Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: Squad Leader(please read)
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Didious-Falco
Mon Feb 02, 2004 3:17 pm
#1
Someone else had mentioned this before and I think it is utter brilliance. I shall elaborate on my opinion to solve issues with 3 classes (I am in no way saying I am right, merely saying what I think is a cool idea). The Squad Leader class is a very hollow class, why not add these abilities:
1: Since they are leaders why not place + to damage/attack rateing (or what ever mod) throughout the Squad Leader trees for droids and pets, this would make them tougher so more people would want a CL 10 pet.
2: Add + to droid level in the SL tree, so at master maybe they can have a CL 20? or 25? droid? (or higher..) and maybe the same in the DE master a + to droid skills, everyonecould have an innate CL 10 skill with droids, so the SL and DE both get pluses to this. (in theorythe master DE could dabble in SL and get a fairly powerful droid, or visa versca).
3: The abilites such as rally and group shot (or something like that) would be most effective with droids(pets in general) because as an npc there wouldn't be any whining from people thathave there avatar directed
. Also it would make the proffesion an actual leader, then a group buffer guy....thingy...class......dude.........yea.....
. Also it would make the proffesion an actual leader, then a group buffer guy....thingy...class......dude.........yea.....4: Again about the mods, the SL could have anything, like added HAM bonuses, speed, damage, accuracy, this would make the CH pets, Droid pets, and Squad leaders much more popular and balanced..(?).
These are just my poorly assembled ideas, feel free to pick away at them, but please, I am only 18, no life scarring messages
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Didious-Falco
Mon Feb 02, 2004 5:40 pm
#2
kinda forgot to say I think the Squad Leader desserves this. As a 'leading'-type class his skills should involve benifites for the group and the group tertiary(sp?) members, i.e. pets (droids and creatures).So it is within reason that the SL should be able to control these pets becuase of his supposed role, now the devs havn't really turned the SL into this kind of guy (many of his skills are under developt) but it is not a fair cry to think that this is possible.
Didious-Falco
Tue Feb 03, 2004 6:05 pm
#3
bleh...thought it was pure genius, oh well...heh, anyway, another question, why is it I always have to do a search to find my posts, and when I find them it will not show the replys to the post. It is very confusing for me 
Uklei-Yuma
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:43 pm
#4
I like the idea...although, I'm not sure you're the first to suggest giving driod class lvl's to SL, you thought it out well and your ideas give some good abilities to a very empty class.
One question, tho. Would you really just want the SL's bonuses to a group to be passive? What about having them be able to switch bonuses based upon the direction of a fight. IOW, if a fight is going badly, the SL of the group would be able to move all his group bonuses to defensive (vs. ranged or melee). That way there would be some stategy and thought behind the actions a SL could perform.
One question, tho. Would you really just want the SL's bonuses to a group to be passive? What about having them be able to switch bonuses based upon the direction of a fight. IOW, if a fight is going badly, the SL of the group would be able to move all his group bonuses to defensive (vs. ranged or melee). That way there would be some stategy and thought behind the actions a SL could perform.
Nyght
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:25 pm
#5
Yes Didious... SL has been the obvious suggestion by many as the appropriate place to putdroid certs.
It is a fact of life however, that mostDEs, much like the French, have thrown up our arms in surrender before even a few shots were fired.
It will be forever our shame.
Viva La Droids!
JediKnightMark
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:30 pm
#6
Oh goody, lets take away from the minorityDE profession what little ground we have left to stand on and give it to the majority, a combat profession. Would you like to come over to my place and *selfedit* my sister too?
GnomeAd
Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:40 pm
#7
Ya know, I can't decide what's worse. Getting reamed by the devs, or this stuff coming from the bottom feeders of the other professions.
"Bounty Hunters need to get 1337 combat droids".
"Give the combat droids to Squad Leaders, we need some lovin".
"Give combat droids to CHs, we already have pets!".
Gimme a break! This is like people standing around a funeral arguing over who gets the dead guys stuff.
Hillslayer
Thu Feb 05, 2004 12:02 am
#8
So long as I get the sterio... o wait, I'm one of the dead guys. Doh.
SWhitestar
Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:53 am
#9
with regards to giving squad leaders more power i think this is a very short minded view on the idea.
I posted before about giving squadleaders a benefit with regards to droids but it wasnt so much a benefit for them...
The idea was that the squad leader would be able to create droid attack formations (column/wedge/wall etc) with combat droids, giving them a bonus - as someone stated above this would give the droids specific advantages for specific situations. This would also boost sale of droids overall and provides a bonus over having a CH pet.
This again though impacts heavily on the Balance issue the DEVs are promoting so heavily atm
Didious-Falco
Thu Feb 05, 2004 6:11 pm
#10
ok....last time...after this no more bumps....I promise...last time!
Didious-Falco
Thu Feb 05, 2004 7:17 pm
#11
is this a bug, I had to post that last thing to see any of you posts, what the **** is with that? Up until a few hours ago that post read no posts other then my own. The idea I had was something I did not wish to offend anyone with. It was merely a suggestion, negative feed-back is appreciated, but it would be nice if we could at least act quazi-adult when countering something (not anyone in perticular, but forums in general). It is a harsh world, why do people need to make it worse?
EricTheGreat
Thu Feb 05, 2004 8:11 pm
#12
Didious-Falco wrote:
quazi-adult
*sigh* Please dont come back here. Ever. Again.
spearbearer
Thu Feb 05, 2004 8:20 pm
#13
We are DEs. We know nothing about being treated fair, hope or something called salvation. We are a bunch of mean and disillusioned lunatics. We drink inert petrochemical - polymer and eat duralloy steel. We pray to goods of steel, without any hope of being heard. We don't know the meaning of the word "mercy".
That may explain the reations to you initial post.
Besides that, we are nice people... well, at least we try.
To be honest your idea isn't the worst I ever heard. But it is a little bit limiting. Why give only SL some droids? In my opinion it would be far better if every Master skill would have the certification for a profession specific droid or droid module.
Maybe something like this:
Master Artisan - A droid module which reduces the critical fail rate.
Master Bio Engineer - A module which bosts the HAM of engineered creatures by 5%.
Master Chef - A module which reduces the resource requirements by 5%.
Master Droid Engineer - A droid which conquers the galaxy for us
Master Entertainer - A module which reduces the HAM costs by 10%
Master Fencer - I have no idea because I don't know anything about that profession.
e.t.c.
This way DEs would make a bunch of money, and everybody would benefit from the new modules.
That may explain the reations to you initial post.
Besides that, we are nice people... well, at least we try.
To be honest your idea isn't the worst I ever heard. But it is a little bit limiting. Why give only SL some droids? In my opinion it would be far better if every Master skill would have the certification for a profession specific droid or droid module.
Maybe something like this:
Master Artisan - A droid module which reduces the critical fail rate.
Master Bio Engineer - A module which bosts the HAM of engineered creatures by 5%.
Master Chef - A module which reduces the resource requirements by 5%.
Master Droid Engineer - A droid which conquers the galaxy for us
Master Entertainer - A module which reduces the HAM costs by 10%
Master Fencer - I have no idea because I don't know anything about that profession.
e.t.c.
This way DEs would make a bunch of money, and everybody would benefit from the new modules.
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