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Thread: Just Took Up DE, need some advice...
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Vondeur
Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:27 am
#1
Hello everyone, I'm sure you get asked this all the time, I've been through about 5 pages of threads and found no posts about it, I even looked through the guide... What's good to craft when you're novice DE, that gives the most xp? I've been doing Mouse Droids and Storage Compartments... in practice mode... just wondering if there's something that gives more xp, thank you for any help...
Red9_Corran_Horn
Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:33 pm
#3
yeah, there are plenty of threads regarding how to grind your way there.... but in a nutshell:
MSE droids until BP2 i think?
manipulator arm packages to BP3
adv droid chassis to BP4
BLL adv chassis the rest of the way
(make sure you set up your factories for the BLL components well in advance or you'll be waiting a few days on them - especially the adv droid motivators and get your resources in before... you'll need ditamium steel and duralloy steel, oh, and extrusive ore for the manipulator arm packages
)
psikobunny
Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:09 pm
#4
Red9_Corran_Horn wrote:
yeah, there are plenty of threads regarding how to grind your way there.... but in a nutshell:
MSE droids until BP2 i think?
manipulator arm packages to BP3
adv droid chassis to BP4
BLL adv chassis the rest of the way
Did you actually use this grind? I know of no one who has actually taken step4. It takes far too much factory time and wastes boatloads of resource. If you're already rich sure, go for it, but its not really going to save any time.
Notes: step2 is optional, most people I know bite the bullet and stick with MSEs instead of bothering with Manipulators.
step3 should read advanced droid frames, not chassis. these are the workhorse of the DE trees. You get the best xp to resource ratio, and its simple to use any steel and any fiberplast.
Message Edited by psikobunny on 10-06-2004 09:09 PM
TeileIceblade
Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:14 pm
#5
I grinded most of it by starting with mouse droids and mse droid and til i could build adv droid frames units then did that to master. Only because it only requires 2 types of minerals.
Message Edited by TeileIceblade on 10-06-2004 06:14 PM
Jjiaah
Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:52 pm
#6
My grind:
MSE's
Manipulator Arm Package Sets
Advanced Droid Frame Units
BLL's are simply not worth the time and resources, imo. In the time it takes to factory run everything you need, you'd be long done with the MDE grind (assuming you had all the resources at hand from the get-go).
This also frees up your factories for the ever-important EGP's and EMM's.... the sooner you can start making those, the easier your life will be.
Straker_Atrella
Thu Oct 07, 2004 2:39 am
#7
Jjiaah wrote:
My grind:
MSE's
Manipulator Arm Package Sets
Advanced Droid Frame Units
BLL's are simply not worth the time and resources, imo. In the time it takes to factory run everything you need, you'd be long done with the MDE grind (assuming you had all the resources at hand from the get-go).
This also frees up your factories for the ever-important EGP's and EMM's.... the sooner you can start making those, the easier your life will be.
I need to agree. The Advanced Droid Frame units are the way to go.
The BLL path only saves you time when your doing the final XP part. Making all the factory parts and such can take longer then if you just did it with the Frame units. Plus you burn a ton of resources for the BLL.
Taril
Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:33 pm
#8
While crafting DE I took the time to map out the stuff. I did not take the time to do every craftable DE item but here it is. Hopefully it will give some insight to the DE crafting profession.
You 147 DE xp per MSE @ 68 RU. so you get 2.16176 xp per RU. You need 1,228,800 to master DE so thats 568,426 in resouces. 78% metal and the other 22% chemical. So if that much resouces at say 3 cpu. it would run you about 1,705,277 credits give or take to master DE with only MSEs. Now on to the Advanced Droid Frame Unit (DE 0002). This component gives 462 de crafting xp in practice mode. It takes 220 units (150 steel and 70 fiberplast). At this ratio you get 2.1 crafting xp per resource unit. This is exactly the same as the MSE droid deeds (147xp@68ru for 2.16 xp.) However, they take the same amount of time to cook in the tools: 29 seconds. So while it seems DE xp is capped at 2.1 xp per resource unit spent (in practice mode.) In the same time period, crafting the Advanced Droid Frame Unit will get you exactly 3.14 times the xp versus the MSE droid deeds. But at exactly a 3.235 increase in resources spent. Therefore, the xp to resource xp remains the same at 2.1 no matter what. Which seems to be across the board for DE (and probably works the same for other crafting professions.) So in the end you're only paying more credits (for resources) in order to spend less time crafting. So really its all a matter of whether you want to pay for it or not.
You 147 DE xp per MSE @ 68 RU. so you get 2.16176 xp per RU. You need 1,228,800 to master DE so thats 568,426 in resouces. 78% metal and the other 22% chemical. So if that much resouces at say 3 cpu. it would run you about 1,705,277 credits give or take to master DE with only MSEs. Now on to the Advanced Droid Frame Unit (DE 0002). This component gives 462 de crafting xp in practice mode. It takes 220 units (150 steel and 70 fiberplast). At this ratio you get 2.1 crafting xp per resource unit. This is exactly the same as the MSE droid deeds (147xp@68ru for 2.16 xp.) However, they take the same amount of time to cook in the tools: 29 seconds. So while it seems DE xp is capped at 2.1 xp per resource unit spent (in practice mode.) In the same time period, crafting the Advanced Droid Frame Unit will get you exactly 3.14 times the xp versus the MSE droid deeds. But at exactly a 3.235 increase in resources spent. Therefore, the xp to resource xp remains the same at 2.1 no matter what. Which seems to be across the board for DE (and probably works the same for other crafting professions.) So in the end you're only paying more credits (for resources) in order to spend less time crafting. So really its all a matter of whether you want to pay for it or not.
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