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Thread: Please, give us the combat droids! And yes, DE only combat droids too!

ArdenStarmariner
Fri Oct 31, 2003 5:22 pm
#1

Sorry, but had to post to counter-balance the nay sayers. I'm sorry your so limited in your view of how the class should be played. But please don't keep trying to ruin it for those of us that are VERY EXCITED about this aspect being added to our class. If you absolutely hate it, don't use it. But stop telling us that want to that we can't be allowed to pursue it. It's entirely our decision if we chose to do it.

I for one thing it will make DE's the most verstile class in the game, allowing us to explore every activity that SWG allows. I'm pumped! Sorry your not.




Arden Starmariner - Master Jedi, Smugglers' Alliance Privateer Ace - Eclipse.
Nemok Starmariner - Elder Commando - Eclipse.
Droid-Creator
Fri Oct 31, 2003 5:27 pm
#2

I agree 157%


A DE only droid would not preclude other combat droids to sell. It bugs me those who want to remain pure crafters have no care about the fun or opinion of those who want to fight. I notice we aren't treating you with the same disrespect.


DE is not goint to remain rare once fixed, combat droids or not. I think many are afraid that they will have to stop price gouging if there is more competition, and yes DEs price gouge. If you have a couple of factories our droids are not worth 25-45k credits. I'm guilty of these prices too.....


I think that is why they afraid of attracting new DEs, we will have to drop some prices.




"Wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair and all of the terrible things that happen to us, come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the Universe." -Marcus Cole (Babylon 5, A Late Delivery from Avalon)
Droid-Creator
Fri Oct 31, 2003 5:32 pm
#3

you should be proud you were 1 starred by those who want to silence those they disagree with.



Cowards.




"Wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair and all of the terrible things that happen to us, come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the Universe." -Marcus Cole (Babylon 5, A Late Delivery from Avalon)
ArlanTH
Fri Oct 31, 2003 5:35 pm
#4






Droid-Creator wrote:

I agree 157%


A DE only droid would not preclude other combat droids to sell. It bugs me those who want to remain pure crafters have no care about the fun or opinion of those who want to fight. I notice we aren't treating you with the same disrespect.


DE is not goint to remain rare once fixed, combat droids or not. I think many are afraid that they will have to stop price gouging if there is more competition, and yes DEs price gouge. If you have a couple of factories our droids are not worth 25-45k credits. I'm guilty of these prices too.....


I think that is why they afraid of attracting new DEs, we will have to drop some prices.






Very well said. 90% of all DE's charge 2 to 3 times what they probably should for the resources used. The various excuses of all the time it takes and the number of skill points used are rediculous. If architects used the same pricing scheme as most DE's, no one but the super rich would be able to afford a house.




Arlan Starbright
Previously Mastered: Droid Engineer - Musician - Dancer - Entertainer - Image Designer - Merchant
Currently: Marksman - Rifleman - Politician - Medic - Scout

Founding Mayor of Orodon, Tatooine, Sunrunner


Nelus
Fri Oct 31, 2003 5:41 pm
#5

oh my how canpeople say dont give me power dont give me might? they either are not human if they are sain bout it or they are not affected and trying to keep others weak.


how can someone fear us overpowered DEs? oh my a mousedroid hit my leg at full speed (5mph)


if everyone can use a creature or a droid it would make no diffrence to leave droids out as everyone can use a creature. so nothing will change except fun will fanish.


every player can have atleast 1 pet (most combatproffessions will be alowed 2 someday)and if a DE (who spent alot of points in his profession which he cant use for combatskilled professions) has a slightly stronger pet they will still have no chance in pvp so why worry? oh no that DE killed a durni while making harvester runs eh?

Sodan-droiddreamer
Fri Oct 31, 2003 5:54 pm
#6

/agree


New combat droids! New combat droids for DEs!




Sodan Droiddreamer (GEGN)
Sodan's Exotic Droidgarten - In Bohemian Grove (Geigen Shuttle), Tatooine (6156 7275)
progman63
Sat Nov 01, 2003 5:11 am
#7






ArlanTH wrote:


Very well said. 90% of all DE's charge 2 to 3 times what they probably should for the resources used. The various excuses of all the time it takes and the number of skill points used are rediculous. If architects used the same pricing scheme as most DE's, no one but the super rich would be able to afford a house.





Be aware though, that no architect that I know of actually base their prices straight off of resource cost. If you look at the schematics, many times the price is twice what the resources would cost. Especially their high end items.


The price of many items depends on the perceived utility of that item. Not the cost.


As an example, look at Droid Storage Units.


They only take a few resources to create, but they're used in high end crafting stations with ratings as high as 40 that sell for 20k or 30k. Many people only sell the storage units for 200cr because they feel that's a good price for the resources used. Yet I see junk crafting stations sell for only 2kto 3k with -10 ratings using basically the same resources that the high end crafting stations to create.


Now, how much would you charge for something that can increase the rating of a crafting station from -10 which sell for 3k to 40 which sell for 20k???


200cr? I don't think so. The item adds so much benefit to the finished product that they should sell for alot more. If for no other reason, if you want to be greedy, than you get a cut from someone making that much money using the item you created.


I, and many others, will charge 1000cr for a Droid Storage Unit, and some people I've seen charge 5k, because it's worth it to the people creating these high end crafting stations. And they'll make plenty of money off their own sales. That price won't kill them. It's still reasonable due to the benefit it provides and the sale price of these super stations.



Believe me, I know. Tryrunning a RL business with someone who vehemently clings to the 'cost' method of pricing no matter what the value of the finished product is. We've practically gone out of business providing our customers with quality products for next to nothing. Yeah, I'm sure our customers appreciated the dirt cheap discounts we provide. But it doesn't pay the electric bill or the rent.....









"When Sony and Lucas set out, we said, How can we do this and not make another EQ? We didn't want it to be all about Luke, or combat, or lock our players into a class. So we created a system that would allow players to switch professions during the game, and there would be a lot of gameplay around making that change. If you want to go from architect to scout we've created a system to make that happen."
Julio Torres


radops
Sat Nov 01, 2003 5:30 am
#8

I agree we could use more combat droids, but bugs need to be fixed. The thing i don't understand is that they are turning us into CH's. Plain and simple. Can a weapons smith use his high end rifles? Only if he is a rifleman with the cert. I think making us a creature handler class is a big mistake. IF they want a droid handler profession then make one, don't change a crafter to a hybrid, it doesn't make any sense, none at all, not to mention it will severly impact what ever sales we have left, everyone will be going for the DE novice. I beg, keep us a technical crafting class, not a technical creature handler, if people want to be ch's they can go the ch route. Or they could go the DH <droid handler> route instead. Crafters are supposed to be that.. Crafters! i'm very dissapointed in the whole thing.



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HamsterPimp
Tue Nov 04, 2003 1:51 am
#9

Fine then stop CH from useing the pets they tame!!!


Any crafter should be able to use any item he or she or it makes!!!





The Master Droid Engineer Profession Needs to be fixed before any more of my friends leave the game forever!!
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