Droid Engineer Archive

---

Pluto9Moon wrote:

I have one for you GnomeAd and I believe it is a very legitimate and valid argument since DE is a pure crafter class. Recently TH answered a question about AFK macroing in Cantinas and how it devalues the classes of Entertainer types seeking fun in the game. What follows is his answer and defense of AFK macroing....(the questions is in green his reply in red).

7. Do you feel that it is acceptable that the role of entertainers is being completely filled by people impersonating NPCs, leaving those who play the class with nothing to do? Do you plan to do anything about this, such as an auto-logout or making healing a more active process?

We understand the nature of this issue. In essence, we can’t prevent AFK people from playing, but one thing we are doing is looking at different ways we can encourage at-the-keyboard play.
(And I know this will come up again, so here is why we can’t prevent people from AFK. Given that this is an online game, there are people out there who are very smart and will learn how to play AFK no matter what we do. It is just the nature of the beast. So instead of keep it so that only high-end computer savvy people can AFK, we make it fair so everyone can do it instead of just an elite few.)

He intimates that because some people will use third party button pushers that all people should have a method around third party button pushers in order to keep it competitive. What he is actually saying is that this can remain fair for combat classes, dancers and healers (except healer crafting). True crafters do not currently have a method in game to place resources in a schematic without third party materials. So by his own definition of availability to everyone as a means to stay fair and balanced, should they not make a way for all crafters to be AFK and grinding through crafting OR just say "hey everyone can use winscheduler because some people will use it". It seems to me that this is just a smoke screen for one profession and it is gonna be true Blunderhead Mantra to give crafters a different answer.

---

Not to get serious in this thread, but I think you are slightly misunderstanding his point. What he is saying is that no matter what system they put in place to stop AFK playing, people will find a way around it. It's a lesson they finally learned after the great "AFK Surveying" nerf. In case you don't know, AFK sampling is still alive and well and actually works better now than it did before. In short, they've run up the white flag and have given up using code changes to stop this. The bright side is that they are promising to make things like entertainers more fun to play as a way to discourage this type of behavior. He isn't referring to external tools, he's talking about creative ways to use the internal macroing system.

Now, back to the laughs.....

I say nerf the R-2. That thing has way too much HAM!

Wow! I can edit!!!!!!!!

Message Edited by GnomeAd on 02-03-2004 09:05 AM

---

N0RAX wrote:

Info from TH = discussion and arguements on DE forum

-norax

---

"Info from TH" is a paradox. We've never gotten anything concrete out of the guy, or any of the devs for that matter. He comes in here withquestions, absolute lies about what DE's want, and checkers analogies.

Bleh.

I can edit now too!

Message Edited by duncje on 02-03-2004 08:35 AM

---

duncje wrote:

---

N0RAX wrote:

Info from TH = discussion and arguements on DE forum

-norax

---

"Info from TH" is a paradox. We've never gotten anything concrete out of the guy, or any of the devs for that matter. He comes in here with questions, absolute lies about what DE's want, and checkers analogies.

Bleh.

I can edit now too!

Message Edited by duncje on 02-03-2004 08:35 AM

---

---

GnomeAd wrote:

He isn't referring to external tools, he's talking about creative ways to use the internal macroing system.

---

..... I said I'm not allowed to argue with you until you've paid

*turns away*

No you haven't.

I could be argueing in my spare time.

---

CapnSteve wrote:
Sorry to post on topic, but that's an interesting theory about naming. I wonder...

---

---

GnomeAd wrote:

---

Daker-Naritus wrote:

I think I would rather argue about day vs. night again...

My personal thought is that day rocks, while night is unbalancing and needs to be nerfed.

---

Nope, the day is waaaay too bright. When you add in the fact that sunlight can cause things like plants to grow, I think it's pretty apparent that days need to be nurfed.

---

There's just as many Night Checkers as Day Checkers..so it must be alright and balanced

Thunderheart said so..so it must be Gospel Truth..mustn't it?