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Thread: Barking modules...

PanzerGR
Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:16 pm
#1

A month or more ago when i first learned that barking modules were coming out I gave the DE's a warning about them.


The warning was about the amount of unfiltered spam these would cause.....most peopel agreed that if improperly designed barker droids could be an extremely high nuisance with their spam, etc. Many suggestions were given.


TO my knowledge none of thos esuggestions were listened to. Barker droids are SO annoying i refuse to even go to some starports now. The spam is absolutely intolerable. Unlike a player, you cna not put a droid on ignore (that im aware of) and as such theres no way to filter out the spam from these things.


PLEASE get this fixed




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GnomeAd
Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:42 pm
#2






PanzerGR wrote:

A month or more ago when i first learned that barking modules were coming out I gave the DE's a warning about them. Wow! With such insight and cunning you are my newest hero!


The warning was about the amount of unfiltered spam these would cause.....most peopel agreed that if improperly designed barker droids could be an extremely high nuisance with their spam, etc. Many suggestions were given. (and just as promptly ignored by the devs)


TO my knowledge none of thos esuggestions were listened to. Barker droids are SO annoying i refuse to even go to some starports now. (And this hurts me how?)The spam is absolutely intolerable. (This differs from yesterday and the day before?)Unlike a player, you cna not put a droid on ignore (that im aware of) and as such theres no way to filter out the spam from these things. (Hmmm...if you were ignoring all the spammers before, you must have an ignore list like no-ones business. Seriously, this is day one, how many have you REALLY heard so far?)


PLEASE get this fixed (Sorry, wrong forum noob. Try the In Live thread or PMing TH. We can't do anything about it.)






PanzerGR
Tue Apr 27, 2004 7:55 pm
#3


Actually yoru correspondant CAN address the issue with the devs.....thanks bub.


Secondly this is a problem and theres alreayd been a few posts on my forums about it.



No one can say DE hasnt needed new stuff and hasnt needed fixes.....this is not a very good "fix" to anything however. It only annoys peopel to no end. It may not hurt you that people refuse to go thru soem starports now, but I believe there ar emore peopel out there who hate these things than liek them.....and sure as he!! more of us that disliek them than there are Droid Engineers.


I ignore anyoen in the starports who spams messages more than every so often and of such and such a length..and yes my ignore list is kinda lengthy.



However the point is i had a CHOICE before whether or not to ignore sum1......with these stupid droids i do NOT get a choic eint he matter and I am FORCED to listen to their sputter and have their chat bubbles fill my screen. And That, my friend, is not right.


This needs to be fixed and it needs to be fixed fast.......even soem of your fellow DE's wer eont he same page a month ago GnomeAd...i cant help it DE's have been shafted so long that your unwilling to compromise.






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ImdaREELjedi
Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:04 pm
#4

considering the barking is usable only by those with merchant skills, so youll have far less barking droids than you probably realize.


and nobody really cares if you cant stand the spam in a starport. its just what happens. lots of people buy stuff at starports, its a good business strategy.


ignoring everyone who spams is a good way to lose out on a lot of great deals, which means you just helped someone else buy a great product at a good price, im sure theyre thanking you.


sheesh.



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PanzerGR
Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:40 am
#5

you people arent getting it



if i want to buy soemthing i ask around for it.......i dont liek having to listen to incessant spam at starports......i dotn block everyone, just those peopel being exceedingly nanoying with their spam.


Granted it is good business for soem people.....


but the POINT is i SHOULD have a CHOICE as to whetehr or not i want to listen to it. It hsould not be forced upon me and nothing I can do about it except tget the old "live with it" routine from inconsiderate businessmen. Sorry.






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PanzerGR
Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:46 am
#6

little clip from apost on my server



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Last i checked i pay to play this game.. this isnt public broadcast tv where i should be forced to endure commercials. A real crafter and/or reputable seller doesnt need to spam at all, honestly. I sold meds for a long time and never spammed once, and was probably one of the busiest if not the busiest on bloodfin during that time.



droids dont sell prodcut, good product sells itself.a good rep is worth more then 1000 droids, and droi barkers are going to ruin theirs in my eyes.


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i pay to play this game, just as the above person state don my forum. I have just as much right to NOT have to listen to these things as the seller does to use them.


there needs to be a compromise where BOTH sides get what they want......there HAS to be an option for players to turn these off an dnot have to listen to them.


Th ebest 2 methods ive seen suggested are ot have them Click-Activated in a radial menu..or for them to have their own Commercial Chat Tab.....JustG said soemthing about adding mroe chat channels so maybe they can do this.


all i know is i want an option to turn these buggers off.....i buy based on rep and people I know. People have sold their products long before these things came out, im sure they could have done without these and still sold products.


What i find funniest is this: Theres a guy afk-spamming in the starport and he ALSO has a barker droid so he is getting TONS of spam on the channel.....how stupid is that




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Itren
Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:24 am
#7

guess you folks don't go to Cnet.. at least on Starsider, the barking was ridiculous. I have a huge ignore list, yes, as I am a master doc on one of my characters, and it's hard to see customer's speech or whatnot if I have spam scrolling my text box. So I ignore a lot of people. But these droids.... ugh. Don't get me wrong, I like the combat droid updates, those are great, but barker modules are a pain. Scout harvester modules are mostly worthless.. Oooh, I get maybe a bonus to harvesting from a well built droid.. so what, not really worth the hassle. Entertainer droids are ok (tell your musician customers to have the playback droids do bandflos to get them to work) survey droids are completley worthless, I can travel to a planet in less time and just pop open a survey tool for the same reason, and I don't use up a charge on a droid, or lose my survey tool in the processs... this publish was a great rework to combat droids, but everything else sucks.



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Malitevv
Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:37 am
#8

I like the idea of the barker modules, but I have to agree with those complaining: these things were poorly implemented. It was discussed before it went live and the reasons have not changed. There was a better way to implement these things. Oh well.



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marxo777
Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:39 am
#9






Itren wrote:


Whine, gripe, moan, complain, b!tch, pout, etc etc...........









fixed?











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Gavvot
Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:58 am
#10

Basically, replacing PC spammer that spam every 3 seconds by Droid that spam max every minute is very very bad for you?

The Devs did listen. You must have advertising 4 to use them, and the droid won't bark faster than 1 per minute and only if new players are coming in the area.

Honestly I think the dev shouldn't have change the requirement so you need Advertising 4 to use it.
Because that limit alot the number of people that will use them.

And so that won't reduce the spam that much.

As for the ignore list and coronet spammers, personaly I don't even bother put them on ignore, there are way too many.
I just cut my local when I have to stop at this spaceport.



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Styran
Wed Apr 28, 2004 5:05 am
#11

Heh. I seem to be the only one with no problem with the barker droid. I am a Doc, and like stated above it was difficult talking to clients with all the nonsense spam going around. Advertising a vendor is alright, but advertising everything in your inventory is for sale for 3 hours?LOL. The droids have actually lessened the spam.


And I guess none of you have ever been to a carnival or a bazaar or fair or anything where you get people (Carnies scare me btw) "spamming" their product? I dread to think what happens there, since you have no ignore list in RL. The only thing that I do not like about the spam is the speech bubbles.


What I do? Just go about my business. Try it. You might find something that piques your intrest, or you might not. No need to get mad at people just advertising their business to make sales.



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jason67
Wed Apr 28, 2004 5:18 am
#12

You guys have apparently not figured out yet how to customize your chat channels. If you right click on your chat tabs you can add a new channel. I have one customized for the starport that blocks everything except guildchat, groupchat, and private messages/system messages. This will eliminate all spammers without haveing to put everyone on ignore that way if/when you are looking for something you can simply go back to your normal channel and see all the spam if desired or you can use your "starport" channel and block everything. 90% of the time now I use my custom made "starport" channel no matter where I'm at.





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Daltek
Wed Apr 28, 2004 5:20 am
#13






PanzerGR wrote:


all i know is i want an option to turn these buggers off.....i buy based on rep and people I know. People have sold their products long before these things came out, im sure they could have done without these and still sold products.




One way to getaround some of it in the meantime is to create a new channel tab that contains everything except Spatial. When you take a shuttle somewhere, activate that channel until you're in the new city and out of range of the barkers & spammers. It doesn't help get rid of balloons on your screen but it'll keep you from missing any /tells in your chat window.


I agree, though... the barking thing needs a bit of revision. The amount of negative feedback on them so far makes me confident that something will be changed, possibly in the next mini-publish...



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