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Thread: Publish 8 (Droids Rebuilt) Test Center Reports, comments, opinions and discussion

DiLune
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:17 pm
#248

you do what yeraze said and you use the Edit As HTML button before you submit post (do not preview.)


Back on target, anyone using a fully loaded harv droid? I've heard you need to stack a bunch of harv modules on it to get the full effect.


OrionsByte
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:21 pm
#249






Jenden wrote:





OrionsByte wrote:

Just thought of something, and I don't want to "stir the pot" but,


Are we still getting a power meter for the droid's batteries? If not in this publish, will we still be getting it soon? I didn't see it in the patch notes...








yes, when you examine your droid it says power: x% or something similar to that.





Oh sweet, thanks!



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OrionsByte
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:25 pm
#250




DiLune wrote:

you do what yeraze said and you use the Edit As HTML button before you submit post (do not preview.)


Back on target, anyone using a fully loaded harv droid? I've heard you need to stack a bunch of harv modules on it to get the full effect.








Right. Compose your entire post, switch to HTML, and go in and put the tags around your link. Works fine.



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neshura
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:55 pm
#251

This...

is....

AWESOME.

A thousand thank-you's to TH, TK, and the dev team. You guys went above and beyond in getting these put together. I am overjoyed, delighted, excited, reinvigorated. I can't tell you how much my customers are going to *love* this kind of selection.

I don't have a TC char, but thanks also to everyone who is doing the extensive module testing.

aWOOOOga!
Naufragus
Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:09 pm
#252






AudioOrgana wrote:





Jenden wrote:

My suggestion, if you don't want to survey anymore, don't.I DONT>>>I HAVE ALL STATIC HARVETSORS NOW AND I JUSTMINE WAHT EVER SPAWNS UNDER THEM!!!!!There are plenty of people selling resources out there. The only time I do any of my own harvesting is when I've got a specific resource that I know just spawned and no one else is harvesting it, and even then I've only got one harvester to throw up on it. Surveying/harvesting is a choice, not a necessity.







Hehe, exactly.


I mean, I'm sorry, but resources are not supposed to be free - since the cost of harvesters/etc. is negligible the time commitment is the only gate.


Saying you "are tired of moving harvesters every week" is like saying, "I don't want to bother getting through the Genosian Cave, I just want to get the loot by sending a droid in to get it for me".


If you don't want to survey, don't - as Jenden says. If you can't afford to not mine your own stuff, you aren't charging enough for whatever you are using the resources to make.


If gathering resources were even easier than it is now - in your version, there is zero effort put forth - the flooded resource market would only continue to be flooded and the economy flushed down the toilet even further.


Again, if you use a survey macro and a vehicle you should never take more than 30 minutes to find the best spot on a planet - since you can drive from one end to the other in that time.


AO






you guys obviuosly arent archtiects and havent gone 6000km following a vein only to have it max out at 36%...then find another vein and follow it for 4000k only to have end at 29%...it isnt like you do a scan and follow the 79% vein of metal to the 86% vein 500k away...


it wouldnt be so bad if they let use survey from a vehicle...then it wouldnt be stop scan stop scan stop scan

Jenden
Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:26 pm
#253

one more minor thing I noticed, not only do stats (non-combat that is) show up in the deed, but you can now see crafting stations installed in the datapad as well.



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AudioOrgana
Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:27 pm
#254






Naufragus wrote:


it wouldnt be so bad if they let use survey from a vehicle...then it wouldnt be stop scan stop scan stop scan







Lol it's almost that easy. And what does being an architect have to do with spawning? In any case -


Make the following macro :


/dismount;

/survey;

/pause 1;

/mount


Use your survey tool to select the resource. Close it. Target your vehicle. You are good to go.


You don't have to stop every 150m, just get the general direction.


I mean, it's so fast at this point it's already too easy. Yes, occasionally one will be tough, but if you aren't finding anything, jump a shuttle and try someplace else. You yourself said you aren't always looking for the "best" spot, just a good enough one.


Seriously - think about this. You are just about asking the game to play itself for you, as somone pointed out above.


Again, it's like asking for a droid that goes into the Genosian caves to get the loot for you while you sit in your house on Naboo. It's just silly.


AO
zeeraz
Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:03 am
#255

Actually Audia I know several rangers & scouts that use their traps often, and are already putting in pre-orders with me for a scounting droid so that they don't need to fill up their pack space with traps.
Obo_alCan
Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:05 am
#256






Pallida wrote:





nefarious wrote:




But I can see if there is a resource shift now with out traveling to another planet, and I can tell you what the stats are on the resources, the only thing I have to do is spend a few hours running around the planet finding a WP. What would be the benifit of having the droid if it is a one shot deal.





Out of idle curiosity, how can you tell if there has been a named/rare resource shift on a planet you're not already standing on?


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It might have been a bit too much to ask at this point to have two survey droids similar to the BH droids. One to see what resources are on another planetand another to find waypoints on the planet you are on. Maybe in the future.






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AudioOrgana
Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:06 am
#257






Naufragus wrote:





AudioOrgana wrote:


- and it would make real vendors less attractive.







the droid would be a "real" vendor....


speaking as a merchant i dont care WHERE or HOW people buy my goods...just that they BUY them....the merchants who frequent these boards are really too fixated on the vendors...really the vendors are just vanity items....most people could get along with the ugly Biz 3 vending machine.....


I would much rather have a droid GO TO MY CUSTOMERS rather than SPAMMING and trying to drive customers to my location...


The spambot is a TERRIBLE idea....we should be finding ways to reduce the spam, not making it some skill....









I definately see where you are going with the vendor thing, but the fact is they want to lure people away from major cities. And vendors aren't meant to be vanity items - these droids are. Vendors are meant to be the backbone of the economy.


I understand the aversion to spamming, but I think you are looking at the symptom as the problem, and not the problem itself.


The problem is that there is little advertising available, and in a game where the economy is entirely player based that is a severe limitation. We have all these pretty shops but no one knows about them. Vendor listings on the planetary map aren't enough.


The point is to get the people to the vendors, not bring the vendors to the people.


I assume there will be a way to ignore these droids if you so choose (if not, it will be soon, I'm sure because of the nerf cries already beginning), but I don't see the harm in having them, only the benefit.


You aren't going to "stop" spamming. Long term, there needs to be true global advertising in game, but like it or not spatial messages at Starports are the way business is going to be done for the forseeable future. There is no way with storage exploits and other issues that they are ever going to implement vendor mechanisms on droids that aren't severely limited - and if you can only get, say, 10 items on a droid at once, you might as well just stand there and sell them by hand.


I understand your frustration on the issue - I have days where I type /addignore when I can't stand it either - but for right now it is the best way to get people aware of something being available. I'd love for them to bring back vendor listings on the bazaar, but it doesn't seem like that is going to happen.


Since it's a merchant skill, it's really not going to change the spamming habits of "100K ore gotta sell now PST" people, but it will simply be an elegant way for a merchant to advertise their wares.


Spamming is ugly, but until people get a real, viable alternative it is going to be a fact of life, as it is in any MMO.


AO

AudioOrgana
Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:12 am
#258






nefarious wrote:




But I can see if there is a resource shift now with out traveling to another planet, and I can tell you what the stats are on the resources, the only thing I have to do is spend a few hours running around the planet finding a WP. What would be the benifit of having the droid if it is a one shot deal.


I could see that they don't want a novice artisan with no survey being able to survey an entire planet, so if they survey droid had a cert in survey 4 this would still mean people would have to pick and chose their points, but it would make it a lot easier for those of us who don't have much time in game to spend on surveying for one resouce, when we need 3 different ones.


I saw the survey droid and thought my game got a little better, but if all they do is tell you what is on what planet, I won't be buying one, as I have the same abilities now without them.







Well, then it doesn't suit your needs. I presume you are refering to using SWGCraft to get the same data, but I like this method more because 1) it's in game and doesn't require me to go out and 2) it's current - SWGcraft isn't perfect nor always updated. And resource shifts no longer shift all over the galaxy at once - many times there are "mini-shifts" and I will be using these droids at least once a day to save myself the hassle of checking my harvesters.


This droid wasn't meant to survey for you - that is an essential gameplay mechanic. If a droid instantly gave you the highest waypoint on a planet, there is no gate - every single person would be there immediately, and there would be no effort to harvesting. It's already too easy in many ways.


Personally, it's going to save me trips to a distant planet to check on things, I don't have to go to a dang website to play the game (which is another reason I like the directon of merchant modules, because I hate the Galaxy Trade Forums), and I can get current data. I'll definately keep a crate around.


AO
Pallida
Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:14 am
#259






Obo_alCan wrote:





Pallida wrote:





nefarious wrote:




But I can see if there is a resource shift now with out traveling to another planet, and I can tell you what the stats are on the resources, the only thing I have to do is spend a few hours running around the planet finding a WP. What would be the benifit of having the droid if it is a one shot deal.





Out of idle curiosity, how can you tell if there has been a named/rare resource shift on a planet you're not already standing on?


sssssssssssssSSS(:-<









www.swgcraft.com


It might have been a bit too much to ask at this point to have two survey droids similar to the BH droids. One to see what resources are on another planetand another to find waypoints on the planet you are on. Maybe in the future.







umm... aren't you presuming that thisweb site's datais up-to-date and accurate? The last time I checked, swgcraft.com was player fed... and not always accurate.


So, I ask again... how canyou tell.. from in-game... that a resource shift has occured on a remote planet?


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TheRealTK421
Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:18 am
#260






Pallida wrote:


So, I ask again... how canyou tell.. from in-game... that a resource shift has occured on a remote planet?





Us Ahazi folk (and others on the servers that have them) can usually count on the DENet members stepping up to provide this information.






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