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Thread: I really shouldn't touch my...

Jenden
Sat Jun 11, 2005 6:22 pm
#1

computer. Went to upgrade the processor (found an extra processor just laying around and decided to try for a free upgrade) and ended up breaking something good. Now neither processor boots. Going to try a new mobo tonight, but if that doesn't work guess its upgrade time for me (was going to upgrade soon... just not this soon). Anyway, if the mobo tonight doesn't work I'll be a little quiet until middle of the week (should still have plenty of access during the day, night is just a bit sketchy).



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11710
Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:07 am
#2

Oww That sux man. Yeah same thing happend with my Dads comp when he asked me to change the processor. I wound up just having to put the old one back in. And re-formatting



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Bviper47
Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:55 am
#3

Never ever ever just try to drop a new processor into an old motherboard. I would say 9 times out of 10 it won't work. There are so many combatability factors its better just to get a new motherboard, and processor every time you want to upgrade.



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Jenden
Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:28 am
#4



Bviper47 wrote:
Never ever ever just try to drop a new processor into an old motherboard. I would say 9 times out of 10 it won't work. There are so many combatability factors its better just to get a new motherboard, and processor every time you want to upgrade.



Oh I checked all the compatibility, and the board could handle the processor no problem. I'm guessing one of a couple things could have happened. Either the new processor was bad and damaged the board, which then in turn damaged the old processor. Or the old processor was on its last leg and all the moving around and reseating killed it, or I got a bit too much ESD from my basement carpet (usually not a problem down here, but could be).... I knew the new processor was iffy to begin with (pulled it from a motherboard/processor combo box where the motherboard wasn't working), just didn't think I'd manage to screw up my original while I was at it.



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ga1352
Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:29 pm
#5

maybe a bent pin



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Bviper47
Sun Jun 12, 2005 3:21 pm
#6

Ok, well at least you checked combatablity, I thought you said hmm I wonder if I could jam this into here lol if you have a Frys around your city somewhere check what deals they got going. They usually have nice CPU / Mobo combos I got a shuttle with a P4 2.6ghz back a while ago for fairly cheap and it has to be the best thing I have ever bought computer componets wise.



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Jenden
Sun Jun 12, 2005 3:43 pm
#7



ga1352 wrote:
maybe a bent pin



nah, pins are all good, no obvious marks or smell to indicate short or burned circuit... was planning on upgrading anyway so this just pushed up my timetable. New AMD64 3000, MSI neo4-f, and GeForce 6600. Total comes out to about 370... more than I want to spend right now but less than it could be.



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Drashk
Sun Jun 12, 2005 3:54 pm
#8

Iwould go with the SOLTEK "SL-K8TPro-939" & AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Winchester.


The soltek board comes with tons of options and goodies in the box and the Winchester Processor can be overclocked without the worry of heat, due to the 90mm chip size, compared to the 120mm chip size. They are currently running $98 and $147, respectively, on newegg.com


I picked up the soltek board and a 3400+ Winchester 4 months ago, and haven't had a complaint since.





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Jenden
Sun Jun 12, 2005 6:51 pm
#9



Drashk wrote:
Iwould go with the SOLTEK "SL-K8TPro-939" & AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Winchester.
The soltek board comes with tons of options and goodies in the box and the Winchester Processor can be overclocked without the worry of heat, due to the 90mm chip size, compared to the 120mm chip size. They are currently running $98 and $147, respectively, on newegg.com
I picked up the soltek board and a 3400+ Winchester 4 months ago, and haven't had a complaint since.




Don't think soltek was one of my options. I'm going through the distributor used at the shop I work at, and soltek isn't one of the brands they cary. Also, I've had good luck with MSI boards, so going to stick with that for now. The winchester core has some issues with the nforce-4 chipset, so I'm going with the newer venice core (still the 90nm chip, with beautful overclock potential).



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Warryyr
Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:58 am
#10

Did you go into the mobo's options and try to make sure it was reading your processor correctly?


Maybe you need to adjust your front side bus or something, if it's not set to Auto.


What was the old processor, and the new processor? What model of processor?


Jenden
Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:12 am
#11



Warryyr wrote:

Did you go into the mobo's options and try to make sure it was reading your processor correctly?

Maybe you need to adjust your front side bus or something, if it's not set to Auto.

What was the old processor, and the new processor? What model of processor?





hehe, that would require me to be able to get past the "Early Processor Initialization" phase... doesn't even get to checking the RAM. Old processor was an AMD athlon xp 1900+, new one was a 2700. Not sure on the specific cores (don't have the processors here). Just not going to deal with it though... parts are already on order.



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Warryyr
Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:19 am
#12






Jenden wrote:





Warryyr wrote:

Did you go into the mobo's options and try to make sure it was reading your processor correctly?


Maybe you need to adjust your front side bus or something, if it's not set to Auto.


What was the old processor, and the new processor? What model of processor?







hehe, that would require me to be able to get past the "Early Processor Initialization" phase... doesn't even get to checking the RAM. Old processor was an AMD athlon xp 1900+, new one was a 2700. Not sure on the specific cores (don't have the processors here). Just not going to deal with it though... parts are already on order.




Ah, cool. Oh well. The FSB for the 1900+ should work okay on the 2700, but it'd just show up as a slower processor in the mobo options. I guess I was wondering if you jacked up the FSB past what it should be, or the mobo did automatically for some reason.


I do know that some older mobo's were rated for up to like a 2100+ AMD, so maybe you blew it's mind with a 2700 or something lol. Maybe a CMOS clear or something might have reset whatever happened...then again maybe you made it really angry.


I had an old mobo that I couldn't upgradethe processor with, because it was rated through a 2100+ and I wanted to go beyond that. So I just got a new mobo. Probably your best bet anyways. Sucks that it pissed off your computer, though heh.


Good luck man.


Jenden
Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:24 am
#13



Warryyr wrote:


Jenden wrote:


Warryyr wrote:

Did you go into the mobo's options and try to make sure it was reading your processor correctly?

Maybe you need to adjust your front side bus or something, if it's not set to Auto.

What was the old processor, and the new processor? What model of processor?





hehe, that would require me to be able to get past the "Early Processor Initialization" phase... doesn't even get to checking the RAM. Old processor was an AMD athlon xp 1900+, new one was a 2700. Not sure on the specific cores (don't have the processors here). Just not going to deal with it though... parts are already on order.

Ah, cool. Oh well. The FSB for the 1900+ should work okay on the 2700, but it'd just show up as a slower processor in the mobo options. I guess I was wondering if you jacked up the FSB past what it should be, or the mobo did automatically for some reason.

I do know that some older mobo's were rated for up to like a 2100+ AMD, so maybe you blew it's mind with a 2700 or something lol. Maybe a CMOS clear or something might have reset whatever happened...then again maybe you made it really angry.

I had an old mobo that I couldn't upgrade the processor with, because it was rated through a 2100+ and I wanted to go beyond that. So I just got a new mobo. Probably your best bet anyways. Sucks that it pissed off your computer, though heh.

Good luck man.






Tried clearing the CMOS, and the mobo is actually fairly new (about 9 months old I think), and should be able to handle any of the XP series (MSI K7N2 Delta2)



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