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Thread: When was the Last time you failed

Ke_la
Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:12 pm
#1

Just a general Question but I seem to get a Crit Fail on experimenting rather frequantly(like everyone it seems to come in batchs) but I was wondering sence becoming master when was the last time you accually "Faild" and experiment or even had just a "success" not Great or Amazing. just curous. Because I would asume that making a little mistake would be more likly then a Major one at master(not that I am advocating more Falures mind you personally 3 to 1 Crit. Fails to there opisite Amazing success is just wrong). I mean it takes 2 amazings to over come on Crit Fail




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TheRealTK421
Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:22 pm
#2

I almost always see Greats and Amazings and not too many of anything else....but they do happen.

Tip: Use the best crafting tools you can and don't let them decay.


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MrWizzard
Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:07 am
#3



I had a success today. It lowered the % some


edit: and they're not often.. I use a 15.00 crafting tool at 100% and a 45.00FR crafting station.... and on big items (final crafts) I use pyollian cake and bespin port, oh and I craft in a Research Center

Message Edited by MrWizzard on 06-23-2004 12:16 PM



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Gavvot
Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:38 am
#4

Yesterday.

I only have 14.93 tool, and I fail about every single day I craft something.
Sometimes it worst when I wear my assembly clothes.



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Vampiric_Hoshi
Wed Jun 23, 2004 3:13 am
#5

MrWizard wrote:

"and they're not often.. I use a 15.00 crafting tool at 100% and a 45.00FR crafting station.... and on big items (final crafts) I use pyollian cake and bespin port"


Shame on you! You should be using a droid with a crafting station module not a private crafting station! Go home and feel ashamed. ASHAMED.


Seriously though, a nice (and very attractive woot!) tailor friend of mine gave me one of those DE crafting belts with 4 slots so I slapped 4 DE experimentation tapes into it. I now have about an extra 120 on most of the DE stats while wearing the belt so I vary rarely get any problems with experimenting and even overal crit failures seemed to be reduced while wearing the belt. An example would be:


While crafting 6 combat modules (without the belt) I would average atleast 1 critical failure and atleast 2 experiment failures (using 900+ copper). However, while crafting it WITH the belt I average NO criticial failures and only 1 experiment failure.


Whether this is a coincidinc (i love that word) cus I too have my doubts about whether the belt even works... well hey I didn't pay for it so



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Gavvot
Wed Jun 23, 2004 3:20 am
#6

I though skill tapes of the same kind didn't stack on the smale clothes????

Meaning 4 DE experiment on the belt = only the highest is used.

OR they fixed that?



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OckVofad
Wed Jun 23, 2004 5:30 am
#7

Last night I crafted for about an hour and a half and had2-3 crit fails while experimenting and one crit fail during assembly of a module.


Most of the time I get good to great successes and the occasional amazing success. I definately have way more successes than failures.


I use a 13.?? crafting tool and a 44.96 private crafting station. No skill tapes. I just got a droidsmith belt but havent used it yet.





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MrWizzard
Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:18 am
#8

why would i use a droid crafting station when we finally know that they dont do anything?

on another note, I actually got an exceptional success last friday on a creature harvest module.... it came out at 95% (19) instead of 86, but in the excitement I clicked create prototype instead of schematic... oh well



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MachineZed
Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:25 am
#9

I don't know what I use, but I rarely have failures in my house, but I failed constantly in my vendor tent, it could have something to do with the crafting stations, it could have to do with the house being in a player city. Doesn't really matter to me. They both sell, eventually.


On a side note I still occassionally make 17 rated Harvestor modules after a Failure (when level 17 is the highest I can make). To bad I don't have any skill tapes they might have turned out to be perfect 20s. meh



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Vampiric_Hoshi
Wed Jun 23, 2004 3:37 pm
#10

"why would i use a droid crafting station when we finally know that they dont do anything"


You're in a "droid engineer" forum and "droid engineers" make "droid crafting stations" as aposed to "architects" that make "private crafting stations". To say you'd use a private crafting station over a droid on the droid forums is sacralidge! Burn that man! Burn him I say!



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MrWizzard
Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:22 pm
#11


Im also an architect.... and an artisan, which incidentally is what type of experimentation crafting stations use... go figure =P


edit: i use one of my crafting droids to make schematics when im near my factories and the experimentation isnt important...

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DroidTech666
Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:55 pm
#12

Does the Pyollian Cake for Assembly and Bespin Port for Experimentation seem to help? I can max out the experimentation boxes most of the time, so would the initial assembly roll boost give you a better benefit?

I haven't tried either of the foods while crafting yet. Never noticed it on any Chef vendors. Guess I'll have to track down a non-holo grinding Chef to see if they can make some.

My player city used to be a Research Center, so I was happy to craft in town back then. Not too happy with them since then. They switched to a Job Market for more money from missions for the last couple of months...




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Gribnitz
Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:54 pm
#13






MrWizzard wrote:

why would i use a droid crafting station when we finally know that they dont do anything?

on another note, I actually got an exceptional success last friday on a creature harvest module.... it came out at 95% (19) instead of 86, but in the excitement I clicked create prototype instead of schematic... oh well







Was it an exceptional success or an amazing success at assembly ? Words are important since I am still trying to get this to work for me without success. I don't think I have ever seen an exceptional success on assembly. Get lots of amazing assemblies, but nothing ever changes on my %.


Oh, and I have 143 assembly skill and 129 experimentation when using food. My tools are 14.22 I think and my craft station is 42.85. I still get the critical failures from time to time, but they seem to be a lot lower now that I wear my DE zoot suit all the time.




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