (a helper R2 unit) says.









TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


TheRealTK421
Sun May 09, 2004 8:04 pm
#5

[Spatial] "whats the HAM max for R3 droids now?" Irlas MDEREP says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "some players out there will have a need for your droid's services and, to them, 100k will be a small price to pay in comparison to what they can do with the droid" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "Irlas, 4500" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "Best I've been able to get is 4477"
[Spatial] R2-X5 (a helper R2 unit) says, "[bwoop... clik] Hello Enu."
[Spatial] Irlas MDEREP says, "why is that I can build an LE with 5500 +"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Anyway...price is going to vary on a lot of points" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "Doughbacca, that's only true if there's no another helpful DE selling that same droid for 35K"
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "LE's max out at 6k"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "here is my recommendation" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "er, not" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "This might make the weapon a little bulky. I'll pay you a visit if the weapon does not perform as promised." Fa-i Mosref'no (an entertainer) says.
[Spatial] "Arolena, that is a PERFECT reason to have a server with a strong DENet" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I had a post from a user who said another DE stood right there and sent tells to his customer and undercut him" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] "we found on Ahazi that having a healthy and inclusive DENet let us get our pricing 'windows' in place" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "even when you do have people selling cheaper, there aren't enough DE's on most servers to really experience any undercutting" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] "does anyone know if sunnerrunner has a strong DE net" -LookOfDeath- says.
[Spatial] "once most of the server was set, the undercutters understood that they could be getting more, since they could charge what hte market could bear" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Icaliss tells you, 'u online?'.
[Combat] Icaliss tells you, 'u online?'.
[GroupChat] Icaliss tells you, 'u online?'.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "So I ask again, then, if the Sunrunner DEnet rep is still active in the DEnet"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Yea...most of the time undercutters are so called 'backpack DE's that can afford lower overhead" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] You reply to Icaliss, 'Yea...but busy. I'll email when I"m dont'.
[Combat] You reply to Icaliss, 'Yea...but busy. I'll email when I"m dont'.
[GroupChat] You reply to Icaliss, 'Yea...but busy. I'll email when I"m dont'.
[Spatial] "I have been able to get 5970 HAM LEs" Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla says.
[Spatial] ***ignorite DoughBot Client has gone offline at Sun May 09 19:45:46 2004.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "If not, I'll be happy to take over & try to organize stuff, because from what I've seen, there is no real funcitoning DE net on Sunrunner"
[Spatial] Icaliss tells you, 'ok'.
[Combat] Icaliss tells you, 'ok'.
[GroupChat] Icaliss tells you, 'ok'.
[Spatial] "You need high oq fiberplast" Enu says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "arolena, check the DEA sticky on the forums to get that contact name" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "yeah I am using 990 fiberplast" Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla says.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "Did that, Doughbacca, thanks - haven't ever seen him around"
[Spatial] "the thing that helps every server DE the most is to promote community pricing." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Enu says, "yeah, 1000 oq gets you the max if you can get it."
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "now...that's not price "Fixing"...that can't be done" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Irlas MDEREP says, "there is a problem with rogue DE's though that dont care about the DE net"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "but it is very possible to have good set 'windows' that most DEs fall into" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] ***jeggets DENet has gone offline at Sun May 09 19:46:54 2004.
[Spatial] "would be nice if we could just get a DEnet set up on Scylla" Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "The rogues will always be out there. However, they tend not to have the volume of sales that I see DENET DEs enjoying" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Salena Kyle says, "It works "
[Spatial] "true" Irlas MDEREP says.
[Spatial] "I say all this cause Woody and I did it...here on Ahazi" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila says, "aye, I have a DEA admin list up on the swg-dea site also, but still need alot more peeps to get DEANet started on other servers"
[Spatial] "Every server can do it...it only takes a few to get the ball rolling" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "After a few meetings, the benefits become VERY clear to many" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] ***ignorite DoughBot Client is online at Sun May 09 19:48:01 2004.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "and then it stays in place, helping masters and novices alike." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "anyway...." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "there's info there on how to get a DEANet started also, so read up on, need more servers!" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] "okay...anyone want to get up here an rant about anything?" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "lol" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Salena Kyle says, "Chilastra pricing is faily stable, with only about a 20ish K differnce in pricing, new DE tend to sell for alittle less, as the recoup and get set up, while the more estabilished DEs, charge premium, and it all as worked out very well "
[Spatial] "cheers for Doughbacca!" Irlas MDEREP yells.
[Spatial] You thank him.
[Spatial] Xasko cheers for you!
[Spatial] "Sorry -- last DEnet question --- if our rep is not active anymore, how do we change reps?" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "yea, only have 10 peeps registered at the DEA website, come on slackers!" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila says, "P"
[Spatial] Edsoni DE-Wanderhome says, "Great job Doughbacca ....thanks a bunch"
[Spatial] "bah, I hate being involved!" Jenden Morn says. "(<--- is the DEA admin on tarquinas)"
[Spatial] "what is the DEA website" -LookOfDeath- says.
[Spatial] "where is the DEA website?" Xasko says.
[Spatial] "do you know members from your server dea?" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "well...here's what I'll do..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "DEA website is www.swg-dea.net" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "If I discover that a DENet Admin is MIA for too long, I'll change over to a new active head" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "that sound like the way to go?" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "maybe a week or 2?" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla says, "unfortunatly with my RL job and other commitments I do not have the time to start a DEnet for scylla"
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "that sounds good to me, Doughbacca"
[Spatial] "starting one is really better done by a few" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "yea" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila says, "I would maybe give it at least 2 weeks, maybe 3?"
[Spatial] Arolena Eto says, "LOL -- it's not a job I personally want, but I'll do it for a while if that's the only way to get something going on my server "
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "initially, the best thing to do is get a few DEs on each server to gather a list" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Irlas MDEREP says, "I have RL conflicts but managed to get a few helpers"
[Spatial] "the main thing that matters is getting to that first meeting" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Xasko says, "true one person can never find all the DEs on he server"
[Spatial] ***deaman DoughBot Client has gone offline at Sun May 09 19:51:52 2004.
[Spatial] "Or tell the real DE's from the hologrinding DE's" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] Salena Kyle says, "coming up on 40 members on Chilastra, biggest problem I have is getting people to send in waypoints for material spawns :/"
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila says, "yea, but as your deanet grows, so does your membership"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Shaila, correct." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "that sounded kinda like a duh thing" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "I get new adds every few days now" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "ha ha" Edsoni DE-Wanderhome says.
[Spatial] "the list on Ahazi is WELL over 150 DEs" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "haha i just use swgcraft its pretty good on our server salena" spoonman says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "wow" Edsoni DE-Wanderhome says.
[Spatial] "I don't send wps I let them know that something we use has spawned" Xasko says.
[Spatial] "wow" Irlas MDEREP says.
[Spatial] "I mean the more members you get, the more peeps you have keeping an eye out" Shaila Amawila says.
[Spatial] R2-Z8 (a helper R2 unit) says, "[bwoop... clik] Hello Micco Longwalker."
[Spatial] "well, resource reports are nice...but less needed now with Survey modules" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I see it more as a good way to make sure that we have DEs taht are in the know or can put out info on a broken module, bug, get quick questions answered, etc." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Irlas MDEREP claps for you.
[Spatial] "Indeed...early on, this was a way that many of us got access to some parts we sorely needed" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] R2-B7 (a helper R2 unit) says, "[beep... clik] Greetings Owimajao Acka."
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "A greater DENet on a server definitely makes a difference in ensureing that EVERY player on the server will buy from some kind of DE" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "it may not be you, always, but sometimes it will be" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "the issue is that more educated droid buyers will increase and increase...along with the health of the DENet" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "and that's not just conjecture. I've seen this happen on Ahazi (and other servers too)" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila says, "like when Doughbacca saved me with some rare minerals I desperatley needed "
[Spatial] Arolena Eto gives you an ovation. Good job!
[Spatial] ***tristain DoughBot Client has gone offline at Sun May 09 19:55:42 2004.
[Spatial] "Thunderheart!!!" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "ooops...sorry" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Shaila Amawila says, "hehe"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Made you all look, didn't I?!?" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "lol" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "lol"
[Spatial] "lol" Irlas MDEREP says.
[Spatial] Edsoni DE-Wanderhome says, "lol"
[Spatial] Xasko says, "yeah"
[Spatial] "lol" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn glares at you.
[Spatial] "hehehe" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Xasko says, "not funny"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "He COULD be here. I'd never know" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] You shrug.
[Spatial] "Should make up some armor modules or something that "Member of DENet - Quality Guarentied" and have all the member put them in there shops." Salena Kyle says. "/giggle"
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "nah, probably too busy with E3 stuff"
[Spatial] "yea...or playing with Space." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook. "GRRRRRRR"
[Spatial] "lol" Irlas MDEREP says.
[Spatial] ".." Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "didn't want to think about that...."
[Spatial] "by the way, I understand that Space is looking super cool. I guess we'll all see soon" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "anyway..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "I've got a friend going to E3, have to squeeze him for info when he gets back"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "does anyone have a question or want to say a few words?" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "well, folks, have to log -- thanks to Doughbacca for a great meeting" Arolena Eto says.
[Spatial] "my only question is, TH is not a dev or a programmer what does he have to do with E3 or is it just an excuse to take a week off? =)" Cosmmo Starwind'Scylla says.
[Spatial] "And apologies for asking so many questions" Arolena Eto says.
[Combat] Magz Hatcher stands up.
[Spatial] You wave to her.
[Spatial] ***zeby DoughBot Client has gone offline at Sun May 09 19:58:15 2004.
[Spatial] "community and public relations" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "thanks for coming!" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Arolena Eto waves.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "probably the bigest part of E3, most people don't want to talk to programmers"
[Spatial] "yea, he will be doing PR stuff, I'm sure..." Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "and for the most part programmers don't want to talk to people " Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "This coming week will likely have less in the way of Dev posting and info" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] ***konef DoughBot Client is online at Sun May 09 19:59:15 2004.
[Spatial] "but...it should be worth the wait, I expect" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "yea..." Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Edsoni DE-Wanderhome says, "but should be some buzz from the E3 reports coming out"
[Spatial] "I'm kind of surprised they're pushing the mini-publish out during E3" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Xasko says, "did TH ever post the Answers for the 19 questions?"
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "yea...maybe we should try to find an E3 DE Correspondent" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "the answer was "maybe"" Edsoni DE-Wanderhome says.
[Spatial] "I think he said they'd be done the 17th, didn't get them done before E3" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "Anyone know any who will be there?" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] "I know someone, told him to get me info" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] "Xasko, our answer is done. There were others that help up posting that" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn says, "probably won't get it till after he gets back (and most likely we've got the info from SOE)"
[Spatial] ***zeby DoughBot Client is online at Sun May 09 20:00:35 2004.
[Spatial] "WE might get it monday" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] You have new mail.
[Combat] You have new mail.
[GroupChat] You have new mail.
[Spatial] Xasko says, "I thought it was every week"
[Spatial] "supposed to be..." Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] "well..I don't know the exact time when I"ll get space info...but JustG seems to think it will be soon" Doughbacca says in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] ***jeggets DENet is online at Sun May 09 20:01:15 2004.
[Spatial] "TH got "smuggled" last week" Edsoni DE-Wanderhome says.
[Spatial] "they had a lot going on" Edsoni DE-Wanderhome says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "well...if no one has any other questions or wants to speak..I guess we're sort of done" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Doughbacca looks around for some kind of gavel.
[Spatial] "sort of?" Jenden Morn says.
[Spatial] Doughbacca says, "hehehe..." in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] Salena Kyle claps for you.
[Spatial] Ireu O'Neil offers doughbacca a gavel...
[Spatial] Xasko claps for you.
[Spatial] Jenden Morn claps for you.
[Spatial] Xasko hands you a broom. Get to it!
[Spatial] Doughbacca bangs the gavel on the official part of the meeting.
[Spatial] Micco Longwalker says, "Thanks for the info :-)"






** End Transmission **



/bow

Respectfully,




TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


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