Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: Stealth Nerf Warning
Lonkley wrote:
Ok, bit ofa misnomer title, but i got your attention didnt I?
I just wanted to point out that we have been asking for experimentation to mean something for months. That if the devs do implement experimentation, it is VERY likely that resources, and their required property mixes will likely change in existing schematics (ala the DSC). Its a by product to be expected for adding experimentation to droids.
So here's my advice. If you have a stockpile of material to be used for a purpose, use it, because it may have different results next month (for better or for worse).
Personally, I think the change for the DSC's was made because of the vehicle paint kits - if it was just OQ, there would be a lot more 99% paint kits out there.
If my other material requirements get changed, I'll cross that bridge when I get there...
In light of Today's TH posts I would again ask DE's rethink this through.
There is no need to change resource requirements. But that is no guarantee that it wont be changed. To me the DSC changing to OQ/Cond makes sense, because its harder to do. It makes having the best materials important, and I can understand how TH (in a 7 degrees of seperation way) can say that we asked for it. We did. Its called unexpected consequences.
If you want differences between probots, you think that all thats going to matter is High OQ Fiberplast? and whether you have 10 experimentation points?
No, they are going to diversify the resource requirements, and probably create sacrifices.
For instance, armor uses OQ/Mall for durability and OQ/SR for Resistances. You have to choose which you want to make better, and use the appropriate material.
I can see where some day droids will reach the same thing.
Want more HAM, that'll be one combo, want more damage, thats another, want it faster? another combo.
"If you want differences between probots, you think that all thats going to matter is High OQ Fiberplast?"
Yep, they'll make us work for that extra two points of HAM. 
Lonkley wrote:
In light of Today's TH posts I would again ask DE's rethink this through.
There is no need to change resource requirements. But that is no guarantee that it wont be changed. To me the DSC changing to OQ/Cond makes sense, because its harder to do. It makes having the best materials important, and I can understand how TH (in a 7 degrees of seperation way) can say that we asked for it. We did. Its called unexpected consequences.
If you want differences between probots, you think that all thats going to matter is High OQ Fiberplast? and whether you have 10 experimentation points?
No, they are going to diversify the resource requirements, and probably create sacrifices.
For instance, armor uses OQ/Mall for durability and OQ/SR for Resistances. You have to choose which you want to make better, and use the appropriate material.
I can see where some day droids will reach the same thing.
Want more HAM, that'll be one combo, want more damage, thats another, want it faster? another combo.
Squegul wrote:
That's fine, but at least own up to the fact they wanted to make it harder and just say so. Just saying moving it to DE caused it's stats to change is bogus, they did it by hand on purpose to make it harder. Just say so. We can handle it. It's just a ridiculous statement to say they had no other alternative. Half of a droid comes from Electronics components made by artisans. Electronics, droids, pretty similair to me. Why should the special qualities be so different? Especially since the component didn't change functionally at all. It is the samecomponent it always was, does the same stuff it always did, but now it is made differently? I am all for the dev's changing stuff just cuz they can or cuz they have deeper issue reasons to do so, but don't patronize us by saying you had no choice and it isn't that easy. I dunno, I don't even make the stupid things, just killing time at work. =) hehe...
CapnSteve wrote:
"If you want differences between probots, you think that all thats going to matter is High OQ Fiberplast?"
Yep, they'll make us work for that extra two points of HAM.
Gribnitz wrote:
CapnSteve wrote:
"If you want differences between probots, you think that all thats going to matter is High OQ Fiberplast?"
Yep, they'll make us work for that extra two points of HAM.
Hmmm, UNLESS after they put experimentation in they start at 700 HAM and we can experiment them up to 820 !! Bah!!! Do I run off those last 50 frames I have and get 820 HAM or wait and see if they actually increase the experimentation over 820 with really good resources ?? Enough to make the last of my hair fall out !
but thats exactly what im saying. Roll your dice, take your chances.
(btw, i can very well imagine 700 base, 830 max.
Squegel, please refer to my post else-thread about the 'they did this by hand' thought...its bogus, stop saying the only logical way to run a database is bogus 
You seem a great guy, but I don't think you understand relational databases at all here.
I'm hoping we do see some resource changes so we can work on one stat and not another and other ways around, adds to the complexity and the ability to customize...heck, makes it so we are honestly customizing combat droids, whereas otherwise there'd be no real customization at all...'you want a level 1 combat module or a level 6?'....duh....hrm, what a choice I am REALLY looking forward to these changes and things to make it more challenging. I can't waitto feel like I did back when I was a weaponsmith, where I could say 'I've made this, and it is a good product, because I put in the effort to make it one'. Absolutely awesome. I hope you all are as excited as I am.