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Thread: Trying to excercise restraint...

MrTrag
Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:04 pm
#1

If I said now what I really wanted to say, I'm sure it would just result in a banning of some form. Let me just say that this fiasco deserves a hot-fix if anything ever did, but I'm not going to hold my breath. I know I should be used to it by now, but I never though they would let a profession get this broken. Thanks to Drashkk for pointing out these bugs on TC (before they took it down), but I'm sorry your efforts were in vain.


Trag

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Jenden
Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:15 pm
#2

I made sure to put the issue in enough places that its definately getting seen by the devs (multiple times). While it needs to be hotfixed ASAP, it isn't the worst bug we've had. There was one time we just couldn't craft droids.



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MeciniaLua
Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:18 pm
#3

Tailor and Armorsmith been this way for almost 2 months, still you think they'd learn from that fiasco. I hope you get this fixed soon.



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Corran950
Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:20 pm
#4


im in complete agreeance. they sould of made the pet system and droid system comlpetly seperate. why do all the star wars games i like have to get messed up? WEG had a exelent RPG, then the company went bankrupt and lost the licence to do Star Wars, WotC (owns Magic and DnD)came along and made a joke of a Star Wars game DnD in Space.


SOE is doing the samething they are taking there flagship game and superimposing it onto their other games because of the almighty $.


sorry


/rantOff

Message Edited by Corran950 on 08-04-2005 05:21 PM



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Jenden
Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:23 pm
#5



Corran950 wrote:

im in complete agreeance. they sould of made the pet system and droid system comlpetly seperate. why do all the star wars games i like have to get messed up? WEG had a exelent RPG, then the company went bankrupt and lost the licence to do Star Wars, WotC (owns Magic and DnD)came along and made a joke of a Star Wars game DnD in Space.

SOE is doing the samething they are taking there flagship game and superimposing it onto their other games because of the almighty $.

sorry
/rantOff

Message Edited by Corran950 on 08-04-2005 05:21 PM




WEG star wars is excellent stuff... I still usually manage to get in weekly games during the summer, plus about 4 straight days of it during gaming conventions.



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MrTrag
Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:41 pm
#6






Jenden wrote:
I made sure to put the issue in enough places that its definately getting seen by the devs (multiple times). While it needs to be hotfixed ASAP, it isn't the worst bug we've had. There was one time we just couldn't craft droids.





Thanks, Jenden. I'm sure you are doing all you can do. I just don't have much hopes we will see a response though. It would be comforting to see Keldarin (sp?) post in here to let us know that they are working on a fix and making it a priority.


I don't see how SOE can push broken product out to their customers time and time again. It is our fault I guess because we keep playing, but there isn't any other alternative for a Star Wars MMORPG either. If my business sent out broken product to its customers (especially knowingly doing it), we might as well not be sending it at all.... cause they won't be calling again.


I'm just upset mainly for my customers who have bought a product which now does not work as advertised. Even though it's not my fault, it still makes me feel like a shoddy, second rate crafter. Oh well, it's just a game and it's just pretend money.


Trag


Akkori
Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:57 pm
#7

I think LucasArts is more at fault for this kind of thing. THey are the ones that hold executive power over SOE and every single facet of the game, including release dates and such.



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Jedi will never be a starting profession...Looted items and quest items will never be better then crafted items, this is not a loot based game...CH will return shortly...CH and BE will not be back in game...Rangers are getting their revamp next!...The stealth system will not be changing in the spy expertise...Need any more examples of things the devs said that did not hold true?
GerrickDermeg
Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:08 pm
#8

I agree to an extent that LucasArts has some blame, however, they do not control coding developments on a daily basis. SOE made the decision to take this live, thus in my opinion they are of sole blame for this disaster.



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GnomeAd
Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:16 pm
#9






GerrickDermeg wrote:
I agree to an extent that LucasArts has some blame, however, they do not control coding developments on a daily basis. SOE made the decision to take this live, thus in my opinion they are of sole blame for this disaster.





Deadlines like this are usually set by LA. It's SOE's job to try to meet them. Remember the RotW/CU fiasco? If you compare the running of EQ/EQ2 (SOE only) to SWG (SOE/LA) you'll see a big difference in the way the games are run. Since the only difference is LA...
Drashk
Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:24 pm
#10




GnomeAd wrote:

Deadlines like this are usually set by LA. It's SOE's job to try to meet them. Remember the RotW/CU fiasco? If you compare the running of EQ/EQ2 (SOE only) to SWG (SOE/LA) you'll see a big difference in the way the games are run. Since the only difference is LA...



SOE actually pushed back the date that this was supposed to be relased.LA had an interview where the release date for this publish was listed asTuesday.





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Akkori
Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:13 pm
#11

Yeah, I shudder to think of how bad it would have been if the had published then. Then again, its only a couple days, so who knows. Regardless, LA call's the shots. Therefore, LA is to blame initially. Yes, the Devs DO bear some responsibility. They shoudl STOP messing around with friggin jedi, and focus exclusively on the rest of the game. AND they should downsize their publish goals so that what they *do* put out is 99% bug free.



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First Mayor of Tempest
Jaxian Bay
Elder DE, Rifleman, Swordsman

Jedi will never be a starting profession...Looted items and quest items will never be better then crafted items, this is not a loot based game...CH will return shortly...CH and BE will not be back in game...Rangers are getting their revamp next!...The stealth system will not be changing in the spy expertise...Need any more examples of things the devs said that did not hold true?
GerrickDermeg
Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:24 pm
#12

Then I have one simple question. Who WRITES the code? LA or SOE?



For the record I beta'ed EQ1 and played initial release and I thought it was bugged to hell. The only difference between EQ and SWG is the time it has been coded/ran.I dont claim to know...hehe well much of anything really, but in my opinion (only my opinion) LA has dates they want something released but SOE is responsible for the coding, or so I believe, and ultimately they are responsible for the grade-A shyte that has been dumped on this game over the past 2 years or so.


Just my opinion.




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*Retired Master Smuggler*
Currently Broken Droid Engineer
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MickGrey
Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:49 pm
#13






GerrickDermeg wrote:

Then I have one simple question. Who WRITES the code? LA or SOE?







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