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Thread: A current example of Droid pricing. Why CPU only is silly.

RasalTheWise
Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:28 pm
#14


TheRealTK421 wrote:


Crustyfur wrote:

10k per Crate of 5 Seekers
16k per Crate of 5 Arakyd


10k per Crate of 5 Arakyds
12k per Crate of 10 Seekers


Note: I don't expect to make much on these, as they are 'loss leaders' for things like bomb droids, Space stuff and other products. I use them solely to get people coming back to the shop.


/bow

Respectfully,





I agree. I tend to buy 1:1 resources to make my BH droids (since you can make top-notch BH droids with crap resources), so selling them at 2 or 3 CPU still makes me a tidy profit, and it makes them cheap enough so people always come to me for droid needs.




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Straker_Atrella
Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:09 pm
#15






EnigmaBSc wrote:
I don't want to get into any big debate here. My philosophy is that everybody has a right to charge what they like, provided they are not subsidising their business with another source of income. I sell at the lower end of the scale and I do so on a CPU basis. All my additional costs - factories, speeder maintenance, vendors etc. is factored in by a doubling of the base costs. Profit is then a doubling of that value. It's just my way of working. It's not because I'm stupid or don't understand business or anything like that, I have my reasons for selling at the prices I do.

I get on well with other DEs on my server and I certainly am not putting anyone out of business with my way of doing things - case in point, Crustyfur has entered the DE world on my server and seemed to be doing very nicely last I spoke to him (actually, it's been a while - I've been away a bit - how are things going now?).

Selling by CPU only isn't silly, it's just different. In fact you contradict yourself, you say pricing by CPU is silly and then justify it by talking about the price of avian meat - in CPU!

EnigmaBSc




My use of the CPU of Avian meat only shows tha value of the Droid. The Droid paying for itself so quickly at even a higher cost should be part of the pricing. Not adding what the Droid can do for the owner into your pricing is what I consider silly. You said so yourself, that is not a factor for you. Meaning that Entertainer Droid will sell for just as much as that Harvest Droid. Even though the harvest droid will make it's owner a lot of money.


I know for a fact that the Docs paying 250 CPU for that Avian meat will be charging a lot for the buffs they sell, and it wont be on a CPU basis.





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CuoreDE
Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:04 am
#16

My friend is a Master Doctor and explained that it wasn't CPU that he uses to determine the price of buffs, but it's his time to sit there and apply the buffs that kicks up the price. Plus the cost of Chef food that he uses is high too. He can't buff peoplewith a vendor, and he can't do anything else while buffing.


From the looks of things I've been selling my Seeker and Arakyd droids too low (5K for a crate of 5 Seekers, 6K for a crate of 5 Arakyds). Looks like I might have to boost my prices a bit, but I'm still a relatively new DE so I'm feeling out the market. I know I need to increase my prices on items that require rare resources and several factory runs. The main thing is that I mine all my own resources and power, so my costs are not much. Also being a Master Architect I can make my own factories.


As forthe 57 power Adv R3 Bomb Droids, I wouldn't sell them for under 100K now, since the Tolium gas is rare and quality is very important. I am quickly running out of this gas and there hasn't been a good spawn in a long time. I can't count how many factory runs it took to make these bomb droids in crates. This boost the difficulty up and increases the price. Plus if I sold these for much less, I would get constant /tells for more. I already get about 3 or 4 tells a day asking about these.


Cuore




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MachineZed
Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:00 am
#17






TheRealTK421 wrote:





Crustyfur wrote:


10k per Crate of 5 Seekers


16k per Crate of 5 Arakyd





10k per Crate of 5 Arakyds

12k per Crate of10 Seekers


Note: I don't expect to make much on these, as they are 'loss leaders' for things like bomb droids, Space stuff and other products. I use them solely to get people coming back to the shop.


/bow

Respectfully,








How do you get 10 in acrate of Seekers, I believe mine always come out in 5 of crate.


I sell mine for 8k and 4k. Probes to seekers respectively.


My other question is does anybody else see this regularly: When ever the items drop off my vendor, someone always comes in and buys 2 to 3 of what ever is falling off. It looks weird cause I will have about 30 emails of Aution Unsuccesfull and about 5 of Vendor Item Purchased.




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TheRealTK421
Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:19 am
#18






MachineZed wrote:

How do you get 10 in acrate of Seekers, I believe mine always come out in 5 of crate.




/shrug

I just use good resources and experiment.



/bow

Respectfully,






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GnomeAd
Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:58 am
#19



TheRealTK421 wrote:


MachineZed wrote:

How do you get 10 in a crate of Seekers, I believe mine always come out in 5 of crate.


/shrug

I just use good resources and experiment.



/bow

Respectfully,





I think he was confusing seekers with probes. Probes always come in crates of 5 and seekers are always crated in 10s.
MachineZed
Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:53 am
#20

No no silly me. I was thinking of the actual crate size. Not the indiviual seeker. You know you get 5 stacks of the 10 Seekers, and 5 stacks of 5 Probes in each crate.


But I am ok now

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TheRealTK421
Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:58 am
#21

Yea....that 5 crate size limit is one of the banes of my MDE existence. I think they need to up it to, say, 20.



/bow

Respectfully,



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Talmor1
Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:02 pm
#22

That would help prevent DE from undercutting other DEs on the BH droid market (they would not be able to sell them on Bazaar for 6k per unit without TOTALLY loosing money.


On a side note, Do any of you buy these totally cheap droids from other DE and mark them up? (e.g. Undercutting DE sells for 5k for seeker droids and you mark it up to 10k) Was wondering if that would work. However, it seems a bit underhanded.



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Imaladris
Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:20 pm
#23

I now sell my seekers and Araykds for 30k a crate..... I once was at 10k a crate but they sold out in hours. At 30k a crate I sell a full factory run on each in about 10-15 days. Keeps me from making so many GP and Mem mod's......



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Talmor1
Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:32 pm
#24

Right now, I am having difficulty selling them for my price of 10k-seeker crate and 12k-arkyd crate. I have placed like 50 of each type on my vendor. The problem I have is that some someone else is selling them of half the cost on the same planet. Maybe it is because I just have not rebuilt my clientel base yet. In due time, in due time.



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GnomeAd
Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:46 pm
#25

Seeker sales are always going to be limited until they fix the bug which allows BHs over Inv 3 to have unlimited seekers. The probes are pretty much limited since at most a BH will only use 1-2 per mark.
Gron_DM
Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:23 pm
#26

not to tangent i sell allot of bh droids as old de but i do it in runs of 2:1 so i make 2 runs of probes and 1 run of seekers and they sell out at almost the same rate. more or less, depends obviously on the number of new vs old bh's you have visting your vendor. i sell the bomb mse for 10k per and seekers/probes 10k each as well.its taken me months to do that markup as previous didnt have the client base..........my advice for you new DE's is go to theed, coronet, and dant to open your shops and put them either in a good mall or just make sure you spam for that shop for awhile your biz will come fast enough trust me.



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