Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: NO COMBAT ASTROMECHS, GIVE US CL-10 ROGER-ROGER DROIDS!
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Barfalomue
Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:31 pm
#1
Jnath wrote:
/applaud
Why can't people like you, with imagination work at SOE. That would be much better than seeing a bunch of R3s rolling around blasting things.
/thanks.... I wander that myself. 
I forgot one thing. Allow the DE who builds the Roger-Roger droids to attach a basic "Marksman" weapon to the Droid. No krayt weapons or special production weapons...just basic weapons such as CL-20 Rifle, DH-17 Carbine, Pistol, etc... This would then play into how that droid assaults. If it has a rifle, it would be long range. If it has a pistol, it might be a more 'up-close' type of droid. I would like to see the skins for the droids match the weapon you install also.
And for co-player support, allow a DE to swap the weapon out for a customer. So let's say they use a Roger-Roger droid with a Rifle for a while and decide they dislike it. So, they come back to the DE to swap the weapon out. Or this could be used to upgrade the droid as well. maybe the player finds a better pistol or something and wants the droid to use IT rather than the current one.
Something about the command structure I failed to mention as well. If you do give your Roger-Roger droids a command structure (changeable/removeable as the player wishes), you then only give commands to the Command Droid. It then leads the team into battle. If you tell it to pull out, it relays that message to all the other droids. So in essense, you are only controllling one droid, making it a bit easier for you, rather than trying to remember what command you set up for what droid, etc...
Then, once you make one Roger-Roger droid the commander, you have new programmablecommands to it such as:
Regroup Team (this would be used to have the commander droid tell its team to 'return to the line,' if you will. Kind of a 'Follow' command for the group. Get them to stop attacking, if they are, and follow you, the player)
Pull back weakened droids (this would be used to have the commander droid tell weakened droids to pull back)
Healthier Droids, move in (this would be used to have the commander droid tell the healthier droids to get closer to take hits)
Fight to the death (this would be used to have the commander droid tell its team to not run even if they become near incapped)
Run when injured (this would be used to have the commander droid tell its weakened droids to run for cover when weakened, about the same as "pull back weakened droids," but these droids would run, run, run away as far as they can)
Get team in Wedge Formation (this would be used to have the commander droid tell its team to move into this formation)
Get team in Column Formation (this would be used to have the commander droid tell its team to move into this formation)
Radio for Medic Droid when needed (this would be used to have the commander droid tell its team to call for help if it becomes in dire need of repair)
Sneak Assault (this would be used to have the commander droid tell its team use a sneak assault tactic, where they would all get in position for the best shot and all take that shot at once, possibly bringing down the foe in one swift kick. This assault is only available as a 'first strike.' If the droids are already engaged in combat and you tell the commander droid to do this, he will relay a message to the player stating: "Sir, we are under attack, that tactic is not available at the moment.")
Full FledgedAssault (this would be used to have the commander droid tell its team use an 'all-out,' Rambo assault tactic, where they would all start shooting with no specific tactic or plan, which could cause confusion to their team, but is just a quick way of taking down a foe. This can be used as a 'first strike' tactic or a secondary followthrough)
Attack-All Assault (this would be used to have the commander droid tell its team to shoot any attackable NPC or other player in sight. This would be good in PvP battles, or if you are wanting to take down a durni lair and not tell them to attack each durni individually. They will just keep shooting anything until you, the player, tells the commander to 'Regroup' or do something else. This can be used as a 'first-strike' tactic or a secondary followthrough)
Attack strongest to weakest (this would be used to have the commander droid tell its team use an assault tactic which would have the commander droid assess the situation and relay messages {in spatial so you can see the action} to its team telling them to attack a group of enemies in a certain order. For example: If you are attacking a Sharnaff Lair, they will go after the Bulls before they go after the standard or Female. They will continue to attack until you tell them to Regroup or do something else. This can be used as a 'first-strike' tactic or a secondary followthrough)
Support Assault Team (this would be used to have the commander droid tell its team to offer support to another player's team by healing those needed, taking blows from those who are injured, etc... after the other player does 'befriend' to this player. This would be envoked by selecting the other team's commander droid and issuing the command)
Bring me Damaged Droids (this would be used to have the commander droid tell its team drag any of the incapped droids to you, the player when they fall in battle, allowing you to repair them, or store them when the time-restraint permits.)
There are many other commands that could be added....but you can see where I am going with this. Give droids the life they deserve.Droids are more than a simple Meat Wall that the creature pets have taken part of in this game.
ulu
Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:02 pm
#2
While I think your idea is good for the DE class I must play the devil's advocate and say what you are asking for seems like a LOT of dev work. And as we all know from the past this is usually something that they shy away from. The so called "Roger-Roger" droids are called battle droids (for future reference).
To be on the bit more realistic side I too would like to see the Battle Droids, but controlled with the same commands we can control other pets. Seemingly all the devs would need to do is put in the skin and the schematic.
Thoughtprovoker
Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:06 pm
#3
Well done! That is such a brilliant idea!
Just imagine giving your droid a meele weapon or better yet, unarmed droids!
Barfalomue
Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:09 pm
#4
There goes the 1-star wonder again. I wish I knew who it was.
ulu wrote:
While I think your idea is good for the DE class I must play the devil's advocate and say what you are asking for seems like a LOT of dev work. And as we all know from the past this is usually something that they shy away from. The so called "Roger-Roger" droids are called battle droids (for future reference).
To be on the bit more realistic side I too would like to see the Battle Droids, but controlled with the same commands we can control other pets. Seemingly all the devs would need to do is put in the skin and the schematic.
So, you are condoning their laziness? Thanks. 
Very few of us here in the DE community want Droids to be a Creature Handler clone. We want something a bit more original. Please check the strings which have been posted over the last 1-2 months. You will see our ideas in abundance which we gave to the moderators to relay to the DEVs.
As far as calling Roger-Roger droids "Battle Droids" well...not everyone knows that. Some people may mistake the words "Battle Droid" for a Droideka. I don't want to give the Moderators, erm...readers... ( ) any excuse to misunderstand me. Everyone knows what a Roger-Roger droid is when you refer to them like that. If you don't you shouldn't be playing this game. Or, at minimum, you shouldn't be reading the DE forum.
) any excuse to misunderstand me. Everyone knows what a Roger-Roger droid is when you refer to them like that. If you don't you shouldn't be playing this game. Or, at minimum, you shouldn't be reading the DE forum.
Galates
Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:41 pm
#5
As far as calling Roger-Roger droids "Battle Droids" well...not everyone knows that. Some people may mistake the words "Battle Droid" for a Droideka.
I would be one of those people. Don't pop in here very often, but the original post was a hoot. I'd buy/run a few just for kicks.
One question though- isnt the time-line wrong for the Roger-Roger droids? Wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. Like I say, the idea cracked me up.
"durni's beware!"
"Roger-Roger"
starwarsgalaxyman
Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:43 pm
#6
/cheer
Wow great idea man thatd be like the droid from KOTR that you can buy. itd be nice to be able to craft and use lil guys with an attitude 
Hurin
Droid Engy among other things
Gribnitz
Mon Mar 01, 2004 8:31 pm
#7
They should hire you to write the "talkie" droid dialouge. This is in-line with the post I made many moons ago about making the talking droids a more immersive part of the game.Since combat is the only place you ever see them spouting off, a lot of people never get to haer them speaking.
Barfalomue
Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:47 am
#8
Astromech's should only be able to defend with its arc welder, nothing more. Next thing you know, they willallow an R2 unit to bring its holo-projection program online and envoke a live Jedi to swoop his Light Saber & kill all in sight. Give me a break.
In my opinion, I would rather take Roger-Roger droids over any other CL-10 combat droid. They look kewler and actually would be doing what they are designed to do.
I say allow anyone to have 2 of these type of droids out and when they attack, they attack in a combat-type assault. Relaying messages in spatial to one another:
Droid 1: "Enemy is falling to our assault. T10, move in for the kill."
Droid 2: "Roger Roger."
Droid 1: "T10, your condition is lowering, pull away, I will move in."
Droid 2: "Roger Roger T11; thank you sir!"
Droid 1: "T11 reporting, in need of repair."
Droid 2: "<player name>, please respond. T11 in need of repair package at coordinates xxxx,xxxx."
Droid 1: "T10, prepare for assault on Durni Lair. Cover me" (T10 then moves in firing first, causing reflex attack by durni to focus on it, rather than T11)
This would give me great entertainment to watch the droids pull off a tactical assault, and actually move around the screen to match their tactics. When one tells the other to move away, it does...rather than just standing there.
Shooting while on the run would be another thing I would like to see. Make them move around a little while they are in combat.
You could add to the entertainment of this by allowing personality chips to be used. I would love to see a Roger-Roger droid with a Stupid Personality Chip to be in charge of another with a Geeky Personality Chip. LOL.
That brings me to my next point. Allow players to give their droids a command structure. Like I said one droid controlling another. Kind of like a miniature platoon. A commander and a soldier.
Why allow 2 you ask? Well, Roger-Roger droids are team droids. They are not solo-ists by any means. They work better in groups. If and when the DEVs enact some type of Droid Commander or Certs for CL-10+ droids, allow 3, 4 or even 5 Roger-Roger droids to be controlled at once, I would love to sit back and watch them tactfully take down a Rancor.
Possibly even create a medic-type of Roger-Roger droid that you can load up with Droid Repair Kits and they run around healing the other Roger-Roger droids that you own, or those of someone you have 'Befriended' the droid to.
To sum it up:
THIS WOULD JUST BE AWESOME!
What do you all think?
Jnath
Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:58 am
#9
/applaud
Why can't people like you, with imagination work at SOE. That would be much better than seeing a bunch of R3s rolling around blasting things.
Barfalomue
Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:35 am
#10
Timeline out of place? Sure, a little bit. These would not be the prestine Roger-Roger droids you are used to from the movies. I think the skins should make them look old and worn out, as they are an old design. BUT....Where in the movies did you see so many creatures such as the CH in the game? I don't think the DEVs care about relevance to the movies...adding a few kewl droids like this would not be an issue, I don't think anyway. Anything at this point would bea PLUS.
Galates wrote:
One question though- isnt the time-line wrong for the Roger-Roger droids? Wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. Like I say, the idea cracked me up.
"durni's beware!"
"Roger-Roger"
Barfalomue
Fri Mar 26, 2004 11:37 am
#11
/BUMP
Just a refreshing idea brought back to life since the thought of "Multiple CL10 Pets called" is on the table. This would be an awesome incorporation to take advantage of that idea.
Barfalomue
Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:28 pm
#12
Ye, a lot of people here have great ideas. Kollos had a whole line of great ideas. This particular idea would make things fun. I think very fun, in fact.
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