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Lamgwin

Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:30 am

RasalTheWise wrote:
Ok, so...back on topic then: Care to add to this thread other than telling me "I'm dreaming" and that you resent me? Can you think of any reasons to make the general public want a combat droid? No? Then there's no reason for you to post here other than further your criticism of me.

If the "dreaming" comment is what set you off then this place is worse off than I thought. In case that's not clear, that's ridiculous.

There is NO way to make the general public want a combat droid while there is an XP nerf from the combat droid. That's pretty simple, it's a valid point of view, and it's backed up by available evidence. The fact that you don't like this opinion does not make it a criticism of you and does not make it flame baiting.

There's no way to make the general public want a combat droid while there is an XP nerf from using it. It's quite simple and I'm sure you'll find this to be true if you ask about it on the general discussion boards. I did that very thing, and they were both unaware of the nerf, and considered it a reason not to use the combat droid. I rest my case.

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ZarienYage

Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:42 am

#28

I dont know about you guys but I CANNOT keep enough combat/med droids on my vendors. They sell that fast. And thats no exageration what so ever. I have even raised my prices abit and they still fly off the shelves.

If your a bounty hunter and your not using a combat/med droid your just gimping yourself and making your life harder. They help a ton! Speaking as a DE and with a character thats a BH the amount that the med mod's increase your healing is awesome and having that distraction that alot of jedi's go after is great to have. If you have auto repair/combat/med and some droid repair kits your all set.

Obviously people on bria realize this because they are buying and using them. I have seen a big spike in people using these droids. And actually harvester droids have been selling nicely also. So I guess it just depends on your server.

Granted I agree we need a huge revamp since DE still does need alot of work but maybe on some servers people just havnt found out how much help these droids actually are.

Zalypsis

Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:10 pm

#29

GoldMemberBria wrote:

I'm an mbh and I own 3 "combat droids" that I like, but I have to admit that they have not been of much use in bounty missions. What I found is that if I attack my mark with anything except a probot, it will be instantly destroyed, even if I attack before my droid does. If I use a probot, it will hang back with me, and it survives about 75% of the missions. The problem though is that it really isn't much help. It attacks frequently, but in looking at the combat log, it nearly always misses. And of course when it hits, the damage is around 20-30 or so, which would add up over time, but not when it misses nearly every shot. I haven't bother to quantify exactly what the hit percentage is, but it is LOW, so the dps is minimal.

I'm just curious, was the probot grouped with you on your missions? For they are much more effective when grouped (the whole everyone's CL is changed to highest group member's). If it wasn't, that would explain its terrible damage output and accuracy vs. a lvl 80ish (NPC Mission Mark). It should be doing at least 100 dmg per tick, as well as getting a good hit rate.

Also, these other driods that were "instantly destroyed": did they have the armor modules to increase their health to the maximum (Probot's is 3742ish)? If not, they obviously would die rather quickly, as would even a probot without the proper armor modules that give it its HP.

Edit: Mispelled destroyed O.o

Message Edited by Zalypsis on 09-21-2005 09:11 PM

Straker_Atrella

Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:13 pm

#30

I would be interested is seeing "this proof" that people don't want to buy combat droids.

I sell plenty of them, have a problem keeping them in stock at times. People done leveling buy them for extra muscle, crafters buy them for protection, and even people leveling buy them just "in case" they need them. If your droid is standing behind you doing nothing, he doesn't take any xp. You choose when to tell him to attack, you do this only when you need the help.

I tell people about the XP loss, nobody cares.

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arkadyfolkner

Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:30 am

#31

I am only cl14, and love my Combat Droid, it gives me an extra set of fire power, target aggro, and the ability to effective take on targets that would otherwise be a no-go as my droid is CL30. Yes im getting an exp hit for it, but the tradeoff to my survivability is worth that, and my kill rate is much faster than normal.

Frost1977

Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:57 am

#32

Combat droids need to have more pop and better armor. I remember when u could put medium armor with 20% resistance across the boards. (though that was Pre-cu armor stats)

a combat droid should be something to be reckoned with.

Skurr

Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:11 am

#33

Lol, anyone remember WAAYYYYYYYY back when, when Probots where the **it. Untill CH's cried and they got nerfed

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WCjtace

Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:03 pm

#34

Hmm I got a partially finished DE character on Corbantis back from pre-pub9, I eventually switched to chili after about a month just because there was soooo little a DE was usefull for back then even. I've been checking around and I"m not sure much has even changed after so long even.

I wonder if those ub3r pre nerf probots still exist... lol

Sandsifter

Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:11 pm

#35

I hesitate to make droids with too many options in them. However I've recently started selling probots with auto-repair AND med 110 bonus to them (normally I only add auto-repair to combat droids). I priced them like they were some sorta krayt enhanced top of the line item and they sell like hotcakes.

+68 auto-repair, med 110, 2 lvl 6 armor modules, combat rated for 250k. I sold 40+ of them in 3 days. So the market is definitely there for combat droids.

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sheldie

Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:18 am

#36

I'm only a Novice DE, but my guild mate continually ask me if I can make combat droids.

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Idahe

Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:08 am

#37

Sandsifter wrote:

I hesitate to make droids with too many options in them.

Why is this? It seems that many Droid Engineers follow this same philosophy. I did a vendor search of my galaxy and found many single-use droids, even advanced chassis with only one function. There were even some droids for sale that had no modules built in (these were likely the product of a grinding DE selling some of their experiments...)

I believe that this sort of marketing diminishes the demand for all droids, not just combat units. If customers see a droids as limited tools, with only one function, then people will figure they can do without. If your potential customers instead realize that a single droid can fulfill a variety of functions, they will be more likely to make that all-important first purchase. Once they have a droid, then they will begin asking 'What else can a droid do?' or 'I wish I had more storage space in this droid.' Then you can sell the specialized harvesting or storage models. Several times while making custom orders the customer has expressed surprise over the variety of functions that can bebuilt into a single droid.

Instead of trying to get repeat business by limiting the usefulness of individual droids, in the hope of selling multiple units each with a different function; I sell multi-function units, then get repeat business for minor droids, or for upgrades (they decide they need different configuration of modules).

And of course I always build in CL30 (1 lvl 6 armor) its always better to have higher HAM (or so it appears to the customer).

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