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Thread: Can't IGNORE Spam Droids?? You've GOT to be kidding!!!!!
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darthfodder
Mon May 24, 2004 7:33 am
#14
You JUST lost your ID services in Moenia and I'm starting to /addignore anyone using Spam Droids.
boohoo...
Nexxus82
Mon May 24, 2004 5:28 pm
#15
I agree they can be quite annoying when they are being miss used by people who put the in places they shouldn't be. I can see at Starports and stuff but they can get really annoting.
_KernMist
Tue May 25, 2004 1:12 am
#16
I use my droid in a way that doesn't spam people and advertises droids at the same time.
If i'm on my travels and someone asks me what I can make and where my store is I just be friendly and polite and say...
"My droid can give you the details..."
And he does. 
Tirgwystraff
Tue May 25, 2004 4:02 am
#17
You DO realize, that if you /ignore the person who owns the droid, you no longer hear the droid spam? Examine the droid to find the owner.
Isquan
Tue May 25, 2004 4:45 am
#19
glory wrote:
I TOTALLY AGREE..IF WE BUILD THE STUPID SPAM DROIDS we are part of the problem....so I do NOT build them. They are exactly the problem I predicted them to be and did SOE listen.. no. DO they ever listen NOPE.
AND top that off with IDers having to go to the now even MORE spam ridden cities to use the tents and you have SOE not listening to my suggestion of a player city tent too. When will they ever learn?
WHAT problem!? I rarley see a "spam bot" in action, %99 of advertisers are still using /yell's... fact is they are not functional enough to be a problem! THATS the problem.
Your getting upset over a storm in a teacup.
FlawedDiamond
Tue May 25, 2004 8:18 am
#20
No dear. Im not getting Upset over it. Its not Worth getting upset over. Its merely irritating and kind of sad.
But All of you that say "Oh its not that bad." Think about that a minute. The Spammers force YOU and everyone else to talk in /tells. You cant have a public conversation? In a game where Social Contact is really 90% of why we play? You dont see a problem with that? If all you want it a game where you shoot things and blow things up WHy woulds you bother with SWG when there are so many excellant FPS games on the market? The ONLy reason to play SWG over those is that there are real people on the other end of the chars you meet.
In the early days of the game the cantinas were usually crowded because thats where people wen to meet others, make new friends, socialize, in other words; to Interact with others. To make a comment and see if it drew a response, to answer a question someone asked and join IN a conversation, to see a group of people talking and decide they seemed like interesting peopel and to walk over and introduce yourself to them. Try that in one of the Spam Zombie pits that the cantinas have become. Try that around a port when you see some peopel talking.... OOPS! Forgot. You CAN'T. Because as you said, people are forced to talk in Tells and group chat now. Its as if the devs decided that "Okay. Everyones had a chance to meet people and make friends. Dont need any more of that going on."
What's wrong with a Simple Public Bulletin Board system or Classifieds like they used in Ultima for ages? Or a variation of the Bazaar where people could simply POST their advertisements by category?
The current system is SO subject to abuse that its Amazing that someone at SOE hasnt said "OOOPS!" and realized what they've done.
As far as Blaming the Droid Engineers? No I'm not. But if I WERE a Droid Engineer it would be a cold day in hell before I'd Contribute to the problem. When you dont ACT to help stop a problem dear you ARE part of the problem. That's not a hard concept to grasp is it? It wont END the problem, but perhaps it may start getting the message across.
So someone goes boohoo when I say I ignore Spammers and dont provide them with services. Yea true. They dont really care that I personally dont deal with them. But you know what. If more and more people start collecting Spammer names in their ignore list, start NOT patronizing them or providing them with services after a while even the 13 and 14 yr old Spammers will figure out that its not productive. I know several Doctors who collect Spammer names and dont heal or buff anyone on that list. Its beginning. An architect I know just started that yesterday and she no longer will provide services to anyone on her ignore list.
We dont need SOE to come hold our hands and solve all our problems for us. We can solve them outselves. But only if people dont wave their hands in the air and say "Oh there's nothing that I can do!" There IS something you can do. Start Collecting Spammer names. Everyone time you see one spamming ... /addignore and add a line to your bio that say you dont serve or patronize Spammers. It wont take a LOT of us. Just enough to start putting a litle fear in them.
FlawedDiamond
Tue May 25, 2004 8:20 am
#21
No dear. Im not getting Upset over it. Its not Worth getting upset over. Its merely irritating and kind of sad.
But All of you that say "Oh its not that bad." Think about that a minute. The Spammers force YOU and everyone else to talk in /tells. You cant have a public conversation? In a game where Social Contact is really 90% of why we play? You dont see a problem with that? If all you want it a game where you shoot things and blow things up WHy woulds you bother with SWG when there are so many excellant FPS games on the market? The ONLy reason to play SWG over those is that there are real people on the other end of the chars you meet.
In the early days of the game the cantinas were usually crowded because thats where people wen to meet others, make new friends, socialize, in other words; to Interact with others. To make a comment and see if it drew a response, to answer a question someone asked and join IN a conversation, to see a group of people talking and decide they seemed like interesting peopel and to walk over and introduce yourself to them. Try that in one of the Spam Zombie pits that the cantinas have become. Try that around a port when you see some peopel talking.... OOPS! Forgot. You CAN'T. Because as you said, people are forced to talk in Tells and group chat now. Its as if the devs decided that "Okay. Everyones had a chance to meet people and make friends. Dont need any more of that going on."
What's wrong with a Simple Public Bulletin Board system or Classifieds like they used in Ultima for ages? Or a variation of the Bazaar where people could simply POST their advertisements by category?
The current system is SO subject to abuse that its Amazing that someone at SOE hasnt said "OOOPS!" and realized what they've done.
As far as Blaming the Droid Engineers? No I'm not. But if I WERE a Droid Engineer it would be a cold day in hell before I'd Contribute to the problem. When you dont ACT to help stop a problem dear you ARE part of the problem. That's not a hard concept to grasp is it? It wont END the problem, but perhaps it may start getting the message across.
So someone goes boohoo when I say I ignore Spammers and dont provide them with services. Yea true. They dont really care that I personally dont deal with them. But you know what. If more and more people start collecting Spammer names in their ignore list, start NOT patronizing them or providing them with services after a while even the 13 and 14 yr old Spammers will figure out that its not productive. I know several Doctors who collect Spammer names and dont heal or buff anyone on that list. Its beginning. An architect I know just started that yesterday and she no longer will provide services to anyone on her ignore list.
We dont need SOE to come hold our hands and solve all our problems for us. We can solve them outselves. But only if people dont wave their hands in the air and say "Oh there's nothing that I can do!" There IS something you can do. Start Collecting Spammer names. Everyone time you see one spamming ... /addignore and add a line to your bio that say you dont serve or patronize Spammers. It wont take a LOT of us. Just enough to start putting a litle fear in them.
supermatteus
Tue May 25, 2004 9:06 am
#22
Tirgwystraff wrote:
You DO realize, that if you /ignore the person who owns the droid, you no longer hear the droid spam? Examine the droid to find the owner.
Really!?!?
I'll have to test this for myself. If it is true, then FlawedDiamond can take all his one star posts and chill in utter silence with everone in the entire galaxy on his /ignore list.
Tirgwystraff
Tue May 25, 2004 9:45 am
#23
FlawedDiamond wrote:
But All of you that say "Oh its not that bad." Think about that a minute. The Spammers force YOU and everyone else to talk in /tells.
Uhmmm, how many people have ad 4???? I just don't see that many ad droids....
In the early days of the game the cantinas were usually crowded because thats where people wen to meet others, make new friends, socialize, in other words; to Interact with others. To make a comment and see if it drew a response, to answer a question someone asked and join IN a conversation, to see a group of people talking and decide they seemed like interesting peopel and to walk over and introduce yourself to them. Try that in one of the Spam Zombie pits that the cantinas have become. Try that around a port when you see some peopel talking.... OOPS! Forgot. You CAN'T. Because as you said, people are forced to talk in Tells and group chat now. Its as if the devs decided that "Okay. Everyones had a chance to meet people and make friends. Dont need any more of that going on."
So put them on /ignore... that's what it's there for!
What's wrong with a Simple Public Bulletin Board system or Classifieds like they used in Ultima for ages? Or a variation of the Bazaar where people could simply POST their advertisements by category?
The current system is SO subject to abuse that its Amazing that someone at SOE hasnt said "OOOPS!" and realized what they've done.
Uhmmmm what Ultima were you playing????? Even before trammel, we ALWAYS had bank spammers ( I know, I played for 5 years, just watch out for thieves, and bank everything you have before sitting). No one bothered to use the bulletin board system!
As far as Blaming the Droid Engineers? No I'm not. But if I WERE a Droid Engineer it would be a cold day in hell before I'd Contribute to the problem. When you dont ACT to help stop a problem dear you ARE part of the problem. That's not a hard concept to grasp is it? It wont END the problem, but perhaps it may start getting the message across.
Again, can any DE here say they have sold more than 50 ad droids since they came in???
So someone goes boohoo when I say I ignore Spammers and dont provide them with services. Yea true. They dont really care that I personally dont deal with them. But you know what. If more and more people start collecting Spammer names in their ignore list, start NOT patronizing them or providing them with services after a while even the 13 and 14 yr old Spammers will figure out that its not productive.
They would have already if that were the case. However, it isn't! You may not want to hear about the over 1k wookiee clothes I have in stock, but I bet alot of wookiees doIt's a proven fact, sales increase with starport sitting. I haven't done it afk yet, but I'm going to buy a droid today
I know several Doctors who collect Spammer names and dont heal or buff anyone on that list. Its beginning. An architect I know just started that yesterday and she no longer will provide services to anyone on her ignore list.
We dont need SOE to come hold our hands and solve all our problems for us. We can solve them outselves. But only if people dont wave their hands in the air and say "Oh there's nothing that I can do!" There IS something you can do. Start Collecting Spammer names. Everyone time you see one spamming ... /addignore and add a line to your bio that say you dont serve or patronize Spammers. It wont take a LOT of us. Just enough to start putting a litle fear in them.
PS. ingame name is Newmoon, for several servers. You can see how it's spelt, make sure you spell it right as you type /addignore
Isquan
Tue May 25, 2004 9:53 pm
#24
FlawedDiamond wrote:
No dear. Im not getting Upset over it. Its not Worth getting upset over. Its merely irritating and kind of sad.
But All of you that say "Oh its not that bad." Think about that a minute. The Spammers force YOU and everyone else to talk in /tells. You cant have a public conversation? In a game where Social Contact is really 90% of why we play? You dont see a problem with that? If all you want it a game where you shoot things and blow things up WHy woulds you bother with SWG when there are so many excellant FPS games on the market? The ONLy reason to play SWG over those is that there are real people on the other end of the chars you meet.
Wrong... you ARE getting upset over it dear.
You say spammers are forcing you to use tells? well we could turn that around and say YOU are forcing advertisers to not hawk thier wares, or to make them go out in the middle of nowhere.
And you say anyone that doesnt want to be social should go and play another FPS? thats ignorant dribble.. by that logic,I could turn that around and say, If you want to have a conversation... go to one of the many chatrooms on the internet, thats just nonsence.
The difference is, these types of games provide more diversity and realism.
FlawedDiamond wrote:
In the early days of the game the cantinas were usually crowded because thats where people wen to meet others, make new friends, socialize, in other words; to Interact with others. To make a comment and see if it drew a response, to answer a question someone asked and join IN a conversation, to see a group of people talking and decide they seemed like interesting peopel and to walk over and introduce yourself to them. Try that in one of the Spam Zombie pits that the cantinas have become. Try that around a port when you see some peopel talking.... OOPS! Forgot. You CAN'T. Because as you said, people are forced to talk in Tells and group chat now. Its as if the devs decided that "Okay. Everyones had a chance to meet people and make friends. Dont need any more of that going on."
Have you ever tried to hold a conversation in a noisey bar or club? (a real.. not virtual one)
Simple they dont work as an effective form of advertising. No one ever used those boards in UO to sell anything
FlawedDiamond wrote:
What's wrong with a Simple Public Bulletin Board system or Classifieds like they used in Ultima for ages? Or a variation of the Bazaar where people could simply POST their advertisements by category?
The current system is SO subject to abuse that its Amazing that someone at SOE hasnt said "OOOPS!" and realized what they've done.
FlawedDiamond wrote:
There IS something you can do. Start Collecting Spammer names. Everyone time you see one spamming ... /addignore and add a line to your bio that say you dont serve or patronize Spammers. It wont take a LOT of us. Just enough to start putting a litle fear in them.
Tell me... what would you do if you saw a good long-time friend of yours spamming at corenet? put them on your ignore list? and dont give mea cop outanswer like "oh none of my friends would do that".
Nialo
Sat May 29, 2004 10:29 am
#25
FlawedDiamond Writes
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So someone goes boohoo when I say I ignore Spammers and dont provide them with services. Yea true. They dont really care that I personally dont deal with them. But you know what. If more and more people start collecting Spammer names in their ignore list, start NOT patronizing them or providing them with services after a while even the 13 and 14 yr old Spammers will figure out that its not productive. I know several Doctors who collect Spammer names and dont heal or buff anyone on that list. Its beginning. An architect I know just started that yesterday and she no longer will provide services to anyone on her ignore list.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again.... players don't yell out their ads because they "want" to. They yell them out because they "need" to. Add all of advertisers you want to your ignore list - If you have anything on Chilastra, my names are Korion, Nialo, and Itro. The bottom line is this, however: Because players need to advertise, if you continue adding everyone to your ignore list, eventually YOU are the one being ignored by EVERYBODY, because you've eliminated your own vessel of communication. Each to his own though.
The only other thing that baffles me here is the fact that you're having so much problem talking to your friends at the starport or cantina... why are they all there???? LOL
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