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Thread: Worthless droid?

JansosHosphe
Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:36 pm
#1


So some guy asks me to make him a R5 with nothing but repair modules in it. I did so, and a while later he's telling me that he can't figure out how to make it attack. He wanted a tank, not just an autorepair droid. I bought it back, because I'm a soft touch.I'm still trying to decide whether I want to make him a tank... he's not willing to pay for a high end tank like a probot orLE. Nowthe droid isin my datapad, taking up space.


So what I want to know is this: Is such a droid useful to anyone for anything? I mean, it can repair itself or other droids like crazy, as I understand the functionality of the autorepair module. It just can't be used to attack... If not, I might just as well destroy it. But if so, I will find some unsuspecting victim and make them a gift of it.



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AudioOrgana
Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:00 pm
#2

Bah, it's just an R5 - trash it.


That's what I'd do - the only audience would be someone who wants to assist in healing droids in combat, but since the auto-repair can't be very high on the R5, it really wouldn't be a whole lot of help then either.


AO
Ackdel
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:35 am
#3

I concur. You'll just have to write up that loss.




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OckVofad
Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:20 am
#4

The only tanks that are worth making are the LE, probot and R3.


Anyone that cant afford to purchase one of these is probably new to the game and its is probably more trouble than its worth.


This is another reason why i do all mass production of droids; no custom orders. If you buy it off my vendor there is a no return policy.



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JansosHosphe
Fri Jul 16, 2004 6:50 am
#5






AudioOrgana wrote:

Bah, it's just an R5 - trash it.


That's what I'd do - the only audience would be someone who wants to assist in healing droids in combat, but since the auto-repair can't be very high on the R5, it really wouldn't be a whole lot of help then either.


AO





Yah, that's what I figured, but thought I'd ask before I killed the thing.


To tell the truth, I'm somewhat embarrased that I made it without asking more questions of the guy. If I had, I'm sure he would have let slip that he planned to use it as a tank, and I'd have told him it would not work for that. But he seemed pretty sure of what he wanted... probably talked to someone who had a probot with nothing but repair modules or something, and.... I just figured he must have a use for it if he was being so specific.


Oh, well.. experience is a great teacher.






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Straker_Atrella
Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:44 pm
#6

Don't sweat it, custom orders can be tricky. In my descriptions on my vendor, I always put a good description and what professions and such are required.


However, it is easy to assume that when somebody sends you a tell asking for something specific, they know what they are asking for. I have forgotten to ask people if they had advertising 4 for example as well.


Yea, that droid should probably be sent to the big droid dump in the sky. I have a "bad droid" room that any muckups I do go into, quite often, I give thesse to new people starting the game. I'm honest and tell them, it kind of sucks, come see me once they are setup and looking for a better model. However, your droid wouldn't be much use to anybody, unfortunatly.





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Shian_Tavkin
Sat Jul 17, 2004 8:32 am
#7






Straker_Atrella wrote:

Don't sweat it, custom orders can be tricky. In my descriptions on my vendor, I always put a good description and what professions and such are required.


However, it is easy to assume that when somebody sends you a tell asking for something specific, they know what they are asking for. I have forgotten to ask people if they had advertising 4 for example as well.


Yea, that droid should probably be sent to the big droid dump in the sky. I have a "bad droid" room that any muckups I do go into, quite often, I give thesse to new people starting the game. I'm honest and tell them, it kind of sucks, come see me once they are setup and looking for a better model. However, your droid wouldn't be much use to anybody, unfortunatly.







Nothing to do but scrap it imho


Any autorepair droid thats to be of any use in a combat situation must have at least a minimum attack capability (5 autorepair probot is the absolute min attack capability I believe), or else it will simply run away from the fight.


As to the idea of giving 'muckups' to new players, Hmm, not such a good idea I think. While they may know, and you may know, the people they play with wont know its been given/sold as a sub-standard droid. All it takes is the question 'where did you get your droid?' and unless the answer comes with the explaination that they know its sub-standard, there goes your reputation out the window. Generosity is one thing, bad press is quite another eh








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Systhro
Sat Jul 17, 2004 8:43 am
#8

No droids are useless... I had someone ask me once for a protocol droid, without any modules, he just wanted the Worshippersonalityin it to have as a companion.


Youcould always give thedroid to a newb and tell him: "Youcould always use him as a friend inneed"




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Straker_Atrella
Sat Jul 17, 2004 1:40 pm
#9






Shian_Tavkin wrote:





Straker_Atrella wrote:

Don't sweat it, custom orders can be tricky. In my descriptions on my vendor, I always put a good description and what professions and such are required.


However, it is easy to assume that when somebody sends you a tell asking for something specific, they know what they are asking for. I have forgotten to ask people if they had advertising 4 for example as well.


Yea, that droid should probably be sent to the big droid dump in the sky. I have a "bad droid" room that any muckups I do go into, quite often, I give thesse to new people starting the game. I'm honest and tell them, it kind of sucks, come see me once they are setup and looking for a better model. However, your droid wouldn't be much use to anybody, unfortunatly.







Nothing to do but scrap it imho


Any autorepair droid thats to be of any use in a combat situation must have at least a minimum attack capability (5 autorepair probot is the absolute min attack capability I believe), or else it will simply run away from the fight.


As to the idea of giving 'muckups' to new players, Hmm, not such a good idea I think. While they may know, and you may know, the people they play with wont know its been given/sold as a sub-standard droid. All it takes is the question 'where did you get your droid?' and unless the answer comes with the explaination that they know its sub-standard, there goes your reputation out the window. Generosity is one thing, bad press is quite another eh












I don't know, most new players know thei weapons suck, their armor sucks, yet they are still excited about playing Star Wars. What is more Star Warsy then a droid? I'm not talking like a really really useless droid, I'm talking like a Probot I only hit 2600 HAM on instead of 3200. Or a Medical droid I accidentally forgot to put a crafting station in.


Every single timeI have done this, thep erson loved it, then once the person learned the game and got up and running, they came and bought maxed droids. I have a decent rep, I don't thnik any of them would tarnish it, it's not like I sold it to them.




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Bakuz
Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:59 pm
#10



JansosHosphe wrote:

Yah, that's what I figured, but thought I'd ask before I killed the thing.

To tell the truth, I'm somewhat embarrased that I made it without asking more questions of the guy. If I had, I'm sure he would have let slip that he planned to use it as a tank, and I'd have told him it would not work for that. But he seemed pretty sure of what he wanted... probably talked to someone who had a probot with nothing but repair modules or something, and.... I just figured he must have a use for it if he was being so specific.

Oh, well.. experience is a great teacher.





You shouldn't be embarrassed.
You gave the customer exactly what he wanted, just what he wanted wasn't *really* what he wanted.
No one did anything to be embarrassed over.
If I tell a customer I will make something and find out I can't for any reason, or if there is a misunderstanding, I simply explain to them as quickly as possible so they're not waiting wondering what's up.
Just be as clear as you can to your customers. Make many different kinds of droids just for the fun of it.
The most fun droids I have made for people actually seem to be hybrids and things that aren't "standard". Maybe they aren't as powerful as a droid that does one thing alone, but the people get a kick out of their all-around droid and it's fun to see just what they can do. It's variety.
Experiment with them and have fun.
Zorkk
Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:57 am
#11

As Droid Engineers, I really think we need to encourage people in the game to have a droid for nothing other than the status, and cool factor of having your own droid. So it does nothing, it looks cool, it'll follow you around, and someone out there will say "HEY!, that's cool".... Droids should be marketed like clothing, for style & effect. "the OOO-AAAA factor" Lots want a pet creature for this factor, so why not droids! I guess it would help if they would add more dialogue to the personality chips, as it is the only comments I ever see from a droid with a PC is when i'm programming in the commands... other than it's as silent as a structure module.


For myself, you'll more often than not see me riding my bantha around town... with a droid chasing us.why? Cuz this is starwars,where banthas and droids are cool, and hopefully, at some point in the future, people will able to tell i'm around cuz there's a bantha being groomedby a droid, standing outside the cantina where i'm trying to hawk my wares


I say your doin the right thing by giving the "muckups" to the new characters.... When i first was ble to make MSE droids, i made like 6 with 1 avian effect each just to check em out... most of them i just gave to new entertainers without a droid....now some of them have come back and asked me if i can make bigger/better ones, so it works out in the end!


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JansosHosphe
Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:26 am
#12






Zorkk wrote:

As Droid Engineers, I really think we need to encourage people in the game to have a droid for nothing other than the status, and cool factor of having your own droid. So it does nothing, it looks cool, it'll follow you around, and someone out there will say "HEY!, that's cool".... Droids should be marketed like clothing, for style & effect. "the OOO-AAAA factor" Lots want a pet creature for this factor, so why not droids!

Way ahead of you there, mate. I make single module droids like treadwells into crafting, storage,or med droids for just this reason. To causemore variety in what's seen out there.


I guess it would help if they would add more dialogue to the personality chips, as it is the only comments I ever see from a droid with a PC is when i'm programming in the commands... other than it's as silent as a structure module.

Agree. We should be given a /droidsay command so we can speak through our droid's mouth, too... at least for the humanoids.


For myself, you'll more often than not see me riding my bantha around town... with a droid chasing us.why? Cuz this is starwars,where banthas and droids are cool, and hopefully, at some point in the future, people will able to tell i'm around cuz there's a bantha being groomedby a droid, standing outside the cantina where i'm trying to hawk my wares

Only problem with this is the more people do it, the worse the lag gets. And there really is no way to fix lag... it's caused by the low amount of memory on the player's computer... (I shudder when I think of the lag I'll probably have with JTL)


I say your doin the right thing by giving the "muckups" to the new characters.... When i first was ble to make MSE droids, i made like 6 with 1 avian effect each just to check em out... most of them i just gave to new entertainers without a droid....now some of them have come back and asked me if i can make bigger/better ones, so it works out in the end!

I had someone special order an R2 yesterday with all the entertainer modules except jawas, after buying an MSE with a jawa module.

Z






I still have the R5 with nothing but autorepair in my datapad... I'll kill it if and when I need space for another droid, if I have not found someone to give it to before then.







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