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Thread: Probot vs. Bull Rancor

OMGWTF
Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:20 pm
#1


Ok so i have a CH on another server, been working toward gettin master and decided to comparesomepets for CH with that of DE

I have been complaining about how bad the combat droids are, untilI realized how they were quite the opposie.


Pet Data obtained from http://www.swgcreatures.com/

Droid Data obtained from DE forums

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Probot lv Anyone can use


HAM 3200


Resists: Medium Armor

A light armor pierceing weapon will do 25% less dmg i think

and a no armor pierceing weapon will do like half dmg, not sure on that tho

the actual numbers may be in the manual

40% all but lightsabre



Special Attacks

None, but immune to most effects like poison, diease, bleed, stun, dizzy, etc


To Hit: 0.41

Attack Speed: 0.75

DMG: 182-192


DMG/Sec =242.6 - 256
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Mountain Dewback lv 20


HAM 5500



Resists:None

Kinetic: 20%

Heat/Cold: 40%

Energyt/Blast: 10%

Elec/Acid/Stun/Lightsaber: vul


Special Attacks

1:Knockdown

2:Dizzy Strike


To Hit: 0.32

Attack Speed: 2.0

DMG: 190-200


DMG/Sec =95 - 100

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graul lv 30


HAM 9300



Resists:None

Kinetic: 50%

Energyt/Heat/Cold: 20%

Blast//Elec/Acid/Stun/Lightsaber: vul


Special Attacks

1:Dizzy Strike

2: Stunning Strike


To Hit: 0.39

Attack Speed: 2.0

DMG: 290-300


DMG/Sec =145 - 150

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delerious merek avenger lv 40


HAM 10700



Resists: Light Armor

Kinetic: 45%

Blast/Heat/Cold/Elec/Acid: 5%

Energyt/Stun/Lightsaber: vul


Special Attacks

1:Unknown

2: Stunning Strike


To Hit: 0.44

Attack Speed: 2.0

DMG: 345-400


DMG/Sec =172.5 - 200


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Rancor lv 50


HAM 11300



Resists: Light Armor

Kinetic: 30%

Energy: 30%

Heat/Cold/Elec: 60%

Blast/Stun/Acid/Lightsaber: vul


Special Attacks

1:Stunning Strike

2: Intimidation


To Hit: 0.5

Attack Speed: 2.0

DMG: 420-550


DMG/Sec =210 - 275


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Bull Rancor lv 65


HAM 12300


Resists: Light Armor

Kinetic: 35%

Energy: 60%

Heat/Cold/Elec: 80%

Blast/Stun/Acid: 15%

Lightsaber: vul


Special Attacks

1: Plague Strike

2: Dizzy Strike


To Hit: 0.6

Attack Speed: 2.0

DMG: 455-620


DMG/Sec = 227.5 - 310


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Seems that damage/sec wise probots are close to that of rancors.


Armor wise, with medium armor modules installed in effect it's like 60% against no AP weapons

Basically a droid with mid-range composite armor on.

Again I'm in no way shure on the absolute figures on that


In terms of special attacks, while probots have none, they in a way are immune to several effects,

so this could be seen as trade off.


If Combat droid were going be changed in any way,

Ibet they would add more chassis that act like probots with more ham and another module slot


Hope this makes those of you doubting how good DE are, think twice about your profession as I have.


The probots I make are pretty close to that of the above data.

I'm thinking of selling them for at least 100k each if not more. Suggestions?


If people complain about the prices, I'll just point out this post and say that they are on par dmg/sec wise with a rancor,

and hand them a few droid repair kits that anyone can use.



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Nell2ThaIzzay
Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:28 pm
#2


Hell, if anyone gives you crap about it, tell them that they are getting an extra bonus in combat, that they don't have to spend any skill points what so ever on, and it will last forever because it will never decay. I don't think anyone is going to be able to get a rancor without spending some skill points to get it.

Message Edited by Nell2ThaIzzay on 10-25-2004 01:28 PM



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psikobunny
Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:29 pm
#3

Droids dont have medium armor.



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duncje
Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:38 pm
#4






psikobunny wrote:

Droids dont have medium armor.




Yeah, it got killed before the "droid invasion".




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Eaca
Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:48 pm
#5

They also "cap" thier speed. It says .75-.8 but its still 1.0
OMGWTF
Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:36 pm
#6

OhI give up



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Kassuff
Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:17 pm
#7






psikobunny wrote:

Droids dont have medium armor.





They also only have 20% armor, not 40%. If you see 40% when you examine your droid, you are not seeing the true value.


I make both "Combat" and "Tank" driods on Sunrunner. My definition of a combat droid is a droid that's designed to inflict the most damage and of course havedecent HAM. My definition of a Tank droid is a droid that's designed for survivability, whether it be high HAM, high autorepair rating, or both.


I've used both models on lairs and I like the Tank by far. I personally use a Probot with 5 autorepair modules, which gives it a autorepair rating of 101. Every 10 seconds, the droid heals itself for 101 point to all three HAM bars. Once the droid is on the lair, I sit back and blast any critter that touches the droid. If the critters spawn too fast I can switch to an area attack like strafeshot, but I think it's still better to target one pool and knock critters down one by one. If the droid gets into trouble, I /peace out, call back the droid and hit it with a 1700 point droid stim or two, then send it back to the lair.


Be warned though...autorepair modules eat batteries quickly. I always recharge before attacking a lair if the battery is under 80%.


Anglers, rontos, fambaa, crystal snakes...these type of mobs and their lairs fall usually without incident or droid incap. Only when the lair spits out too many mobs at once do I get overwhelmed. I've never tried rancors though...I'll have to give it a try.


I plan on switching to a Tank R3 from the probot to gain the additional HAM (3100+ to 4500). The extra HAM might be enough to hold of the rancors.


My fantasy (If DE's are allowed to have them) is to have about 6 players pull their R3 tank droids, activate auto repair and them send them on a bull or ancient rancor lair. The autorepair is an AOE heal, so all the droids would be healed for 600 points every 10 seconds. The players would pick off the rancors. I have to wonder it the droids/players or rancors would win


JeCy
Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:30 am
#8

Droids are basicly better than up to about a nice bio pet or lvl 15 the nice thing is they dont need a cert like a lvl 15 pet even though droids are cr lvl 18 trust me any CH will take a nice bio pet over a droid any day,, even a good tamed pet, like a crimson razor cat, or a number of others,,


Still combat droids rock,, especially for those of you with no combat Me and mine have killed reclusive gurk kings, mauler spawns and many others,, i have zero combat or med abitly,


Je'Cy Dax
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