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Thread: Humbling asking for DE Support to the Architect Community

Meplorium
Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:01 pm
#66






Barfalomue wrote:


Hmm...none huh? Just 2 days ago, I found a spot with some copper 942 OQ and 890 Conductivity. And to boot, it is onan 85% deposit. That is not "perfect" by any means...but definitely good. It is still plugging away.


As far as metals...lol. Well, I just had 3 heavy extractors sitting on a 79% deposit of 980 OQ steel for about 2 weeks. Just ended last night.

It seems you should spend more time searching for materials than you do complaining on the forums.






That copper is nice and can get you to 40, it does not get you to 44 with the old droid storage units. With the new ones, that copper probably couldn't get you over 40. You may get nice spawns on Tempest, for the short term, enjoy it while it lasts. You can get a week without radioactives. You can go months without good resources. There hasn't been a suitable polymer spawn on Starsider for 6 months. The system gives you a completely random resource and therefore can give you a string of really great stuff or really bad stuff or something inbetween, Do not assume that all servers have the same resources as yours, as you would be very wrong on that assumption. If tempest has great resource, then it is a sure bet some other server has horrid resources.



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Squegul
Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:12 pm
#67

It doesn't matter one bit what the FR of old crafting stations are or what the potential maximum was for them to be. The point is that now, even though it is changed, you can still make the best possible. You say "oh well, there's never any metal with OQ over 50 on my server". Well, if that is true, then using the metal with OQ:50 will produce the best crafting station available for your server. You can always make the best. Don't get stuck in the mentality of "it has to be the absolute best or nothing at all". You will be miserable and not have any fun if you try to live by that doctrine. Don't get hung up on the fact that Server A has better metal than my server. Your server has 1 metal that will yield highest OQ quality. That is the metal to use to make the best stuff. Obviously, there are other stats besides OQ. New DSC's need OQ/CO, well, somwehere out there is a metal with the best possible OQ/Co you're gonna get. Go get it and make a station. That station will be theorietically the best possible. Doesn't matter if others exist that are better, point is that people without one still need to buy one, and they will want the best available, which you can make if you just stop looking for 999 in all the stats. Wow, sorry for badly formatted long run-on rant. =)






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Meplorium
Wed Feb 18, 2004 6:27 pm
#68

This game in a lot of ways is quest centric. The quest to build the best crafting station is now over. The best has already been done and the best you can do is only a failed attempted at past greatness. It is a game play issue far more than a business one. This was one bit of game content that was challenging and fun. The customer has the "absolute best or nothing at all" metality that drives this quest further and makes it even that much more engaging. This nerf kills this entire aspect of the crafting system.


Yes the item can still be made. Yes the item will now suck compared to what could have been built.





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Masen
Wed Feb 18, 2004 8:15 pm
#69

I know, just KNOW this is gonna get ignored/passed over/whatnot..But what the heck, I'll try it. I'm a DE AND an Architect (actually, for the opposite reason..Crafting stations are nice and all, but I wanted my power droids. hehe). Anyhow, a storage compartment..the stats are a bit weird I thought from the start. one..conductivity..WHY?!? I can see the Data storage module taking OQ and Cond...but..well..that's not what this is made to store folks. How about OQ and Unit Toughness? After all, it's job is to hold heavu items without breaking, and also to protect it from possible bangs and bumps. If they wanna nerf, fine, but please...MAKE SENSE ok?!?!



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Barfalomue
Wed Feb 18, 2004 8:33 pm
#70






Meplorium wrote:


...Do not assume that all servers have the same resources as yours, as you would be very wrong on that assumption. If tempest has great resource, then it is a sure bet some other server has horrid resources.




Dude, check cafa's and my server...it is the same. He and I are on the same server. I was poking fun at the fact that he said nothing had come up for a while, when in fact I had just done SOE. I know that the different servers do not offer the same resource spawns.




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Cafa
Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:34 pm
#71



Barfalomue wrote:


Cafa wrote:

Maybe 6 spawns ever of high OQ metals on Tempest, all before Sept 2003.

ONE SPAWN EVER of high OQ/Conductivty copper. Ever.


Hmm...none huh? Just 2 days ago, I found a spot with some copper 942 OQ and 890 Conductivity. And to boot, it is onan 85% deposit. That is not "perfect" by any means...but definitely good. It is still plugging away.

As far as metals...lol. Well, I just had 3 heavy extractors sitting on a 79% deposit of 980 OQ steel for about 2 weeks. Just ended last night.

It seems you should spend more time searching for materials than you do complaining on the forums.






Well, as one of the maintainers for enactive.org and an avid follower of 3 private databases I find no evidence to support your post. There may be a .00001% chance you're correct. But somehow I don't think myself and ever major crafter on the Tempest server missed a 980 OQ Steel spawn. What's the resource name, mate? Ana, Felton, Whirp, Roscoe'p and a few other wanna know too.

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CapnSteve
Thu Feb 19, 2004 1:16 am
#72

Actually, demosthenes810, the whole point of having a database is to make things easier to change. They actually had Q-3PO, who's not a programmer, going through and fixing all the text bugs a couple of weeks ago. If they really need the few extra kb of space they'd free up by only storing the type of exerimentation for an item, well that makes the great melon nerf seem perfectly reasonable.



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Barfalomue
Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:02 am
#73

HAHA...cafa, your ego is the size of a damn 20 story building. You think that because you participate in runninga resource website you are on top of everything? Give me a break. I will note the resource when I get home. I WILL NOT, however, tell you what or where my copper deposit is. If you are too ignorant to find it, that is not my fault...especially after you insult my guild by saying you aren't going to use them for purchasing items and insulting me by calling me a liar.


There remains to be a discrepancy in your information. You said you have been collecting resources for 5 months. But then you said you just got the resources right before the patch...unless you mean the resources you were collecting were for other parts and the resources you got just before patch were meant for the storage compartments.


Even if this is the case...I still ask why you didn't imediately make a schematic. You knew they were changing the way droid storage compartments were made. Sure, they didn't specify each and every little bit of information regarding the change...but, they can not hold your hand like a baby through every step of the process. You can't blame them nor us because you failed to use your opportunity wisely.


I wish you would drop this subject. It is dead...it is over with...there is nothing you can do about it. Get over it and move on. You have been complaining about this for a week...they are not going to change it back because CAFA wants them to. They are not going to change it because you continually offer offensive remarks to Droid Engineers and the Developers. It is what it is...accept it! It is pitiful to see you go on and on and on about this. To what end? What are you hoping to accomplish. They can not and will not change their database structure, whether it can be manipulated or not. Perhaps it WASN'T the best thing for the Dev's to do...but they DID it. If it is really that difficult for you to accept, I suggest you cancel your account and go play another game. You are still paying your $14/month. They are still getting their money. You obviously have some reason for staying in the game. I wish you would drop a dead subject and quit shooting the dead horse.



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Cafa
Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:28 am
#74

I got over it fine. You're the one that keeps making rude jibes and outlandish claims with no proof.

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Barfalomue
Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:07 am
#75

What proof do I need? I have the steel in my inventory and you don't....that is all I need. I know when and where to take advantage of a situation in the game. I know how to cover my own azz...that is all the proof I need. You didn't see me ever complaining because I got screwed over by the DEVs...I read up on the "in development" forum, the "in concept" forum, the "in testing" forum and the "test center galaxy" forum. If I see anything approaching that MIGHT effect me in a bad way, I take care of it immediately. THAT is all the proof I need.


The only thing you have PROVEN here is that YOU DO NOT take the time to read the forums, nor follow information given to us all by the moderators, nor take advantage of a situation even though you are so worried about what you want to achieve in this game. You have proven you are ignorant to the information given and do not take advantage of a situation when it is given. You have proven you are lazy and that you want to blame everyone else for your lack of taking action when you should have but now can't.


There is my stated proof...



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Cafa
Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:18 am
#76

Are you for real? Amazing.

Great attitude here. Really glad I continue to get great service from people like Skeenee and and Kossik cuz you are definitely one class A jerk. I definitely will make sure to pass these quotes of yours around.

You know literally nothing about me, or the helpful work I do everyday to make this game better for the Tempest server as a whole. Next time you finance over 40 people's grinds come talk to me little person. Or donating literally hundreds of millions worth of product to cities and players to make the game more enjoyable.

Blather all you want about suppositions. If ANYONE cared about them I'd be more than happy to disprove, with quotes, the last 5 things you mentioned. It is you that do not read what people, and I have said. Get over yourself.

Ask Robert Conrad for a battery cuz someone needs to knock that chip off your shoulder.

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Kollos
Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:07 pm
#77

You're both pitiful. Take it to PMs.



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Barfalomue
Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:16 pm
#78

It was not my intention to say you had alternative motives behind helping people. My point was you stand here telling us all about it as if you are trying to sit on your high horse saying you are all-mighty because you helped a few people.


As far as the test center notes, I was referring to the fact that they stated that the way the storage modules are made would be changed. And, as I said in my posts...the minute I see something that has any chance of effecting me, I cover myself. If you have been on these forums, you MUST know not to take the moderator's notes and posts 100%. They are about 50-60% of the whole truth.


Like now...they say there is going to be a droid baterry meter. Well, that has the possibility of changing the way a droid baterry works and/or changing how one is made. I used that fact and have made a baterry schematic. Conductivity seems to be the only factor at the moment. They may change it to Cond/OQ...and the OQ on most of the copper I have is horrid.


My whole point of all the posts I have put here is to just tell you to "hope for the best and prepare for the worst." That way you are never disappointed.


I am done insulting you...I apologize if I have offended you...just some things get under my skin and when people say they are going to shortchange others because of one person, that is one thing that gets under my skin.



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