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Thread: Which star wars is gospel???

CavemanGamer
Mon Dec 08, 2003 2:37 pm
#1

The movies are the only "cannon" as far as George Lucas is concerned.


Games need a little flexibility in order to be fun.



For example, "real" war (I was in the persian gulf in 1990)is best defined as: waiting around foreverin miserable conditions to do something very very very un-fun. (You do it for other reasons, but not because it's "fun").


a "game" about war, one the other hand, needs to be fun.



Similarly, games about Star Wars need to be fun, fair, and balanced, above all else...because it is a game, not a movie. There needs to be some flexibility with the license, and I think Lucas seems to understand that.



Therearentan
Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:04 pm
#2

Actually, there is a strict heirachy(sp?) of canon. It's somewhere on Force.net if the dedicated want to dig for it.


But it goes something along the lines of The Movies supercede all others.


Then the Books for the OT supercede everything except for the Movies, when the OT books and the Movies come into conflict, the Movies win, except for obvious mistakes, such as the rank insignia issues.


From there, I don't remember how the heirachy goes.


And for the record I'm not one of those SW Nerds. I just happened to read a thread on this same topic two or three weeks ago on the HTF forums and remember pieces of it.




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Therearentan
Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:07 pm
#3






Therearentan wrote:

From there, I don't remember how the heirachy goes.





To clarify, I don't remember how it goes, but I know it goes something along the lines of Radio show supercedes this, extended universe supercedes that, RPG supercedes the other thing, etc.



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patchman70
Mon Dec 08, 2003 4:01 pm
#4

Thanks all.. I just wanted to know why the designers didn't use any info used in many sources. There are sooo many creatures, droids, people... ugh! Oh well...


Not my prob... I just pay to play!


G'day all...




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patchman70
Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:22 am
#5

Has anyone played West End Games (d6) star wars? Not the crappy D&D3ed verison out now... I know Mr. Lucas can change anything at anytime but W.E.G. have so much info in them that is now contridicted by the movies and 20d star wars. Which is considered right?


If you look at any of the old books, especially the droid guide, there are sooooo many droids that they could use both combat and helper droids. Sorry but the destroyers aka droideka(sp?) were not in any of the old books or novels and that i assume (gasp!) there were not those kind of droids or creatures that were pets... I understand people love the pets and tanking... but something matching the books and story lines would be nice...


We just need things that are what they should be used for... a probot or droidekasare not something you walk around with.


ugh... sorry just had to get some of it off my chest and this might not be the right place but everyone wanting droids that are cool looking are getting to me.


Start the flames!




Janis Si'ind Greedy Engineer - Si'ind Shipwright
scotchie Greedy shipwright - Si'indicate Droids 2005, 5634
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To quote Uncle Owen on the nge "give us one more season"
goatt_13 "HEY LEY'S PLAY MONOPOLY, BUT SKIP THE RENT PART!!!"
Cyberus-SWG
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Kitsunetsuki
Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:28 am
#6

The official LFL stance is that anything not from movies does not exist in any official way, and is subject to being trumped by George's whim at any time. If he wanted he could make a new movie trilogy that totally contradicts the original Zahn book trilogy and destroys the entire foundation of the Extended Universe. I'm not saying that will happen, and I'm definitely not saying it would be a good idea, but that's the official state of things.
Kitsunetsuki
Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:39 am
#7

(Thus Kits proves he should probably read more closely before replying... I need more coffee.)

Anyhow, because of LFL's refusal to "canonize" anything outside the movies, any questions of authority and continuity are necessarily subjective and relative. On one hand, this allows third party licensees a little leeway in implementing new ideas (unlike the Star Trek license, which heavily restricts writers from every direction). On the other hand, the lack of an "EU Gospel" leads to many, many sad and pathetic nerd screaming matches on the Internet.

I personally take the position (possibly unpopular) that having strict EU continuity adherence is slightly less important than implementing fun-to-play game systems. If that means bunches of players walking around with IG-series assassin droids (which, by all EU accounts should be impossible, or at least very hard to justify -- leaked blueprints, perhaps?) then I can live with that if it's how we add value to the game as a game.
TheWoody
Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:45 am
#8

Flames be dammed! So far I've gained quite a bit of insight into Lucas Films Limited and the Lucas OutLook on all this. Whoever one-starred you should be ashamed



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