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Thread: Someone told me i was the highest priced DE on my server today!

Katosan
Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:44 pm
#27

Don't cut your prices.... bleh



I sell what I sell based not on the chassis, but by what and how many modules I put into it. And each of those I base on the cost of the components.



If stuff is moving off your shelves, it's priced too low, if it sits there, it's too high... you want your things priced so that they sell at a comfortable rate that allows you to play and still stock the shelves.



Just an ol' retailer giving some advice.... and don't worry about your competition, they can only keep up the low prices so long.






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Straker_Atrella
Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:41 pm
#28

Something to consider.


Lets say you are priced4 timeshigher then another DE. He sells something for 5k, you sell it for 20k. Due to his undercutting, he sells 4 times as much you do. Yet for every sale that you make, he needs to make 4.


This means that he needs to work 4 times as hard, and use 4 times as many resources in order to make the same amount of profit as you. In the end, he "may" end up raising his prices.


If you drop your prices to compete, you just show them that their prices are correct, keep your prices fair.



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Negho
Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:42 pm
#29


Straker_Atrella wrote:
The main problem is that people don't realize how much money combatents have out there. They are more then willing to part with it.





I think that is a huge factor.

When I started playing my DE/weaponsmith, I had played one character previously, a master marksman who was level 18.

As a crafter starting out it is really hard, I remember being excited when someone bought a pair of boots I hade made off the vendor for 500 credits

Now I've gone back to that marksman and he has become a BH/carbineer. I now make 18k per mark, and it doesn't take me long to rack up a few hundred thousand credits. I have also gotten pretty good at spending them

Now that I have seen the kind of cash that even a newish BH makes (I was taking down 16k marks at like level 25), I have really adjusted my thoughts on pricing for BH droids and weapons in general. As a level 18 player I hooked up with a good grind group and made 30k in about three hours. Leaving aside the very low levels, combat classes make a lot of money.



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Obo_alCan
Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:10 pm
#30

Getting back into stocking my vendors again after a bit of a break. After putting up 60 droids, I went the bazaar to check out the prices and saw the two extremes.
An R3 with Lvl 6 data listed at 5,500 (in with a lot of other droids for just a few k), and a 120 Harvest droid for... one million!





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DTQ
Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:23 am
#31






Negho wrote:




Straker_Atrella wrote:

The main problem is that people don't realize how much money combatents have out there. They are more then willing to part with it.







I think that is a huge factor.

When I started playing my DE/weaponsmith, I had played one character previously, a master marksman who was level 18.

As a crafter starting out it is really hard, I remember being excited when someone bought a pair of boots I hade made off the vendor for 500 credits

Now I've gone back to that marksman and he has become a BH/carbineer. I now make 18k per mark, and it doesn't take me long to rack up a few hundred thousand credits. I have also gotten pretty good at spending them

Now that I have seen the kind of cash that even a newish BH makes (I was taking down 16k marks at like level 25), I have really adjusted my thoughts on pricing for BH droids and weapons in general. As a level 18 player I hooked up with a good grind group and made 30k in about three hours. Leaving aside the very low levels, combat classes make a lot of money.





OK im a MBH as my combat toon, the money I make is straight up messed up. I made 30 mil last week I spent about 3 of those days doing content missions rather than looting. I spent 100k on droids, Ive given a DE on that server an order for 2 probots, which I wanted hand made with all the very best stuff they could get their hands on for 350k each and was happy to pay it if my factory crates of seekers and arakys were costing 300k a time thats what I would pay - no questions asked, with loot like it is at the moment a MBH would pay 1 mil a crate of 25 if he had to. And still be making good money after paying for his armour \ weapons.


A MBH power gaming his loot, can honestly sit back and think to himself, am I going to buy a NS bicep with this weeks income or am I going to buy a jet pack.


When it comes to Droid use on missions I wouls say 6 times out of 10 I use only one arakyd on a mission. your target gives you a fair amount of time before it starts moving. Operating out of kadaraa with a barc and a fast loading computer you get to your targets original wp before they've moved.


I appreciate low investigation BH cant afford the higher prices a MBH would pay. And Jedi missions use far more droids than NPC loot missions.


A DE selling factory crates of droids to MBH at cut throat prices is doing themselves out of money.


Atop end custom ordered droid for a combatant should start at 300k


As a DE myself we have a problem theres limited demand for our fun products and the products in high demand are being sold a cut throat prices to some of the wealthiest players in the game.


consider this for profit \ effort I can make myself a modern sofa using 200 units (or thereabouts) of 1 cpu resources cost around 200 (maybe 300c) what ever it is its not enough for me to worry about. I can use junk resources and sell this item for 10k -15k a time it requires no thought and two clicks of the mouse to make the item. I make 4 of these In a few seconds, and hawk them on the bazaa to all and sundry rich and poor for decoration only, for the same amount of credits a DE sells a factory crate of droids, to one of the richest classes in the game, and they are essential to his money making.


We have created our own unbalance if every DE charged 1 mil a crate sales would not drop off. but thats not going to happen because everyone feels the need to compete.


My BH lost 1 mil bank tipping to typo , I smiled laughed and tipped the right name, tomy DE character thats a BIG loss.



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ShrubbyPegasus
Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:59 am
#32

The most annoying customer I ever had in my shop mentioned so called overpricing on some particular items on my loots vendor due to his prior vendor-search price check cheapest listings. /shrug x5


Sometimes i feel like dropping custom orders too when they send out tell bombardment when I try make a moment of peace to make the order. Exitement is ok - understandable - I'm making them nice orders. Then it would be nice if ppl in general would know elite craftershave to bemore skilled to what they do than the pvp'ers. Simply because crafters are meeting what the combat classes want - thereby already knowing that skilled BH jedi hunters require 8k energy armor sliced 75% armor break from smuggler (a little off topic to DE) No flames - making point.



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Nouveau
Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:24 pm
#33


I don't want to state the obvious here, but there is such a thing as communication. Wow, we're doing that right now! Here's the situation on Shadowfire, all the prominent DE's talk to each other and make sure we're not doing boneheaded pricing. If we're all on the same page, we all maximize our profit potential (ewww, corporate-speak)and everybody wins. I'm sure that the environment on higher pop servers like Bria and Ahazi makes for a more cut-throat atmosphere, but I'm sure that there can be some common ground for the good of all DE's no matter the server. All it takes is someone willing to talk to everyone, "get the feel of the room", and propose apricing structurethat is acceptable to all parties from grizzled veteran to the most green of noob DE's.


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Straker_Atrella
Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:09 pm
#34

I agree communication is great, some people simply want to do their own thing though. For a long time we had a DE who sold his products at 2 cpu, no matter what they were.



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HesDeadJim
Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:51 am
#35

When the stickies say Droid Engineers are their own worst enemies, they're right. Very, sadly, right.
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