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Thread: Why can't DE's be like CH

zeeraz
Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:44 pm
#1

My question to the devs is why can't they make the DE's like the Ch's. I mean I guess I can understand why they only want CL 10 droid for the general classes, but why can't De's get stronger droids as they go up tiers like Ch's. And why can't a high level DE pull out 2 droid like a Ch can pull out 2 creatures. I guess I just don't under stand how hard could it be to implement, I mean their already doing it for one class? All you De's out there you have to admit that would make being a DE worth while wouldn't it.
IdiotFool
Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:18 pm
#2

1- NO, it wouldn't make it worthwhile, since your market base would be other droid engineers who can make the exact same droids. Do you really think someone who can make thatdroid would buy it from you?


2- DE is more like BE, and Bio-Engineers cannot use the pets they create.


3- Making CL>10 droids is in the work, but they don't know how to implement it. Have a DE function like a BE/CH would be terrible, though.
BlueStreak2002
Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:29 pm
#3






zeeraz wrote:

My question to the devs is why can't they make the DE's like the Ch's. I mean I guess I can understand why they only want CL 10 droid for the general classes, but why can't De's get stronger droids as they go up tiers like Ch's. And why can't a high level DE pull out 2 droid like a Ch can pull out 2 creatures. I guess I just don't under stand how hard could it be to implement, I mean their already doing it for one class? All you De's out there you have to admit that would make being a DE worth while wouldn't it.







Well I think there was a big outcry that DE's in general didn't want to be known as a combat class.. We are in this to be CRAFTERS not certified DROID Handlers.. The only way this is going to be solved is for them to just make a new Droid Handler class which they were throwing up.. make it the same line as Creature Handler.. Cause in this day an age why can't us Droid Engineers make a Superior machine to the Rancor... Maybe have limited shields in them which need to be replaced or power up weapon deals... And of course a Decay based on how much they get incapped or Ripped apart..


That would solve most if not all the problems..


1) DE's get a nice new marketable item eg.. Combat droids that are worth something more than selling the stuff that makes em..


2) EVERYONE get's a nice new play thing.. ability to upgrade it if you want for that extra edge..


3) Some proffession that's on the lines of Creature handler..


4) And isn't it about time Starwars started making droids actually exciting to OWN.. I mean we have seen em in action in the movies if they had wanted them to be useless pieces of furniture.. Why not just add em to Architect Furniture..


Sorry was starting out to answer ya post.. Ended up ranting a bit lol..


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Naufragus
Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:50 pm
#4

DROIDS FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!
OoseTykia
Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:03 pm
#5

Thank you, Naufragus, for your enlightening post.


*sighs*


Anyway - I really don't think the Devs have the first clue what the heck to do with us as a class. Seriously. SOE's tanked us from the get-go, and obviously Lucas Arts could give a hoot about their Brand Name. "Poke-wars? Um...is it gonna earn us revenue? Oh...ok then. Go to it." The Devs don't care. They've got more pressing game issues to deal with. We're not their top priority. We never HAVE been, despite what they say to the contrary. So don't expect to see a Red Name posting here.


TK, darlin', I know you wanted us to stay positive. But there's only so many times a dog will allow itself to be kicked before he finally turns around and rips his master's foot off. *chuckles*I'm still behind you, as are many of us here. You're doing the best you can with what you've been given. Which ain't a lot.


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DavidHarper
Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:34 pm
#6

I think there should be a "Droid Commander" class. So you would have Bio-Engineers making creatures for Creature Handelers, and Droid Engineers making Droids for Droid Commanders I think that would be a good solution, then we will be allowed to make good droids and have someone to sell them too.


Of course the "Ultimate" Droid would be the Destoyer Droid rolling along and its shield poping up and then its 4 blasters fireing, that would be too cool


Of course you have to think about continuity in Star Wars for example where are all the battle droids in Ep's 4-6 something must hapen in Episode 3 which either a)makes battle droids against the law or b) totaly useless in some way. Cos I doubt 1 Storm Trooper could take on 1 Destoyer Droid, maybe Ion Cannons render them useless? Or the problem is once you take out the control point they all shut down.



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Ishbu7703
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:44 pm
#7

Why dont you guys realize that you screwed yourselves. Instead of selling combat droids to just droid engineers you now get to sell them to NOBODY! How in the world is not having any cool droids better than DE's being the only ones to use them



You guys shot yourselves in the foot and then complained that it hurt.





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Rhatella
Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:58 am
#8

hey ishbu


if you haven't noticed, there's plenty bitterness here without some ..... guy... coming in here and trolling to make us even more upset.


take your accusations and your half-baked rationale elsewhere. we just want droid to be cool, okay?


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Echewarr
Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:10 am
#9

Hes right though :/
Shian_Tavkin
Fri Mar 19, 2004 4:22 am
#10






Echewarr wrote:

Hes right though :/







No he is not right, and it would take too long to explain why..if you want to know, then its all here somewhere to read.


Add to that the statement from Runesabre saying he (the Devs) do not want to do this, and thats about all you need to know


Over and over this comes up..it is an old and past discussion..the water went under the bridge weeks and weeks ago.




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Phhantom
Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:08 am
#11


1- NO, it wouldn't make it worthwhile, since your market base would be other droid engineers who can make the exact same droids. Do you really think someone who can make thatdroid would buy it from you?



WTH is worthwhile NOW?????????? FRICKEN NOTHING



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Redondo
Fri Mar 19, 2004 9:41 am
#12

You know I dont know what is best whether we have a DH profession or a Droid Commander profession or if we just give uber combat droids to the DEs. What we have now is really nothing more than what we did have. The Droid Stim, big deal, when your droid dies in 3 seconds you cnat heal them that fast at all. Now everyone is saying the DEs shot themselves in the foot for arguing utility over combat or whatver. The way I see it, crafting or not we got nothing before and nothing now. I dont have a single droid now that is more desirable than any droid I had before. OK maybe a little more desirable, but really, when you compare us to the other crafting classes, what they can make, what they can add in the way of enhancements, experimentation, and the constant flow of return customers and loyal customer base, we are nothing. I made money and got more respect as a novice medic getting tips in the med center than I do asDE. I really love crafting in this game and I really love crafting droids, but all my money is derived from resource sales and MA components. I read the other forums for the galaxies and everyone is looking for BER 13 heavy harvesters, krayt T21s, 90% composite armor, vasarian brandy, BE enhanced foods and clothes, etc....... I also read a lot of the other professions boards and sure they have their own complaints as well, but overall most of them are happy. I mean go to the Swordsman board and there biggest complaint is uber loot isnt dropping in the nightsister cave whenthey solo it. Squad Leaders seem strangely cheery and patient, and the biggest compaint to hit the WS and AS boards was the crafting change.


So is this the most negative board in the forums, probably. And why is that? Are we all just horrible little people with nothing better to do than complain. I dont think so, I think this profession is extremely screwed up. I could care less about uber combat droids, DH, droidekas, disco-bot, whatever, they would probably all be really great additions to the game, but to me the main issue is that we have no way to support our fellow players except with medical droids. The combat droids are pathetic and IMO stupid looking, the crafting stations and med modules are a big help, but you buy one and you're set, the BLL holds as many items as an MSE droid, what?. I mastered architect recently and the amount of salable items (i.e final products) is phenomonal. Sure they have their share of subcomponents to run through factories and the resoruce requirements are down right scary, but we have about twice the amount of subcomponents for about 1/10 of the final products. Something needs to be done with DE and something positive. We need more expendable products too. Why cant the ad barker droid and entertainer droid be charge related to operate for a fixed duration then disappear. I can't even imagine what cantinas are going to look like with ten droids out spamming effects in every random spot of the cantina, and then someone pulls out there maklok for kicks, good times.


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Ishbu7703
Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:36 pm
#13

You can call me a troll all you want but the fact remains that you guys screwed yourselves not the developers. You have no one to blame but yourselves. I know I sure wont be buying many droids from you guys, cause they are hecka lame.



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