Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: I attempt to do something productive and it was shut down. Details Inside.
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Barfalomue
Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:21 am
#1
Here is what I was posting in every galaxy forum:
My vote:
1. Droid Engineer
2. Design Artist
3. ...hmm guess there is only 2
What do you all think are the least cared about Professions by SOE? We are attempting to form a list so we can show it to the DEVs and our profession does not come off sounding like whining babies. So please, be sincere with your opinion.
Some of you might think DE is getting loving. But, please, read the update notes for the patch. Most of the things are bug fixes which should have been taken care of in Beta and there is really not very much new content to be added. In any case, it certainly does not live up to their hyped announcement of a "Droid Invasion." And, after nearly 6 months after the announcement, you would think they would have a bit more content than what they are proposing to release.
In any case, please post your 3 choices. No matter what the finding, I am going to present the findings to the PR guys.
Thanks.
I was beginning to get some really good feedback. And with the low number of DEs out there, we were getting a lot of support. No one got all mad. No one started ranting about SOE...they just posted their opinions.
Well, I get to Bria and GarVa shut me down. He went and deleted all my posts. Here is what transposed in our discussions:
(here is the one post there that has remained, but was locked: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Bria&message.id=332262 )
From: Barfalomue
To: Garva
Subject: My Closed Posts
Text:
Garva,
I am doing something SOE should have done long ago. A lot of people believe SOE is taking pick over professions. The findings of this would give SOE something to think about. They want to know what players want...well, wouldn't this be the best way?
Wouldn't it be more profitable for SOE to give attention to the professions the players feel need the most care?
I have seen worse posts go unnoticed by you guys. At least I am trying to attempt something productive for both the players and SOE.
From: GarVa
To: Barfalomue
Subject: re: My closed posts
Text:
Your post will not work because we have tried it, everyone's profession is most important to them, and only people that post vote. While they may not be a vocal majority and definitely in need of help, you would likely not find pikemen on a list made by players of what professions need the most help.
If you visit the profession forums you can see that people do list their concerns for their profession and they, for the most part get at least some sort of reply.
If you visit the profession forums you can see that people do list their concerns for their profession and they, for the most part get at least some sort of reply.
From: Barfalomue
To: GarVa
Subject: P.S.
Text:
P.S. Please take a look at the post on my own server forum. It has not incurred any outrage. Just players posting their ideas on what 3 professions could use the most help.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Tempest&message.id=80886
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Tempest&message.id=80886
From: GarVa
To: Barfalomue
Subject: re: P.S.
Text:
Then just keep it there, thats fine, I do not think you are very familiar with bria.
From: GarVa
To: Barfalomue
Subject: re: P.S.
Text:
And I did just go through your history, if you wish to be an instigator of issues you can just stop now, because you are just being disruptive in many of them.
From: Barfalomue
To: GarVa
Subject: re: P.S.
Text:
Are you telling me to stop posting this voting thread, or are you telling me to stop posting the SOE flames?
From: GarVa
To: Barfalomue
Subject: re: P.S.
Text:
Flames, you can have your voting thread in tempest where you first posted it, but do not spam every forum with it.
From: Barfalomue
To: GarVa
Subject: re: P.S.
Text:
It would not be a very good community opinion if it were singled to just one Galaxy Forum, that would not be a fair vote, now would it?
From: GarVa
To: Barfalomue
Subject: re: P.S.
Text:
You have the answer, to your question, if you want to post you do not need to post it in every forum, one forum will do.
He then proceeded to go through all my posts in the galaxies and delete them. Some of which had some very good input from the members.
So, it seems even with productive communication, they could not care less. They will shoot us in the air and watch us fall to the ground in flames.
I can sort of see his point, but I feel him deleting my posts was uncalled for. Make of it what you will. I am sure he will delete this post too. If he does, my feelings for this SWG team will fall to the ground in flames along with my posts.
kevincore
Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:26 am
#2
Lets all hear it for the SOE customer service, I tell ya, they are A1 in my book
umm no not really 
I guess this is why Blizzard and every other gaming companies games beat SWG by a landfall
Naufragus
Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:37 am
#4
Droid Engineer effects ALL of us. Most people are ineterested in what happens here. but i agree that anyone outside of say swordsman or pikeman or ranger give a wompats rats ass about what happens to that profession.
Shian_Tavkin
Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:37 am
#5
Barfalomue
While I am sure your heart is in the right place, I guess the fact that they will not allow spamming the same post across all forums is ok with me..sorry but I dont think it is the way to go, nor is it focussing anything.
I know you are enthusiastic and dedicated, but thats not the way the forums work anymore (hence the death of SWG-Discussions fourum)
Posting here is the right thing to do these days...
Sorry
2c from
Message Edited by Shian_Tavkin on 03-05-2004 09:39 AM
kevincore
Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:39 am
#6
too bad that any posts on these boards, or any others for that matter, will fall on deaf ears, err blind eyes. You know what I mean, no one will read them nor care
TheRealTK421
Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:40 am
#7
Barfalomue,
You had the best intentions...but GarVa lays down the law.
I think he was right to keep it confined. They obviously can't allow the kind of posts that you put forth or the boards would be teeming with thousands of such items.
You're best to keep it here or in Tempest, I'm betting.
Keep your 'fire'...just focus it a bit within the confines of what won't get deleted.
/bow
Respectfully,
You had the best intentions...but GarVa lays down the law.
I think he was right to keep it confined. They obviously can't allow the kind of posts that you put forth or the boards would be teeming with thousands of such items.
You're best to keep it here or in Tempest, I'm betting.
Keep your 'fire'...just focus it a bit within the confines of what won't get deleted.
/bow
Respectfully,
Barfalomue
Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:41 am
#8
Wow, he even deleted the post in the Tempest forum where he said it could stay. Thanks CSRs...
Again, lies....heh...I don't know what to say.
TheRealTK421
Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:44 am
#9
Kevincore,
kevincore wrote:
too bad that any posts on these boards, or any others for that matter, will fall on deaf ears, err blind eyes. You know what I mean, no one will read them nor care
They get read. They don't get answered often....but they DO get read.
/bow
Respectfully,
kevincore
Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:44 am
#10
Well Barf in keeping with there past track record, they had to go back on their word ya know.....or else something would be seriously wrong
kevincore
Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:45 am
#11
RealTK, you are right my friend, i worded that poorly, thank you for correcting me
/salute
TheRealTK421
Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:45 am
#12
Barfalomue wrote:
Wow, he even deleted the post in the Tempest forum where he said it could stay. Thanks CSRs...
Again, lies....heh...I don't know what to say.
That was probably a mistake.
I'd drop GarVa a PM and make sure it's okay for you to reopen the thread in Tempest (just make sure that version 2.0 of the post is better).
/bow
Respectfully,
Lonkley
Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:50 am
#13
You were wrong.
But not as wrong as SOE was to remove the General forum where such a post would belong.
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