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Thread: Droids Rebuilt and why we won't carry them
Once more for the slow ones...it's just the novelty. The survey droids are WASTING YOU MONEY not saving. I am Ranger 0/0/4/0 & am faster & get MORE HIDES on my own just using a pet to KILL faster than you do puttering w/ a harvesting droid. Harvesting droids pnly help you if you're painfully slow. PERIOD. Just the way it is. MOUNTS sold for vast sums & were in ridiculous demand...for a week or two. Same here. You can be the one-star maggot all you want, but face it, facts are seldom POPULAR. One starring is a sign of hiding from reality. Your time would be better spent demanding better droids.
Are the new droids a huge improvement? DUH. ANYthing would be. Your profession sucked so hard for so long, that now that there is even a shred of use for you, you think it's FANTASTIC. Honeymoon ends in about a week. At this point, a "kicks player in crotch" droid would be greeted by the DE community with open arms. And players buy ANY new crap, no matter how much garbage it is, say how it's the BEST THING EVER & they LOVE it. EVERY TIME. Temporarily. Sell 'em while dummies are still suckers. Me, I've already done it by hand, faster, for free.
Ever since Publish 8, my vendor has been doing something it hadn't done often.
Sell droids.
People are buying my BlastBot 550s (3168 HAM, 549 combat rating, 181-191 damage) in pairs. I sell them for the same 50k price I did publish 7. They're the same deeds, same schematic as P7.
Whenever I put a MaxEffect R3 (all six modules) on my vendor, it's usually gone pretty soon, within a day.
My two HarvestMax R3s (107 harvest bonus) haven't sold yet, but I think they will. The new modules don't require that much in the way of new resources, so I sell six module R3s for my regular price of 40k.
I've sold a few of my MedMaxSD R3s with three stim dispensors, med6/item6/food station, and no one has come back and complained. Ever, for any of my droids.
I may not have made millions yet from P8, but I've had more business lately than I'm used to, and am considering getting a fourth factory.
Oh, and there is only one level of auto-repair module. There is no level 3.
TheRealTK421 wrote:
Jenden,
Stop trying to explain. Some people won't get it no matter how hard you try.
/bow
Respectfully,
I suspect that it has less to do with "getting it" than with the "appearing to be smarter than the masses" syndrome, by attempting to "debunk a popular thing or idea" or in this case, an in-game craze. In many circumstances where there is a wave of popularity for something, there are those who wish to go against the grain, simply for the sake of propping up their sense of originality and supposed superiority. That's not to say that they don't believe what they are saying, or that they're necessarily wrong, but they are less likely to question their own premises, and less likely to admit to it when clearly shown to be mistaken (look up "cognitive dissonance").
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TK Wrote:
Then they aren't being properly educated or are simply not going to every be able to take advantage of the value that's been added here.
I respect your right to have your opinion of the additions. I just happen to believe (and know) that you're wrong. Perhaps you need to reevaluate your perspective on what's been added here. To the last, every droid I've sold of the type you've mentioned has been very highly welcomed and seriously lauded by my clients.
I think it all comes from properly educating your clientbase about where the true value in these products lay.
Wow! this might be my first time to disagree with the DE community at large. But I think after the novelty wears off, people will find that there's really not much value to most of these.
After a week or so, the entertainers will find it's just to much bother to call out the entertainer droids, especially since they insist on standing directly in the way of the entertainer they're serving.
Resource harvesters might find this is fun the first few times - again, until the novelty wears off. But let's face it; all the serious harvesters have better systems already in place to track resource shifts. If these were cheap (nope) easy to use (nope) and could be used without ALSO having to manage a backstock of survey tool crates (nope) then maybe, but I won't be back for a repeat order.
Barker droids?! Are we kidding? I'm a master merchant and I HAVE Ad IV, but how is my droid going to compete with all the AFK macro-spammers at the starport, even if I didn't already have better ways to advertise than starport spamming. Don't keep these is stock for me.
Some of these might be useful in the long term, if they worked on their own, or with a hot key. But by the time I've selected the droid, and waited for the radial menu, and selected the proper option, I usually could have just done the job myself. I may be the only one, but I have to largely agree with the original poster.
Faellyn wrote:
After a week or so, the entertainers will find it's just to much bother to call out the entertainer droids, especially since they insist on standing directly in the way of the entertainer they're serving.
If an entertainer can't figure out the command, "STAY" and then walk 2 meters away, I doubt they could figure out how to read my directions or use the planetary map to find my store. I tend to sell these to people who are capable, not handi-capable.
Faellyn wrote:
Resource harvesters might find this is fun the first few times - again, until the novelty wears off. But let's face it; all the serious harvesters have better systems already in place to track resource shifts. If these were cheap (nope) easy to use (nope) and could be used without ALSO having to manage a backstock of survey tool crates (nope) then maybe, but I won't be back for a repeat order.
"Manage a backstock of survey tool crates". Um. what? That's what, FOUR crates? The intended market for this droid is resource specialists, you know, the guys with 100 plus static harvesters, or the elite crafter in harvest & hoarde mode, where shifts on remote planets is critical. These people have no problem "managing" four crates of tools. If they do, they obviously aren't capable of much. (let's not talk 'ease of use'. If you find a survey droid 'difficult to use', I suggest switching to Counter Strike. Less reading involved, yo)
Faellyn said:
Barker droids?! Are we kidding? I'm a master merchant and I HAVE Ad IV, but how is my droid going to compete with all the AFK macro-spammers at the starport, even if I didn't already have better ways to advertise than starport spamming. Don't keep these is stock for me.
Okay. I won't. ![]()
I have a barker droid for hunts to announce to my PA our start waypoint. Works great. I ALSO use it for advertising, as I place it away from the shouting idiots that I never buy anything from, since, well, they're idiots.
My customers appreciate that the droid isn't spamming them, and since they approach it for curiosity (it's a black protocol with red eyes) my message is simple and to the point: "I sell droids, like this one. Use my radial and I'll send you a waypoint to my shop"
I got 40k in tips just because this droid is so much nicer than having some retarded mouthbreathing idiot scream "RESOUSRES CHEEP OMG OMG!! LOL LOL AT MY VENDER!" every 10 seconds.
Faellyn wrote:
Some of these might be useful in the long term, if they worked on their own, or with a hot key. But by the time I've selected the droid, and waited for the radial menu, and selected the proper option, I usually could have just done the job myself. I may be the only one, but I have to largely agree with the original poster.
If you are using the radial only instead of PROGRAMMING A COMMAND for most of these modules, then yeah, you should agree with the original poster,( who, by the way, has NOT even read THE RELEASE NOTES and is LYING about the modules) since you have not been educated on how to use these by a competent DE. You've been horribly misinformed, and if you took any of the original poster's rants as truth in any way, I'm sure that you are confused as heck by now by the responses. See, the original poster had no idea how ANY of these modules worked, nor any real idea of the requirements or how they actually behave in a completed, well experimented droid.
Get with a good DE on your server and ask questions - Or read the focus threads. I really believe that you're being misled by either the utter incompetent who started this thread, or his equivalent numbskull on your server.
Barfalomue wrote:
That is when I send them a friendly /tell just saying Hello, thank you for visiting my shop. I also do Custom Droid Orders if you are unable to find anything of interest. This gets me a sale 8 out of 10 times. Usually they leave because a particular combination of modules was not on my vendor, therefore thought it was impossible.
I am as specific as possible in my droid decriptions in my vendor, listing both the positives and negatives of each droid module I sell. I do the same thing when I get tells asking about specific module functions.
This way, none of my customers comes back and says I thought it could do X or Y, but it cant. And with the new modules with publish 8, there are alot of positives and negatives to each of the new modules.
But guess what, even after knowing all the facts, people are still buying droids at 10 times the rate as before. Its not the novelty. They see what if any advantage a droid can give them, and buy or dont buy them. When I an crafting in my shop, I see alot of people walk in, stare at the vendor for a few minutes, then leave, never buying a thing.
And since I always try to have at least 2 of every varient of droid I sell on the vendor, I have to assume that person made the decision that there were no droids that would help him right now.
But there are plenty of others out there that do see that a droid would be an asset to them, for whatever reason, and buy one. Not just for the novelty of it.
That is when I send them a friendly /tell just saying Hello, thank you for visiting my shop. I also do Custom Droid Orders if you are unable to find anything of interest. This gets me a sale 8 out of 10 times. Usually they leave because a particular combination of modules was not on my vendor, therefore thought it was impossible.
Sunfire1 wrote:
When I an crafting in my shop, I see alot of people walk in, stare at the vendor for a few minutes, then leave, never buying a thing.
And since I always try to have at least 2 of every varient of droid I sell on the vendor, I have to assume that person made the decision that there were no droids that would help him right now.