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Thread: If you are new to Droid Engineering or to this forum, please read.

Shian_Tavkin
Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:23 pm
#14


I think the thread was started with the right 'spirit' in mind..gently persuasive and offering the hand of friendship once certain reading obligations were taken care of. Obligations I say, its only fair to do a little homework for such a complex prefession as ours.


That said, I was totally confused as to what to do on my first days back in game when Pilots asked for Astromechs....I missed JTL entirely. Happily my old guildie is now a Shipwright and I found out fast.


I do believe we have some of the best 'stickies' of all the forums..Grats big time to the hard work of the unmentionable fellows who keep them up to date


Cheers



Message Edited by Shian_Tavkin on 06-03-2005 07:28 PM



Shian -- Master Droid Engineer/ Master Artisan
Ackdel
Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:56 am
#15






Lamgwin wrote:

The other thing you should know is that if you discuss the XP reduction with combat droids you will not only be viciously attacked, you will simultaneously be accused of BEING the attacker yourself. If you object to this classification, your objections will, summarily and without explanation or comment, be deleted. If you disagree with GnomeAd, Drashk, or RasaltheWise, you will be villified and persecuted until you are eventually banned or deleted.


This forum is NOT to discuss the relative merits of any given feature of Droids, nor to spitball ideas for the improvement of droids. It is very simply purposed for you to OBSERVE while the chosen ones discuss, and to see but not be heard.





You DO realize none of the above people can delete posts, right? Right?




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Lamgwin
Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:58 am
#16

I know what I saw. I did nothing other than disagree with these people and I was subsequently destroyed for it. Whether they had someone else do their dirty work is moot.



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Jenden
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:27 am
#17



Lamgwin wrote:
I know what I saw. I did nothing other than disagree with these people and I was subsequently destroyed for it. Whether they had someone else do their dirty work is moot.



The only people with the power to delete posts are red names and forum admins. Even then, none of the posts get deleted, they just get moved. If you would like to know why your posts were deleted you can as usually either virrago or Garva as they're the ones in charge of that kind of thing.



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Lamgwin
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:31 am
#18

GarVa doesn't seem to care if people are hostile are jerky, as long as they are supporint a Sony policy. Apparently you must be the dissenter to get moderated.At least I can warn other people where not to tread. Which is to say, with whom not to disagree.



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Jenden
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:45 am
#19



Lamgwin wrote:
GarVa doesn't seem to care if people are hostile are jerky, as long as they are supporint a Sony policy. Apparently you must be the dissenter to get moderated. At least I can warn other people where not to tread. Which is to say, with whom not to disagree.




I've seen a number of posts pointing out various problems and shortfalls of SOE that don't get deleted, it just requires that you keep things civil. Comming up with conspiracy theories and throwing around accusations is generally not considered civil, especially not in the DE boards which I like to think tends to be a bit more cool headed and mature than most others.



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Lamgwin
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:47 am
#20

Don't lecture me about civil, I was more than civil. I was painstakingly civil. And the two other posters were nowhere NEAR civil. Yet we see who got deleted and who did not.


I was abundantly civil. It didn't matter ONE bit.





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Aglanon
Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:41 am
#21


I have looked through these posts and carefully considered what has happened, and let me say this:


I personally believe that based on what I've seen, the tones and words used by others, and the tones and words used by lamgwin, that Garva simply does not like lamgwin and it is influencing his decision making when moderating. Lamgwin may come across with a know-it-all tone, but that is hardly worth banning.


I've been told since I brought this xp thing up:


"Here is some advice: Enjoy the game. If you find some aspect that you do not enjoy, don't use it."


"they need to give you and the other fifty million people like you their own forum. I would call it the **Mod Bot - Be Nice** Forum. That way people could argue back and forth with each other on a subject that is going no where and will never stop. We are DE's. We make the droids. We don't dictate how much xp they will give you. "


"XP is shared equally with all group members. There is even a +3% increase to xp for each group member added.Did you not get the memo?" (Notice the nice little addition at the end there, by a correspondent no less, condescending enough for you Garva?)


I didn't hear any interjections on MY behalf when people were condescending ME.


I think Garva knows that it is not worth banning someone for something as flimsy as "you're a know-it-all", but simply doesn't like lamgwin for this reason, and most likely also disagrees with him, and it is causing him to single lamgwin out.


It's not a "conspiracy theory" to think that a moderator, a human being, could be petty. Apparently, Garva is.




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Straker_Atrella
Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:57 am
#22

There is no clique here on the DE forums, no chosen people who are the only ones allowed to post. We quite often disagree with each other all the time, every voice is respected new and old. The people agreeing today are the ones arguing tomorrow. If a post was deleted, then somebody (it could have been anybody,) stepped over the line. If just your comments were deleted, then you did something wrong.


It has nothingto do with the people you were arguing against. The very fact that you would come and post this just proves that you want to cause trouble and lends credence to why your posts got deleted.



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HesDeadJim
Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:04 pm
#23

Well it isn't going to win you any friends in this forum when you make a thread in the General Game Discussion forum telling people not to buy Droids (as lamgwin did). lamgwin needs to brush up on his diplomacy. As well as his knowledge of how useful Droids are.
Skizzik-
Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:57 pm
#24






Aglanon wrote:


"they need to give you and the other fifty million people like you their own forum. I would call it the **Mod Bot - Be Nice** Forum. That way people could argue back and forth with each other on a subject that is going no where and will never stop. We are DE's. We make the droids. We don't dictate how much xp they will give you. "






just to make it clear, that wasn't directed at you. It was directed at lamgwin, and only because he was the most vocal. And Lamgwin before you flame me, i actually look forward to seeing posts by you. You don't take any crap.



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