Droid Engineer Archive

Thread: Fellow DE we need to stand up for our class

Aragont
Fri Oct 03, 2003 7:52 am
#1

I dont think we should sit herewhile the devs walk over us. The more we shout the sooner the fixes come. If we do nothing the fixes may never come.


I read apost by Holocron saying that droids should be as strong as creatures. When is the happeing ? IS that going to Happen?


We are entire class, not a combat special that can be ignored.


It makes me sick when i read the posts from out correspondent,saying we should wait quietly,should not be saying that we should wait paciently, she should be harassing the devs everyday for fixes. She should harass them to the point that they threaten to fire here. And when they do that the forums blow up.


We will not sitwhile they fix combat specials and lair hp. We should be one of their number one priortie.


I want this post to be the first of many from DE fightiung for our class. Lets this act as a petition and a motivation. OUR CLASS WILL NOT DIE WHILE WE SIT QUIETLY!! WE WILL NO LONGER BE PACIFISTS!!


Please lets work together, get this proffession fixed and put droids on the map


Poesidan


Flurry

FeartheMullet
Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:02 am
#2

Haleluhia! Fight the Power!!!




Myk Rapajez : Droid Engineer
Starsider : Corellia : Coronet
Bendar
Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:02 am
#3

I am slowly getting fed up with this all. Haven't made a droid in weeks. Our profession is in a "beta" state.

I probably won't be making droids till we get some dev attention. Experimentation is a joke, customization only works on frames at this time, repair is borked. (Unless you consider a droid with a repair module fixing wounds repair). Clusters can be stacked into non cluster droids. And that's just a few "bugs". I shudder when I think of the so called "Elite-Elite" professions. Let's first fix what's broken, then add more professions.

This game has so much potential. I sincerely hope they'll fix it pretty soon.

Sorry about this rant, but seeing our brave combat droid (let's not even mention the DZ-70 here) pale in comparison to the non-CH pets makes me slightly irritated. Somehow I always thought that Star Wars was more about droids than creatures.

Welcome to **edit** Online all..



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Bendar
Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:03 am
#4

Hmm **edit** is filtered?



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Bendar
Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:05 am
#5

Well, it's not filtered in sigs, so what kind of online -> see sig



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CyprianCarthage
Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:12 am
#6

It will do no good to complain, to reason, to beg, to ask nicely, to rant, because,


IT IS A PURE NUMBERS GAME,


and there are probably 1000 CH's per 1 DE. Gotta please the majority of customers with the limited resources they have. This is a good lesson for all of us in Real Life economics, the true driving force behind Star Wars Galaxies: Return of the Cowardly Gurreck (TM).




"May you sleep well, and dream of Droideka" -- Traditional Droid Engineer blessing

Cyprian Carthage
Master Droid Engineer in Coronet City (Naritus)
Droid Shop SE of town: 676, -5385
TeileIceblade
Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:13 am
#7

Please CH's they baby them they can hold 16 pets they make more sells than us and there a combat class. They need no more work.



"Ty-ren" Master Droid Engineer "Shadowfire"
Vuri
Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:13 am
#8

Quite frankly, yelling isn't going to do any good. We don't have the numbers we need. They've basically said that they fixed other classes first because they had more numbers. The only real way I think you *may* get their attention is if there is a mass exodus of DEs moving to other professions or quitting the game all together. Why will that work? In two ways I think.

First, they're all into looking at metrics to make decisions or start investigating something. If they see Droid Engineers at the bottom of that list of metrics, we may get their attention.

Second, when other classes start actually making noise because they can't get a medical droid anymore, then MAYBE that'll get their attention.

However, I really don't think either of those will work. They've SAID that they KNOW our class is fubar. But, they've also implied/said/insinuated that it will be a while before they get to us because they don't know what they're going to do to fix us. I also think that the likely do have someone working on some new combat droids. However, given their track record, nothing makes me think that they'll implement it in any sane or useful way.



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Bendar
Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:16 am
#9

It's not that I don't understand that the developers spend their energy on the CHs, it's the most popular class after all.

I do think that the whole CH setup was a bad design decision. And then, giving everybody access to the "basic" pets, well, what can I say...

Kinda makes you wonder why probots needed to be nerfed, when the non-ch pets are more powerful than a pre-nerf probot.



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Graige
Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:28 am
#10

I just hit novice DE but I'll sign. I'm sick of seeing all the **edit** pets. I don't remember seeing the rebels popping pet grauls into X-Wings or Jedi Starfighters. I might have missed that part each one of the 100s of times I've watched the movies though.



Graige
0010 Pistoleer
Moenia - Naboo
Soon to be selling hides, bone, and meats.
standup_philosopher
Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:33 am
#11

I've worked in corporate software development enough to know that you NEVER get to ship a product that's completely finished. It's life.. it sucks... get a helmet if you can't deal with all the suction.. (of course,my company wouldbe driven into the cold, cold earth if we shipped a product with bugs like SWG, but I digress)


The part ofthe SWGstrategy that annoys me is.. they shipped the software with a looooong list of known defects just to get some income rolling in. Fine, I understand that flawed philosophy. I don't agree with it, but I understand it. The strategy is that with the fresh income, you increase your developer and support staffto fix bugs at a much higher rate than when you were developing with a static budget. This is my problem with SOE.. they bragged on the front page of this website that they had 278,000 registered players.. whether or not that includes multiple accounts is irrelevant.. that equates to 4.1 MILLION DOLLARS A MONTH!! What are they doing with all of OUR money? Last time I checked, a software developer isn't cheap, but you can still hire a whole battalion of them, complete with leasing a fully-loaded building for them to work in for that kind of dough!!Oh, and last time I checked SOE wasn't exactly in the poor house to begin with.


Anyway, that's my rant. I'm more than cozy with the fact that we got a product that wasn't finished, but to pocket the income and develop at the same or slower rate is robbery.. and last time I checked, $4.1M wasn't considered a misdemeanor.


Cheers,




JTL beta: ILIUM - the drunken Ithorian skipper

Mirius Barakiel
MasterDE -ZAM Enterprises- Wildfire Plains, Dantooine, Sunrunner

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duncje
Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:36 am
#12

The problemwith pushing for QUICK change is it increases the likelihood that those changes will be bugged. Which will be even worse, so instead of not selling droids, we'd have bugged droids, and the tell-hell that comes with that. Coding new features takes time, figure at least a month from the time they decide on the fixes. A band-aid won't fix DE, it needs extensive surgery.



Beebo
Master Droid Engineer | Shipwright | Master Artisan
Crazy Beebo's Discount Droids & Ships {-1075 -2924} Bestine, Tatooine

AmbassadorFrito
Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:39 am
#13

Read Sintrosi's post a couple weeks ago. All hope for the next few months is lost.



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