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Thread: Idea for a new droid module

Wurth_Skidder_Ahazi
Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:10 pm
#1

My idea is this: Recon Modules... its sort of like a remote control camera, allowing u to send it into dangerous areas letting u scout it out a bit. But it only has a range of like 500m or so, so that u cant send it half way across the galaxy so that ur safely hidden somewhere
Wurth_Skidder_Ahazi
Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:15 pm
#2

forgot to add my tag




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Rihtan
Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:50 pm
#3

I like it, but it brings up another question. Where are the macrobinoculars?

Rihtan

I think 1K would be a beter distance.
Sa-al
Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:16 am
#4

Great Idea for the recon modules there.


Droids could have so many more uses and advantages to a player characters life and daily chores. I have a few of my own, not sure if they have been covered yet but what do you reckon to these :


( 1 ) Power distribution module : Enabling a droid to remotely add power to structures, coupled with the maintenance module, life would be a lot easier for people with a lot of structures.


( 2 ) Beverage / Food dispenser module : Allowing droids to be loaded up with food and drinks to be used in cantinas or player groups. Possibly having a " Set-food or drinks " pricing option on the radial menue for public service. ( maybe this could incorporate a drinks tray as worn by R2-D2 in ROTJ whilst onboard Jabbas Sail barge and during service in his palace. )


( 3 ) Hologram module : lol a little adventurous but hey. Would enable you to record a message and remotely transmit it to another players droid. The would receive an ( Incoming hologram ) alert and would need to call the droid out to be able to view and retrieve the message. I know we have the in-game message system that is a lot quicker, but im talking fun here and nice little touches =)


There are so many options and things we could do, this is just a few off the many lists and iseas I have. Lets hope the DEV's take a few of them into consideration as droids thus far are not getting the best deal atm .





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Sharp113
Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:18 pm
#5

Nice idea's sa-al, i would love one day to see an artoo droid giving drinks and food in cantinas... also that energy distribuator module that gives power and maintenance to your structure would also be very useful


-Ecis
Bluto777
Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:37 pm
#6

Hologram module: I like this one a lot. What if, instead of just the message, (I'm not programmer, so not sure how this would be implemented), an image of the sender is projected out, like droids do in the movies? It would be an image of the person sending it, similar to the images of characters when you log on.



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Sa-al
Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:39 am
#7






Bluto777 wrote:

Hologram module: I like this one a lot. What if, instead of just the message, (I'm not programmer, so not sure how this would be implemented), an image of the sender is projected out, like droids do in the movies? It would be an image of the person sending it, similar to the images of characters when you log on.



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Bluto this is exactly what I was getting at, I realise I was a little vague there with the ins and outs on the funtionality of the module, but yes you hit the nail on the head there my friend.


Hmm maybe things could be too complicated to record an image of the droids user, due to the diverse and many character appearances, but they may be able to incorporate a standard hologram image, perhaps one for male characters and one for female.







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Jjiaah
Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:04 am
#8






Sa-al wrote:


( 3 ) Hologram module : lol a little adventurous but hey. Would enable you to record a message and remotely transmit it to another players droid. The would receive an ( Incoming hologram ) alert and would need to call the droid out to be able to view and retrieve the message. I know we have the in-game message system that is a lot quicker, but im talking fun here and nice little touches =)







This is an idea I can get behind. Excellent proposition!


I have an alternate idea along those lines, which could be done seperately or jointly with yours.


As opposed to an actual module built in to a standard droid, how about a disposable droid (made very cheaply... few resources and parts and nothing of quality needed), such as the Seekersand Survey Droids, that can carry out this task. You use the command /HoloMessage, write your message and off it goes (one charge used) to deliver the message. When it reaches its destination, it projects a basic generic hologram of your (the senders) race and gender while transmitting the message to them. There could even be a privacy setting (encrypting) where it will speak in either Spatial or Tell (chosen by the sender) and/or use the Rebel / Imperial holo-emote symbols instead. Everyone will be able to see the hologram (toggleable in the options menu to see others holomessages or not). The Holo-Messenger droid, and the hologram itself, stay in view for 20 seconds and then the droid stops projection and disappears.


Privacy and Hologram can be set with (layout /HoloMessage [privacy] [hologram] )

/HoloMessagePrivateRebel -or- /HoloMessagePublicImperial -or- /HoloMessagePrivate. A Holo-Messenger sent with just /HoloMessage is by default public and NPC hologram. This helps to limit the messages to normal chat-window message lengths.


Messages such as this could be used to communicate to people in JTL from the ground, and vice-versa, in a more fun and interesting way. I personally think it would be neat to be flying around in space, and suddenly a droid appears outside my cockpit window and delivers a holo-message.


While the e-mail systemalready encorporates enough to allow people to communicate online and offline, this would add a much more StarWarsy feel to the whole thing.


Any system such as this (either idea)that allows for graphics displayed essentially AT another personcan be used for griefing (BountyHunter_01 sends 30 of these after Jedi_58935 to distract, and impede his vision and spatial messages (and likely increase lag by dropping their framerate), long enough for DetDroid_58935 to get in and do it's thing). Or it could be used to just annoy the heck out of someone you don't like.


To work around this, an Options filter would need to be in place with these options:



  1. Turn off Holo-Messengers

  2. AllowHolo-Messengers only from your friends list

  3. Disallow Holo-Messengers only from your ignore list

  4. Accept all Holo-Messengers

That should cover all the bases. Holo-Messengers sent to someone who has them turned of in respect to the sender simply receive them as an e-mail.


The programming aspects and database concerns are low-impact. The e-mail subsystem is already in place, and delivery would utilize the current e-mail subsystem. Only a few routines would need to be written to allow the message to appear as a Holo-Messenger as opposed to an e-mail, andthe bulk ofthe work is done client-side as a matter of display. Offline Holo-Messengers simply arrive at the recipient as a standard e-mail. This would allow Holo-Messengers to be sent to offline people as well, and not flood them with 100 Holo-Messengers (if they're a really popular person lol) the moment they log on. The graphics won't be that much work either as the basic framework for NPC's already exists, and just a modification to the textures would need to be applied (transparency etc).


If server latency is a concern, this could be hard-coded to be visible to only the person receiving the message. That way the client-side does 99% of the work in display, and the server doesn't have to send the data of the droid's / holograms existance to every person in view (which on a busy day in Coronet can be a couple hundred). The server just sends the data via the existing e-mail system which would only increase the datasize by a very small amount (1 parity bit for holo-message yes/no). The rest is done client-side.


So..... what does everyone think?


If this gets enough support in this thread, I'll likely move via copy/paste to it's own thread(including Sa-al's original idea) for a more public viewing.

Drashk
Sat Oct 09, 2004 9:17 am
#9

Take a look at this slightly dusty thread.A Holographic module was brought up, along with a few different applications for it.





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Jjiaah
Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:00 am
#10






Drashk wrote:

Take a look at this slightly dusty thread.A Holographic module was brought up, along with a few different applications for it.





Ah! I see what you were refering to.

However, that doesn't brush on the idea of a disposable single-purpose droid that utilizes the e-mail sub-system as a means of more entertaining communication between players, as opposed to a standard module in die-hard droids. Unless I just didn't read far enough (read through that first long post then stopped).

ROTzDLI
Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:08 pm
#11

A "Recon" module would subtract value from the Master Ranger profession. With /areatrack they can see creatures/players within 500m's of them. Perhaps the module could only be used by a ranger and adds an additional 500m or something??

But, there is another issue. I friend of mine is a Master Ranger and we worked on this one night together. They don't actually see 500m unless a player has already been there. As far as we can tell, spawns do not occur until there is a need, ie someone ventures within range. So in actuality a Ranger only sees 500m behind them, or 500m in front if they have a friend rideing 500m+ in front of them. The only thing that isn't effected is player tracking. They always appear if within 500m. So this leads me to beleave there is some kind of load placed on the servers such that they need to place these limitations. But I wasn't fortune enough to design/work on the system. So it's anyones guess.

From a personal point of view. Damn the Rangers, because I want that ability without haveing to devote any sp's





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Sa-al
Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:24 pm
#12




Great developement on the Holo modules Jjiaah

I know that people might just think its too much hassel to use them with the existing messenger system, but for the players that want a little more depth and fun with things, it would be great.


I can see what your getting at there too ROTzDLI, but to be honest I dont think it would take anything away from Rangers. People purchase droids and servants to perform all manner of tasks and chores that they perhaps dont have the natural ability, time or interest in doing themselves, it would just mean the Rangers have the unique natural ability, and also dont blow motivators in when you least need them too. This would just be a technological commodity for players wanting to part with some credits to get a droid to do the dirty work, look at the Probots sent to Hoth in ESB


Maybe the recon modules could be set to specific tasks like you say, in player tracking, town / settlement finding, or for JTL ship location searching similar toSeekersor Arakyds, butmaybe with more options.Still good options for them I reckon.













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