Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: Droids Rebuilt ? any new schematics from Test Center yet ?
/bow
Respectfully,
TheRealTK421 wrote:
The next publish, Droids Rebuilt (Publish 8), hasn't been posted to TC yet. So, no...no info yet.
/bow
Respectfully,
This is precisely what I was talking about elsewhere. Why do we have to wait till a 'thing' is on TC before it can even be discussed? The old excuse of 'well some things might not make it to live' is pure hogwash, it's being secretive that has got them into this mess with every profession in the game, and I thought you said they were learning communication skills.
Open and Honest is the way, and if they stumble they might find some sympathy. "Here it is - take it or leave it" is no way to keep your customers coming back for more every month.
Hmm
This is precisely what I was talking about elsewhere. Why do we have to wait till a 'thing' is on TC before it can even be discussed? The old excuse of 'well some things might not make it to live' is pure hogwash, it's being secretive that has got them into this mess with every profession in the game, and I thought you said they were learning communication skills.
Because if we got more detail before going to TC they could never pull out the "Well, it's too far along in the development process for major changes now ..." line that they've used 4 or 5 times so far .... can't expect them to unilaterally disarm.
Shian_Tavkin wrote:
...and I thought you said they were learning communication skills.
Open and Honest is the way, and if they stumble they might find some sympathy. "Here it is - take it or leave it" is no way to keep your customers coming back for more every month.
Hmm
SOE does not need to change their approach to their customers. You see, they are holding all the cards. The only way things will get changed if it you "vote with dollars" and quit playing. By quitting, you are not helping yourself, you are helping the players who still pay. SOE knows this and will never be forced to change since we want things to change for us and we must keep playing to ever see that happen.
From a business point of view, they have all the power and a system in place that ensures they keep the power /shrug
/ROFL unilaterally disarm!
KzinKiller wrote:
This is precisely what I was talking about elsewhere. Why do we have to wait till a 'thing' is on TC before it can even be discussed? The old excuse of 'well some things might not make it to live' is pure hogwash, it's being secretive that has got them into this mess with every profession in the game, and I thought you said they were learning communication skills.
Because if we got more detail before going to TC they could never pull out the "Well, it's too far along in the development process for major changes now ..." line that they've used 4 or 5 times so far .... can't expect them to unilaterally disarm.
SOE's way of thinking has always amazed me. The same stuff that is happening here in SWG happened in EQ years ago. People screamed for changes forever and nothing much materialized and then up jumps DAOC and SB and people flowed away from EQ and SOE says, "No wait! Don't go, we've decided to make EQ2 that will fix everything." /boggle Why build a new game? LOL Just fix what you got. Sheesh.
Hopefully, our saving grace here is that if they screw things up enough LucasArts will step in and flex their muscle and force them to either make it right or turn it off. Should the later happen...well...many people are already talking WoW anyway and Dark and Light is on the horizon.
I'm not a DE, came here today looking for info because I thought about becoming a DE. What I have read today has convinced me that this isn't what I was hoping to find. I feel for you DE's, I hope you guys can make it to the same level of CH's at least...as it relates to droids in CL andcombat.
KzinKiller wrote:
This is precisely what I was talking about elsewhere. Why do we have to wait till a 'thing' is on TC before it can even be discussed? The old excuse of 'well some things might not make it to live' is pure hogwash, it's being secretive that has got them into this mess with every profession in the game, and I thought you said they were learning communication skills.
Because if we got more detail before going to TC they could never pull out the "Well, it's too far along in the development process for major changes now ..." line that they've used 4 or 5 times so far .... can't expect them to unilaterally disarm.
No?
Well perhaps they are so stupid that they learnt nothing from the crafting changes debacle, but one would hope not.
Perhaps they also learnt nothing from the Droid Commander suggestion, shot down by the whole player base, not just DE.
I do expect improved communications, I do, and TK also seems to feel its likely. If I'm wrong I'll be gone and no problem to anyone anymore.
DialUp wrote:
Shian_Tavkin wrote:
...and I thought you said they were learning communication skills.
Open and Honest is the way, and if they stumble they might find some sympathy. "Here it is - take it or leave it" is no way to keep your customers coming back for more every month.
Hmm
SOE does not need to change their approach to their customers. You see, they are holding all the cards. The only way things will get changed if it you "vote with dollars" and quit playing. By quitting, you are not helping yourself, you are helping the players who still pay. SOE knows this and will never be forced to change since we want things to change for us and we must keep playing to ever see that happen.
From a business point of view, they have all the power and a system in place that ensures they keep the power /shrug
I know only too well they think they hold all the cards, but somehow even with that advantage they dont seem to be winning the game do they? Players leaving in droves is not what I would call winning. The marketing department is on overtime and still they dont understand the basic rule...word of mouth counts more. I have personally put over 50 people off playing this game, I'm not proud of it, its just a fact..and why? Cos its showing no signs of improving past a beta stage. I tell them come back a year from now..that seems wise and good advice to me.
Now voting with dollars is valid - indeed it is, but its far better to be on the inside fighting your corner, and at the same time speaking very frankly to your local gameshop about it. They dont like product returns, least not in my country they dont, so if anyone asks them 'is this good?' at least I know I helped them answer the question honestly. Since its a big chainstore, even better, they feed up to head office. Maybe I'm lucky to have a store that refunds any title if you dont like it, but the UK is like that..customer care.Game mags are also a good feedback point, its amazing what a well written letter can spawn. Not as a published letter, but as a review comment. SOE do not hold all the cards as you think they do, they just win cos everyone thinks they will win, and forget there are other ways of fighting a cause beyond a much ignored forum.
Not that I'd advocate any such action, just a purely hypothetical response to your comment.
Still, whatever you believe you believe. I want to make things better.
Ain't that the sad, sick truth.
DialUp wrote:
Shian_Tavkin wrote:
...and I thought you said they were learning communication skills.
Open and Honest is the way, and if they stumble they might find some sympathy. "Here it is - take it or leave it" is no way to keep your customers coming back for more every month.
Hmm
SOE does not need to change their approach to their customers. You see, they are holding all the cards. The only way things will get changed if it you "vote with dollars" and quit playing. By quitting, you are not helping yourself, you are helping the players who still pay. SOE knows this and will never be forced to change since we want things to change for us and we must keep playing to ever see that happen.
From a business point of view, they have all the power and a system in place that ensures they keep the power /shrug