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Thread: What kind of droid invasion has no combat droids??

Lowca_Fatal
Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:03 pm
#1

Looks like we will be stuck with only a probot for at least a year.


Dev's have decided to do only utility droids for Publish 7 and 8. 'Droid Commander' and any droid above clvl10 has been thrown down the toilet.


I can't wait for the new shiny worthless pieces of junk they come up with.



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SinjenRandall
Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:19 pm
#2







SWG-Runesabre wrote:


It is my opinion that a new profession should be a unique, interestingaddition to the game that is not merely a copy or derivative of an existing class. There are already too manyprofessions in SWG that are similar with each other; I did not want to add to that problem. The Droid Commander profession would have needed a lot more development time than I had to spend in the schedule to ensure it was not simply a "metallic CH" profession. Finally, as mentioned before, it is my goal to ensure that all existing professions have their own unique, viable identity in SWG before thinking about adding new professions to the game.




100% with the devs on this one. They should have been going in this direction in the first place, instead of wasting valuable time raising everyone's blood pressure on both sides of the debate.


He admits right out that they really didn't even have time to implement the DC like it needed to be done. Which means to me that they wouldn't have been making it work on the DE side completely right, either. We don't need a new broken profession.


The devs don't take much stock in droids. That is a given now. But the "droid invasion" was ill-concieved to begin with.


We are all tired now anyway. No need arguing it further.





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Shian_Tavkin
Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:19 pm
#3

Awww so you wanted to be UBER?


Utility and Bugfixes.....thats far more important to the profession (though maybe not to you) than any half baked Metallic CH profession would ever be.


SWG-Runesabre said:



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It is my opinion that a new profession should be a unique, interestingaddition to the game that is not merely a copy or derivative of an existing class. There are already too manyprofessions in SWG that are similar with each other; I did not want to add to that problem. The Droid Commander profession would have needed a lot more development time than I had to spend in the schedule to ensure it was not simply a "metallic CH" profession. Finally, as mentioned before, it is my goal to ensure that all existing professions have their own unique, viable identity in SWG before thinking about adding new professions to the game.

/endquote-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


He is right.





Shian -- Master Droid Engineer/ Master Artisan
Laffite
Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:40 pm
#4

TH stated that we'll still get cl 10 droids, which probably means combat modules. This, in my opinion, is better than getting new droids for the time being because they can focus on adding/fixing modules instead of designing new droids.



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Cedig
Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:39 am
#5

Bug fixes are good, but we do need more content.


Personally I think they should just give us some more chassis to work with, the Probot is a CL10 droid, why dont they allow us the Droidika as a CL10 until they address the balance. As they have said in the past that Probot was nerfed until certs were implemented.


I think a lot of people just want new droids. I've got a couple of customers that keep changing their droids every few weeks purely because they get bored with the same R2's etc. If the art is ready, why not implement a couple of new droids as CL10's as a compromise until later?



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ArdenStarmariner
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:28 am
#6

Utility is a SECONDARY business at best. Combat is the main event. That's why the top armor smiths make 2M to 3M per day and the weapon smiths even more.

So what kid of droid invasion has no combat droids? Answer: A Droid Retreat!




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MilamberDragon
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:43 am
#7




ArdenStarmariner wrote:
Utility is a SECONDARY business at best. Combat is the main event. That's why the top armor smiths make 2M to 3M per day and the weapon smiths even more.

So what kid of droid invasion has no combat droids? Answer: A Droid Retreat!




If you have a problem with Droid Engineer as it is then drop it like so many have said. Runesaber said they did not want to make another profession with so many in the game as it was...Yet.


I myself would love to see the list of problems Droid Engineers have with making their current droids fixed first before any more droids are even thought of being added. Why is it i can only sell droids to crafters or doctors, and bounty hunters (other then the droids dont work for them). What about smugglers, scouts, rangers, dancers, musicians. Don't they need some UTILITY droid too.


Just my two creds worth...



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Meenah
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:54 am
#8






MilamberDragon wrote:




ArdenStarmariner wrote:
Utility is a SECONDARY business at best. Combat is the main event. That's why the top armor smiths make 2M to 3M per day and the weapon smiths even more.

So what kid of droid invasion has no combat droids? Answer: A Droid Retreat!




If you have a problem with Droid Engineer as it is then drop it like so many have said. Runesaber said they did not want to make another profession with so many in the game as it was...Yet.


I myself would love to see the list of problems Droid Engineers have with making their current droids fixed first before any more droids are even thought of being added. Why is it i can only sell droids to crafters or doctors, and bounty hunters (other then the droids dont work for them). What about smugglers, scouts, rangers, dancers, musicians. Don't they need some UTILITY droid too.


Just my two creds worth...







Unfortunately, I am doing just that, dropping DE.. From the start I always thought it was a cool profession and as "Star Warsy" as you could get.. After playing with various professions while I gathered resources to start some different crafting professions (Armorsmith and DE, namely) I made Master DE 3 weeks ago. I wear my tag and hang out in Theed quite often. Know how many times I've been asked about droids? ZERO times. Not once in three weeks. The only time I even see droids are in Theed with names like "So-and-soSucks" or near mission terminals so the person with the droid can get the same missions with higher pay to still solo. Why on earth would someone pick an unhealable poor damage outputting probot over a decent BE'd non-CH pet with 3-4k HAM and better dmg/spd?


The fact is I won't miss DE because of the stupid 'fixes' we've been given (1 pet ata time, namely). My crafter friends already have 1 or 2 droids with crafting stations so I can't even *GIVE* droids away to my friends..




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ZandaarDokedros
Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:00 am
#9


The Droid Invasion has been postponed due to the Dev's listening to a lot of complaints about how they wanted to do it. Wether you personally agree with the voices that won out or not, its not the Devs' faults.

Im pretty new to the whole DE forum, but im getting really annoyed with reading a new thread every day harping on the guys at SOE for making decisions based on what people posted they wanted here. I understand everyone is frustrated with the profession and the current situation in galaxies, as i progress in DE, im starting to get a better understanding of all the issues, but we need to lay off them a little bit.


/rant


For those of you who wanted droid commander or droid master or whatever you wanted them to call it, quit now, because you arent getting what you want and you are just spewing cynicism all over the boards. Go be a weaponsmith, and complain about building heavy laser cannons and not being certified to use them.


For those of you who wanted utility droids and are still complaining, get a grip. Wether they are at fault for trying to design a "bad" system to put in all the droids that everyone wanted, they are listening now and a new system and new direction requires time and planning to impliment.


For everyone who thinks that they are better than the Devs, go to college, get a degree and take their jobs or start your own MMO game, which im sure will rock so much harder than SWG.

The rest of you can keep on rockin.



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Lowca_Fatal
Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:17 pm
#10

They needed to implement a system of spending skill points, combat experience, and credits and earning certifications for better droids.


The whole Droid Commander idea was retarded.


If they would have done this right, by utilizing droid experimentation and looted components, then the best DE's could make some downright sick combat droids and sell them for quite a bit.


Now we are back to being a 'other' crafter to armorsmiths and weaponsmiths.





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Barfalomue
Wed Feb 04, 2004 2:10 pm
#11

"What kind of droid invasion has no combat droids??"




ImagineMartha Stewart running the invasion...and you can come up with the rest...



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Meenah
Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:55 am
#12






ZandaarDokedros wrote:




For everyone who thinks that they are better than the Devs, go to college, get a degree and take their jobs or start your own MMO game, which im sure will rock so much harder than SWG.







I personally strongly disagree with this statement. I don't have to be a certified 5 Star Chef to know the hamburger I ordered isn't cooked right.. We don't have to be 'better' than the devs to not like the job theyre doing or the decisions they're making. With my template I have *0* means of calling our a droid (I don't have the points for Scout). The DE community accepted a nerf (prematurely, IMO) on the probot droids under the guise of 'fairness' only to watch non-CH pets be allowed a higher Creature Level then the best Probot..This was never rescinded either until very recently, but I still say that BE'd non-CH pets are infinately better than Master DE probots--especially given that ANYONE can heal a BE'd pet with petstims, let alone novice medic skills.. Oh, its all 'in the works' but I pay for play the game NOW, not for what it COULD or SHOULD be..



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