Droid Engineer Archive

Thread: Droid Terminal Sockets

Vampiric_Hoshi
Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:05 pm
#1

I don't know about the rest of you, but one thing that I've always wanted to see in a Star Wars game was the ability to have an R2 unit that could "log" into a database and retrive info for you. All sparred from the images of R2 hacking the Death Star database in ANH.


So I'm sitting there today looking at my trusty R2 (named Arwyn .. yes yes I know, I'm an immersion breaker) and thought "Man, it'd be really cool to see my droid whip out that device and start hacking a terminal in someone's house"


Which brings me to to this post and its title.


If droid sockets were added to terminals, what terminals do you think could be added and what information do you think it could give?


An idea would be that a droid with a data storage module could access data terminals and "download" stuff into the module which could then be readable and stored into disks or something.


Maybe these sockets could be added to bazaa's to allowthe droidto search the bazaar for a specific item which it would then save into a full list that the owner can later browse. For instance, telling the droid to search for all fiberplast entries in the entire galaxie's bazaar .. the droid then does an animation accessing the terminal andcreates an entry in its data module that lists what it was searching for.


Maybe every starport could have a socket that allows the droid to do the following;

- Become a bazaar terminal

- Become a mission terminal (of all types)

- Become a bank terminal


Maybe certain quest missions would require you to have a droid with a data module and the droid has to "hack" something to get you onto the next step.


Maybe a droid could "download" a map of all current positions of members of the same/enemy faction within a certain radius (or planet), allowing coordinated attacks.


Maybe it could allow a droid to download a full graphical map of the city its in.


Maybe you guys could think of more uses?



Abandon all hope
OrionsByte
Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:21 pm
#2

Boy I really like this idea. I think they'd have to be a bit limited... like bazaar terminals would be "read only" or something... you could browse and buy but couldn't sell items.


I like the idea of a hookup on a bazaar terminal that would let you browse player vendors. So your droid hooks up to the bazaar terminal (in a static city) and you can look for any specific item you want, using the same filters currently available on the bazaar. This would REALLY get merchants some business, and wouldn't require them to be in a high-traffic area.


Hmm.. I'm going to have to think more on this but I really like the potential for this concept...




Checking your spelling (and punctuation, too) will ensure that you're making sense to more than two people.
- +----=X Biranno Runningstar X=----+ -
Master Musician | Master Droid Engineer | 4020 Artisan | 0/0/3/1 Fencer | Alliance Ace Pilot
Emerald Ridge, Naboo ~ Naritus

-I support ATK play!
OrionsByte
Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:24 pm
#3






Vampiric_Hoshi wrote:


Maybe certain quest missions would require you to have a droid with a data module and the droid has to "hack" something to get you onto the next step.





I've thought about this before too but I don't think the DEVs would go for it... requiring a specific player-made item to complete a quest would be "game-breaking." Maybe if it made it easier it would work...



Checking your spelling (and punctuation, too) will ensure that you're making sense to more than two people.
- +----=X Biranno Runningstar X=----+ -
Master Musician | Master Droid Engineer | 4020 Artisan | 0/0/3/1 Fencer | Alliance Ace Pilot
Emerald Ridge, Naboo ~ Naritus

-I support ATK play!
Mightion
Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:25 pm
#4

I like this idea too. Just as long as my R3 doesn't fill his datapad with Treadwell pr0n....


Seriously, I could write a big huge list of ideas for droids and data terminals, including the ever popular "remote harvester status check"....






Mightion Defensor
Flashlight-wielding Padawan Learner
Banshee XVI, Avatars, Tarquinas Server

"...if one guy calls you a Hutt, ignore it. If a second calls you a Hutt, begin to wonder. If a third calls you a Hutt, buy a drool bucket and start stockpiling spice." - Corran Horn
OrionsByte
Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:41 pm
#5

I think what I like the most about the way this was presented is the fact that the droid needs to be near a terminal in order for it to function. It takes away some of the "checkers..."


For example, being able to check harvester status by remote at any given time is a bit much, but the ability to pull out a droid, find a data terminal, and use that combo to check harvester status would be a bit more realistic. Maybe in that case (harvesters) you'd have to use your house terminal, since it's unlikely that a public terminal would have any information about your personal harvester.


If we really wanted to go for broke, then lower quality data modules (or lesser experimented ones) would not provide as much information as a high quality one would.


This makes me smile...





Checking your spelling (and punctuation, too) will ensure that you're making sense to more than two people.
- +----=X Biranno Runningstar X=----+ -
Master Musician | Master Droid Engineer | 4020 Artisan | 0/0/3/1 Fencer | Alliance Ace Pilot
Emerald Ridge, Naboo ~ Naritus

-I support ATK play!
Drashk
Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:17 pm
#6

I really like the idea of giving any droid the ability to interact with terminals and such, however there are quite a few suggestions that have been made that I don't think can be accomplished due to technology and the way the game is programmed.


I'm not 100% certain on this one, but I don't think that a droid with any kind of bazaar function is possible due to the way that the commerce market is handled. For instance, when ever a PC owned vendor is created, the ower must initialize the vendor before it can be used. I think the reason behind this is that the vendor is adding itself to a specific coordinate on the game server that allows it to keep track of items placed on the vendor. This could be part of the vendor bought item issue that effected many when they would cross server bounders many months back.


The Mission terminal idea might fall under this same example. 9 times out of 10 when ever there is a problem with the market there is usually also a problem with mission terminals, though this may only effect TC.


Remote veiwing the status of structures many not be possible as well, since it appears that the status information for a sturcture is directly linked to the structure and not the location of the structure.


There are many great ideas that I have seen, that would greatly benefit droid usage, but we all need to keep in mind the limitations on programing time, technology, and ease of implimentation.


Personally, I'm still hoping that the Data Terminal entry idea could pan out some day. E-mail is great an all, but having the ability to create an in game journal through the use of a Data Terminal, where you can store the files or transfer them to either a droid or disk has always appealed to me. This would be one of those 'low hanging fruit' items that would emerse the PC a little more in the game and would open up terrific RP doors.Imagine if RPers could create data disks, or store the data on a droid. Imagine if the data disks were a lootable item that could be removed from a PC corpse or extracted from a disabled droid, using your own droid.


Thanks for starting up this thread.I'll see if TH will take a look at it when he gets back. New content in the form of a Droid / Data terminal relationship would benefit both DEs and Architects and would go a long way in the route of making Droids more immersive, not to mention it would finally give Data Terminals an actual use.






Making SWG more Star Warsy. One droid at a time.
Vampiric_Hoshi
Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:21 am
#7

Well,player vendors and (sadly) harvesters are only active in-world while someone is withina certain distance from them. So really, thats something beyound us ... but I think the ability to turn a droid into a "roaming mission terminal" is certainly not impossible.


If you consider mission terminals currently, they exist in every city and can even be created in player cities. They don't draw from "live info" they run a mission script that generates missions on-the-fly.


If you then consider that a droid, with a data module, would have to access a droid socket in a static location to work, its technologicaly no different to you accessing a mission terminal. It just feels more free because its more readily available (in theory).


But this really has no benefits on its own ... there always mission terminals near starports anyway. But maybe the quality of the droid's data module determines the price missions are. For instance, a quality 10 module would work like a smugler hacking a terminal and produce missions with twice the pay.


My fondest idea though is it interacting with the bazaar and making a search a little more user friendly. As a DE I often find myself browsing the bazaar for hours trying to find lidium extrusive ore and duralloy steel ... if a droid could access a bazaar and find it for you, then list items that ONLY match what you were searching for, it would improve the vendor system greatly. Technologicaly, all your droid would be doing is initiating a search of the commodoties database (which is all the bazaar is doing) with a more refined search. Again, maybe the quality of the data module could define the success of the search.



Abandon all hope
Wulfman_GA
Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:08 am
#8

Well, giving the data module in a droid a better purpose would be very good and I like the idea of accessing ports in a city. Now, another option would be that a droid with a data module can access a port and actually offer services. Meaning that the droid could maybe offer player mission waypoints, player event waypoints or just a shop add.


If the droid must be plugged to a port to do that, it may be possible to limit the amount of droids standing around doing this and maybe a timelimit would help here as well.


To my mind that woudl add to SWG, as droids certainly could have more different uses (even after the upcomming update) and I miss some sort of a in game message / mission board for players as well. So combining it and maybe even restricting access to the droid data (as you would do for your house/shop) may be a neat thing.




Wulfman, Imperial Ace Pilot and Officer
Mayor of Pax Imperia, the loyal Imperial City on Corellia
Recruitment Officer of Mortis Insurrectum

Droida Ryll, the Droid Engineer
W-DES DROIDA the Droid Engineer
Pax Imperia -4760,2200, Corellia, Starport Kor Vella

Merlyn Gabriel: working for the empire... Daughter of the Empire
Bring back the Creature Handler and Teras Kasi profession!!

Zubulun_Mufasa
Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:52 am
#9

Just to add to the numbers... I really like this idea too.



Chilastra: Zubulun Mufasa
Sunrunner: Rhyne Leake
http://www.firetiger.net/
ulu
Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:35 am
#10

I too think this idea is solid. Everytime you are in town you connect to the bazaar and "update" the items inside.
Vampiric_Hoshi
Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:44 am
#11

BTW, I'd just like to add that the device R2 uses to connect to this port already exists in your R-series droids. If you zoom your camera into the droid you will see it contains two retractable arms inside and its 3rd foot. One arm is the rotating blade R2 uses on Endor in ROTJ (wouldnt surprise me if this is the "weapon" R-series droids will use) and the other is the long cylindrical data arm ... so as far as animating your R-series connecting to sockets, the artwork is already there they just need to hook it up to an animation.



Abandon all hope
Shian_Tavkin
Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:06 pm
#12

Now a Droid that could plug into a travel terminal and buy a series of travel tickets (Lok to Yavin for example) would be a seller.


I dont suggest a single flight..I think thats beyound current technology and bypasses the 'Dev desired' waiting times, but to avoid that frantic run to a terminal on each of the stopover planets would be a great benefit.


2c






Shian -- Master Droid Engineer/ Master Artisan
Page 1 of 1
Previous Next