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Thread: Droid Report: What's being done about this....Invasion?!?

TashSunrider
Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:21 am
#14

Seriously guy...

DE is next to useless and SOE keeps promising you stuff just to back out or Nerf your already nerfed stuff even further.
My bunny is a better fighter than my Probot.

How much longer are you going to allow SOE to fool you before you start a riot in here?


Everyone playing this game would stand behind you since the one thing which would make this game feel a lot more star wars (right, droids as we see them in the dozens in the movies) isnt fixed and practically non-existent.
TheRealTK421
Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:32 am
#15






JavelinCatcher wrote:

Overall, I think the damage control that happened yesterday went pretty well.


TK, can we get a general idea to which proposal they are leaning towards that would be acceptable to them? How about a list of things they have problems with about the proposal?






I'm trying to get this right now (no ETA though).


I've already dropped one major concern on Sodan (but it came from other Corrs, not from the Devs themselves)...

Ranged Support = disadvantageous situation for melee types



This makes sense to me. We want the melee players to get an equal shot at these. So, we need to consider if there is a better way to more properly 'cert' the ranged vs. melee folk. Just an example.


/bow

Respectfully,






TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
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Envoy3113
Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:38 am
#16

Could be Master Brawlers new gift after the Warcry nerf. Depends on the level/number of certs. As a pikeman for my main I'll tell you having any type of pet out is more trouble than it was worth imo. 3 cents.


N/M, looking at the whole picture now

Message Edited by Envoy3113 on 03-17-2004 07:41 AM



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JavelinCatcher
Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:12 am
#17






Envoy3113 wrote:

Could be Master Brawlers new gift after the Warcry nerf. Depends on the level/number of certs. As a pikeman for my main I'll tell you having any type of pet out is more trouble than it was worth imo. 3 cents.


N/M, looking at the whole picture now

Message Edited by Envoy3113 on 03-17-2004 07:41 AM






It would not be adventagous to put it in Master Brawler because the skill point expendature would be more than getting Marksman + range support.


However, I do think that this problem was the premise for putting a modifier (plus a cap) at each of the tier 4 levels of each of the basic professions. So as I see it, we've already presented a alternative solution.


/sarcasm


Then again, we could always put it at Unarmed 4 and Range support 4 because it seems every brawler has some TKA/unarmed.


/sarcasm off

Message Edited by JavelinCatcher on 03-17-2004 08:14 AM



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Pallida
Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:31 am
#18






TheRealTK421 wrote:





JavelinCatcher wrote:

Overall, I think the damage control that happened yesterday went pretty well.


TK, can we get a general idea to which proposal they are leaning towards that would be acceptable to them? How about a list of things they have problems with about the proposal?






I'm trying to get this right now (no ETA though).


I've already dropped one major concern on Sodan (but it came from other Corrs, not from the Devs themselves)...

Ranged Support = disadvantageous situation for melee types



This makes sense to me. We want the melee players to get an equal shot at these. So, we need to consider if there is a better way to more properly 'cert' the ranged vs. melee folk. Just an example.


/bow

Respectfully,









hmm... When I think of a"brawler" and then look at the skill tree for the SWG brawler... I also see a potential for "thrown weapons".. (i.e.: knives, hammers, and other somewhat light-weight kinetic-damage weapons)...


Perhaps by adding this capability to the Brawler treethe melee typescan bettercounter the "stand off and pound" advantage of a Droid?


just my .02cr worth


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RotorofCorRng
Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:44 am
#19

[quote]SOE apparently is incapable of understanding that Star Wars is not EverQuest and that most of us play SWG rather than EQ because we don't want to play EQ.[/quote]

And the crowd went wild.

A big AMEN! for that comment.

I never played EQ, never will. Star Wars I like. The monkeys want to turn into EQ In Space.........err........wait, we dont have Space yet.



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Sarly
Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:47 am
#20

I played Everquest for 5 years, SWG is a totally different game.



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KruppeRift
Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:03 am
#21



Sarly wrote:
I played Everquest for 5 years, SWG is a totally different game.





WRONG SWG and the developers time is VERY VERY VERY biased towards the combat professions...

Yes a greater percentage of players are combat orientated, so they deserve a bit more attention, but the LACK of SERIOUS attention to the crafting professions is scandalous... The only reason the majority of people take up the crafting professions is because of the HUGE profits that can be made by one or two of the professions... (AKA WS/AS/ARCH..)

I started this game as a Merchant from day 2, was one of the first master merchants on my server, and I just could not operate in any way shape of form due to some VERY serious MAJOR class breaking bugs to the profession and it took months to even get on the devs list of things to do. We eventually get a fix (which didnt even work completely) to make it so items didnt just poof from vendors... I mean how important is a bug like that to the whole merchant class, and they took 3-4 months minimum to come up with a solution, while they tinkered with every combat profession out there...



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SiameseFluff
Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:08 am
#22

TK...



Keep up the good work. I'm also getting 'tells' concerning HOW bad these Droids are. People are trying out their droids against their friends...and their friends can kick their droids dead in almost one hit sometimes. And the Ham on these are over 1k



Currently still working to get Sunrunner DEs togeather. I'll get to you about how the situation is on Sunrunner later.







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RotorofCorRng
Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:10 am
#23

[quote] I played Everquest for 5 years, SWG is a totally different game.[/quote]

I will take your word for that, I never played it (EQ) as stated. However, I can see the tendencies towards a D&D type game. Pets before Droids, Mounts before Vehicles, Underground Dungeons vs I dont know something more representative of Starwars (alla Corvette).

Not only that, but the hard headed bullness of avoiding change towards SciFi that really frustrates me.



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Kilarny
Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:25 am
#24






TheRealTK421 wrote:





JavelinCatcher wrote:

Overall, I think the damage control that happened yesterday went pretty well.


TK, can we get a general idea to which proposal they are leaning towards that would be acceptable to them? How about a list of things they have problems with about the proposal?






I'm trying to get this right now (no ETA though).


I've already dropped one major concern on Sodan (but it came from other Corrs, not from the Devs themselves)...

Ranged Support = disadvantageous situation for melee types



This makes sense to me. We want the melee players to get an equal shot at these. So, we need to consider if there is a better way to more properly 'cert' the ranged vs. melee folk. Just an example.


/bow

Respectfully,








I still think the way to go is to give the CL10+ combat droids to Masters of non-combat professions, and forbid it to Novice or higher of combat professions.


Better not let those droid types have the 'friend' command tho.

You could still combine this with the Hybrid proposal as well, allowing the DE/DH people to have those combat professions that would otherwise invalidate their Combat Droid certification.


Malitevv
Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:26 am
#25






KruppeRift wrote:


WRONG SWG and the developers time is VERY VERY VERY biased towards the combat professions...





I have come to the same decision. This game is very different than EQ, and it has a huge potential with respect to the non-combat professions to shine as something really unique. And it is unique. But the development effort has not been on the professions that contribute to the economy. Most importantly, radical changes that severely transform the way business works in the game are thrown out every once and a while with no apparent thought about how this is going to harm the economy.


I'm trying to run a business in this game and I feel like I am working in a country where the federal reserve policies are schizophrenic. My business cannot function in an environment where the fundamental rules of how my business is run change every 4 weeks.



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3D4D
Wed Mar 17, 2004 12:07 pm
#26





to be frank, i don't care how they do it, i just want the devs to implement cl10+ droids to the game SOMEHOW. EVERYONE is asking about them - they want to ditch their pets and get droids because they are soooo much more star wars. If that means they have to ditch ch with their pets and get dh then so be it.


Please, ANYTHING - just get on it soon so we can spread some love






Totally agree with this.




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