Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: The IMPORTANT things that have got left out of the Droid Invasion
- Ability for DE's to have more than one droid called at once - How many of you would like to stand in the street with 5 droids sitting in a row waiting for your next customer to sell them off too? I, personaly, would love to sell my droids in a similar manner to the "line up" the Jawa's had in ANH.
- Ability for DE's to have more than 5 droids stored depending on their DE skill - I realise this brings up the issue of extra droids = extra storage space = more stress on the database, but we all want DE to have some droid abilities that non-DE do not. I think one of those abilities should include a greater number of stored droids depending on your DE skill.
- Ability to have a droid called at the same time as a pet - This was "supposed" to have been added in Publish 7 but I am still unable to have a mount and a droid called at the same time. Maybe it will go in with Publish 8, but I am very doubtfull.
- Chasis for the following droids: WED Treadwell, Advanced R5, Advanced DZ-70, Advanced MSE Mouse - Possibility of being added in Publish 8, but doubtfull.
- Increased information being displayed on droid deads - We *ALL* want the info on droid deeds to be changed. A droid deed should show the overal medical ability, overal storage capacity, all crafting stations, armour rating, armour resists, HAM and combat details (to hit, speed and dmg range). All of this information is VERY important when selling a droid
- Ability to colour a droid during construction and have the colour remain when the droid is tamed - This was in during beta when we didn't have to use deeds and it was VERY handy. Now that droids retain colours, I would like to see this come back in.
- Increased amount on droid customisation - 20 calls is not enough considering you have to store/call everytime you shuttle. For a DE traveling around selling droids I find I have to re-paint my R2 praticaly every day. This should be increased to ATLEAST 100 calls.
- R2 units to gain a "default customisation". Randomly changing colours until painted may be ok with some customers, but with many it has become a reason NOT to own an R2 unit. If we have to suffer customisation fading then these droids should gain a default colour like all the rest. Idealy, the default colour should be dynamic and set back tothe colour used during the droid's construction.
- Ability to name "talking" droids
- Ability to use numbers in the droid name
- Multiple crafting stations now work in the same droid, but having multiple droids within 10m with multiple crafting stations causes them to stop functioning
And things I think should be added as an "extra":
- Include all of the combat models that have already been created by the arts department. Even if they remain as level 10 pets, the DE community is begging for new droids to build. Since these have already been done, I suggest giving the community what they want .. droideka, battledroids etc.. however weak they are.
can't help but agree too...its a good list
And, you are right, we will likely not have the Dev's attention for a long, long, time after Pub 8.
- Ability for DE's to have more than one droid called at once -
Ya !
- Ability for DE's to have more than 5 droids stored depending on their DE skill -
Ya !
- I realise this brings up the issue of extra droids = extra storage space =
The way to fix that is simply to put a cap of 50 max items stored in data pad storage stuff. Just like your inventory is limited no matter how many (unequipped) packs and pouches you carry.
But,, they would have to do a little programing to accomplish this. I wont hold my breath.
- Ability to have a droid called at the same time as a pet -
Ya !
- Increased information being displayed on droid deads - We *ALL* want the info on droid deeds to be changed.
Ya ! ALL, the info !
I would Add,
- Ability to Redeed Droids
Ya !
- Ability to name "talking" droids
- Ability to use numbers in the droid name
- Ability to colour a droid during construction and have the colour remain when the droid is tamed -
- Increased amount on droid customisation -
Ya, all would be nice. But not as urgent as above
- Chasis for the following droids: WED Treadwell, Advanced R5, Advanced DZ-70, Advanced MSE Mouse -
They say that deeds will display the droid when dropped in publish 8
- R2 units to gain a "default customisation".
I dissagree here. Randomly changing colours on My 'Rainbow' R2 are cool !
- Include all of the combat models that have already been created by the arts department. Even if they remain as level 10 pets,
Nah, we need them as higher level droids with a cert system. Lev 10 droidika ?, nah.
/bow
Vampiric_Hoshi wrote:
I know people go over subjects like this a million times, but I just want to get this off my chest. After experiencing Publish 7 on live and reading thoroughly through the intended changes for Publish 8, I've compiled a small list of things *I* personaly think are very important to this profession that is being left out of our biggest (and likely to be only) set of publishes.
To paraphrase Obi-Wan and Yoda...
Obi-Wan (worried): That [publish 8] was our last hope...
Yoda (mysteriously): No, there is another....
note: I'm not talking about P9 (or any particularly named/numbered publish)
If you agree or have more to add, feel free to post. Remember that there is still time to convince the devs to make changes for publish 8.
Not really a ton of time, no.
Things that were left out:
- Ability for DE's to have more than one droid called at once - How many of you would like to stand in the street with 5 droids sitting in a row waiting for your next customer to sell them off too? I, personaly, would love to sell my droids in a similar manner to the "line up" the Jawa's had in ANH.
I suppose we might be able to get a way to have more than one 'display' model called. I'll check on that but don't hold your breath on this one.
- Ability for DE's to have more than 5 droids stored depending on their DE skill - I realise this brings up the issue of extra droids = extra storage space = more stress on the database, but we all want DE to have some droid abilities that non-DE do not. I think one of those abilities should include a greater number of stored droids depending on your DE skill.
I think we could 'sell' this. Clients often want to see the droids that we can sell. Being able to have some of each to call and show (but only display version?) would be a good way to do this. I'll have to check on it (read: no promises).
- Ability to have a droid called at the same time as a pet - This was "supposed" to have been added in Publish 7 but I am still unable to have a mount and a droid called at the same time. Maybe it will go in with Publish 8, but I am very doubtfull.
I think this has been verified enough to be called a "bug". It's already been submitted as such, so we may see a fix for calling both a CL10 creature and CL10 droid soon (but no ETA).
- Chasis for the following droids: WED Treadwell, Advanced R5, Advanced DZ-70, Advanced MSE Mouse - Possibility of being added in Publish 8, but doubtfull.
We are getting the 'display model' type feature, such that we can make furniture/display versions of ALL droids. Coming in Publish 8...and that's not a possibility. It's a done deal.
- Increased information being displayed on droid deads - We *ALL* want the info on droid deeds to be changed. A droid deed should show the overal medical ability, overal storage capacity, all crafting stations, armour rating, armour resists, HAM and combat details (to hit, speed and dmg range). All of this information is VERY important when selling a droid
I've already put this one on the list. It's more of a feature request than a "bug" but I have it on the short list. It might not make it for a bit...but they know we want this (and should be able to understand the reasons why we need, in comparison to what other professions get for this info./stat windows).
- Ability to colour a droid during construction and have the colour remain when the droid is tamed - This was in during beta when we didn't have to use deeds and it was VERY handy. Now that droids retain colours, I would like to see this come back in.
Check out my post on this. Basically...this was removed on the way to making 'display' models happen.
I believe, down the line, we won't color the 'chassis'. Any custom coloring to build a display model will happen after the product is built. We WILL get this capability back so that we can build custom colored droids for peoples' houses again.
- Increased amount on droid customisation - 20 calls is not enough considering you have to store/call everytime you shuttle. For a DE traveling around selling droids I find I have to re-paint my R2 praticaly every day. This should be increased to ATLEAST 100 calls.
Instead of this, I think we're going to see that all players will be able to paint their own droids using the kit. But, of course, only DEs can make them. I'd have to suspect that the number of colors available will be dependent on the level of the DE that makes the paint kit. So...the number of calls will matter less. If you need to repaint your droid, you won't have to find a DE...you'll just pull a paint kit you bought and do it yourself. If you don't want to paint it....no need to use the kit.
- R2 units to gain a "default customisation". Randomly changing colours until painted may be ok with some customers, but with many it has become a reason NOT to own an R2 unit. If we have to suffer customisation fading then these droids should gain a default colour like all the rest. Idealy, the default colour should be dynamic and set back tothe colour used during the droid's construction.
This situation I describe above should resolve this. Two birds, one stone.
- Ability to name "talking" droids
Yea...I'd like to see this too. I know it would make Audio happy too.
- Ability to use numbers in the droid name
I'll bring this up. Perhaps we can make sure that any of the 'famous' / EU number combinations are disallowed but all others are okay. I am pretty sure they don't want 1000s of "R2-D2" droids running about.
- Multiple crafting stations now work in the same droid, but having multiple droids within 10m with multiple crafting stations causes them to stop functioning.
Do what you can to verify this. I thought we got this nailed down. If you can definitely reproduce this, I need to let them know so we can get it in the bug-fix queue.
And things I think should be added as an "extra":
- Include all of the combat models that have already been created by the arts department. Even if they remain as level 10 pets, the DE community is begging for new droids to build. Since these have already been done, I suggest giving the community what they want .. droideka, battledroids etc.. however weak they are.
Hhhrmmm...I'll see what I can do, but don't hold your breath on this one.
Respectfully,
TheRealTK421 wrote:
Vampiric_Hoshi wrote:
Things that were left out:
- Ability for DE's to have more than one droid called at once - How many of you would like to stand in the street with 5 droids sitting in a row waiting for your next customer to sell them off too? I, personaly, would love to sell my droids in a similar manner to the "line up" the Jawa's had in ANH.
I suppose we might be able to get a way to have more than one 'display' model called. I'll check on that but don't hold your breath on this one.
Why 'display model' Only ??? It the LEAST they could do for DEs to have two droids out. All this Hybrid DE talk. Having Two droids out isnt too much to put on Novice DE If there is agument about that ('wonders' Never Cease!) Then At Leat at Master DE or whatever. Two Lev 10 combat droids, for DEs, are not going to theaten Anyone. If we ever get higher level droids, Then we could impliment a total max level restriction like CHs.
- Ability for DE's to have more than 5 droids stored depending on their DE skill - I realise this brings up the issue of extra droids = extra storage space = more stress on the database, but we all want DE to have some droid abilities that non-DE do not. I think one of those abilities should include a greater number of stored droids depending on your DE skill.
I think we could 'sell' this. Clients often want to see the droids that we can sell. Being able to have some of each to call and show (but only display version?) would be a good way to do this. I'll have to check on it (read: no promises).
Again Why, display models only ? only problen is the storage max. Which they can fix as i described above
- Increased amount on droid customisation - 20 calls is not enough considering you have to store/call everytime you shuttle. For a DE traveling around selling droids I find I have to re-paint my R2 praticaly every day. This should be increased to ATLEAST 100 calls.
Instead of this, I think we're going to see that all players will be able to paint their own droids using the kit. But, of course, only DEs can make them. I'd have to suspect that the number of colors available will be dependent on the level of the DE that makes the paint kit. So...the number of calls will matter less. If you need to repaint your droid, you won't have to find a DE...you'll just pull a paint kit you bought and do it yourself. If you don't want to paint it....no need to use the kit.
Like as has been said alot, 20 calls is not enough. I would make it go on vehicles when they get to like 25% condition. on droids maby 50% vitality or somthing.
(multi droids /w crafting stations bug)
Do what you can to verify this. I thought we got this nailed down. If you can definitely reproduce this, I need to let them know so we can get it in the bug-fix queue.
If this is intermittent, Could it be when two craft stations are both about the same distance from one player ?
And I would like to add. Drop In Batteries ! Either into item storage units. Or into a power pool like a havester has.
we _really_ should be able to have more droids in our pad than non-de's. People are always amazed when they find out i have the same # as them. It really bites. I havent been able to play with the new combat droids because I cant spare a droid slot.
In fact, the "naming the droid" idea could be even better..
1) When the droid is tame it gains a chasis-specific random ID (i.e. R2-D2). This ID appearsas the droid's name.
2) When the owner re-names the droid, the name goes through the same name filter for continuity sakes, so no droids called "Luke-Skywalker". However, the ID the droid originaly gained now appears beside the name in brackets. I.E. Whistler (R2-D2)
This gives usseveral things:
1) Allows droids to finaly have proper "droidy" names.
2) Allows the owner to customise the droid's name while retaining its original ID
3) Keeps the creation of the droid more realistic in the "star wars" sense as all droids SHOULD be given their ID's upon creation. Whatever name your droid has, it still has its own ID