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Thread: We need to be able to store more Droids!

Kniol
Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:05 pm
#1

Okay, so I've taken up a little CH as a side line. I'm only at 0-1-1-1 so far, and can already store 8 (EIGHT) creatures in my datapad!


So why can DE's not have additional droids? The reasoning behind CH's being able to get additional pets (up to a max of 16, I believe) is for them to be able to a) have a selection of "personal" pets to fight with (and they can have up to 3 out now) and b) to have a few on hand growing to full size to be able to sell.


So why can't DE's? We don't want to be a "mechanical" CH, but we do have the same needs in both fighting and selling that they do.




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Alristico
Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:29 pm
#2

isn't storage an issue? If we could store 8 droids thats a potential 80 extra space.



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Jenden
Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:33 pm
#3

It'll never happen due to the item storage in droids. Like the previous poster said, even just3 more droids gives us 30 more inventory slots effectively, and that would never fly.



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Geevo
Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:44 am
#4

I am more curious why everyone can't call two droids? Luke had 3PO & R2 ... why can't we?



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Veers_Intrepid
Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:54 am
#5

well as long every player can store sam amount of droids, the storage isnt an inbalance thing imo.



but i agree with original poster totally i would love to have more then 5 droids in datapad and also i would like to have 2 droids out same time. limit it to 1 combat and 1 utility so its not inbalancing much and maybe make 2 out a DE only skill.


but most important is i would like to have 1 f every kind droid i can produce in datapad, i am DE since beta and i love droids (even if they were mostly useless, but heck they are more star wars like then boxing TKAs and such)


its pretty sad if a DE can have all his products to show customers in action. we waited so long for be useful and slowly getting to that point, but cant we pls store in datapad at least every model? means like 14 droids please?


i as DE would like to call every type i can make for my game fun and imersion. or let us store at least some somewhere. atm if i want a other droid i need to destroy an old one in datrapad, thats not nice.






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Gavvot
Wed Apr 14, 2004 3:16 am
#6



Geevo wrote:
I am more curious why everyone can't call two droids? Luke had 3PO & R2 ... why can't we?





Well Master CH can.
Maybe Luke was a master CH (a lot of things in this game would make sence if that's the case).



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Jenden
Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:08 am
#7






Veers_Intrepid wrote:

well as long every player can store sam amount of droids, the storage isnt an inbalance thing imo.



but i agree with original poster totally i would love to have more then 5 droids in datapad and also i would like to have 2 droids out same time. limit it to 1 combat and 1 utility so its not inbalancing much and maybe make 2 out a DE only skill.


but most important is i would like to have 1 f every kind droid i can produce in datapad, i am DE since beta and i love droids (even if they were mostly useless, but heck they are more star wars like then boxing TKAs and such)


its pretty sad if a DE can have all his products to show customers in action. we waited so long for be useful and slowly getting to that point, but cant we pls store in datapad at least every model? means like 14 droids please?


i as DE would like to call every type i can make for my game fun and imersion. or let us store at least some somewhere. atm if i want a other droid i need to destroy an old one in datrapad, thats not nice.








Don't get me wrong,I would like having one of each droid in my datapad, but they already have database issues and letting everyone store an additional 90 items (all of which might as well be in their inventory as far as accessiblity goes) on top of the 50 we already get from droids... not going to happen.



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Arcid
Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:36 am
#8

I think there's a fair case for having an extra 1 droid in the datapad, espescally with the semi-disposable exploding Droids fo smugglers and BHs, but It's a lower priority to me than the ability to have 2 droids out at once
Pallida
Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:37 am
#9






Jenden wrote:



Don't get me wrong,I would like having one of each droid in my datapad, but they already have database issues and letting everyone store an additional 90 items (all of which might as well be in their inventory as far as accessiblity goes) on top of the 50 we already get from droids... not going to happen.






Jenden... I am an Oracle DBA and have been so for the past 10 years... Oracle is capable of storing and manipulating a great deal of data across multiple clustered RDBMS servers... If the dev's have "database issues" I suspect it's nature is more in the area of hardware and infrastructure implementation (and probably general RDBMS Design for SWG)and that they can't/won't spend the money required to build/design the infrastructure/RDBMS appropriately. Kinda goes back to"flawed conceptualization and insufficient planning" stages I alluded to in an earlier post.


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Glantor
Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:50 am
#10

I do believe that we will be able to store more than 5 droids in the future, the moment Droid Commander is implemented. Otherwise the poor Commander who spent valuable skill points on the profession will still have only 5 droids possible in his datapad.


The commander possibly holding many storage droid may become an issue though. Unless the devs know for certain that commanders will only want the best combat droids in their inventory.


On the bright side, it may give commanders an additional profession . . . to act as mules!



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Akkori
Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:25 pm
#11

Yeah, we really need more droids in the datapad. I wish they would hire a team to come in and optimize that damn database! It has cuased so many problems in this game. Development directions have been influenced by this problem. When will we get decent house storage limits?


They could very easily fix the whole "datapad stoage" issue by restricting the Item storage module to droid chassis that can accomodate the number of items granted by the module. An MSE shoudl NOT be able to hold as many items as a BLL!! An MSE shoudl NOT be able to hold ANY items! A BLL should be able to hold 20 or 30. R-series should hold maybe 6-10 items. Humanoid shoudl hold 3-6 items. The CHASSIS should determine the storage capacity, not the module.


What this would do is make it much more expensive to have droid storage, since the bigger droid takesa LOT more to make them. You'd have to make decisions on what you want in the datapad.





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Jenden
Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:35 pm
#12






Akkori wrote:

Yeah, we really need more droids in the datapad. I wish they would hire a team to come in and optimize that damn database! It has cuased so many problems in this game. Development directions have been influenced by this problem. When will we get decent house storage limits?


They could very easily fix the whole "datapad stoage" issue by restricting the Item storage module to droid chassis that can accomodate the number of items granted by the module. An MSE shoudl NOT be able to hold as many items as a BLL!! An MSE shoudl NOT be able to hold ANY items! A BLL should be able to hold 20 or 30. R-series should hold maybe 6-10 items. Humanoid shoudl hold 3-6 items. The CHASSIS should determine the storage capacity, not the module.


What this would do is make it much more expensive to have droid storage, since the bigger droid takesa LOT more to make them. You'd have to make decisions on what you want in the datapad.








making it expensive doesn't really change anything. Right now money is nothing in this game. If you know what your doing you can get a couple hundred k fast. If your even too impatient for that, there's plenty of it on ebay too. While I do think chassis should determine the number of items, I don't think you can use that as an excuse to give people more storage.



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Deidre_DE
Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:55 pm
#13

R2D2 thought he belonged to Obi-Wan Kenobi.Obi-Wan used the /befriend command to send R2 trundling off after Luke. Luke was bugged and the befriend stuck when Obi-Wan was "logged off" by Vader. Luke was just cautious thereafter to never /release the little R2 unit.

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