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Thread: NEW UBER COMBAT DROIDS STATS : CUSTOMERS PLZ READ!

sgt0802
Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:58 am
#14

Man. This is horrible. I bet you guys feel worse than I did when the Jedi bounty missions came out only to find out that I couldn't track them Well, some invasion. I'm sorry guys but, everyone should have known better when you're dealing with SOE.
XpNsVe
Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:46 pm
#15






colyte wrote:
Why don't people get this...

Its about MONEY!

Obviously SOE is going to save the content for their expansion. Goes without saying.

"Droid Invasion" is a game mechanic patch for us to kindly test out for them. Paying on the fly too.

IT'S ALL ABOUT MAKING MONEY!

Spam mail SOE so they can thank us all for paticipating in the alpha test and refund our money too.

And dont forget, tell them to pay us for playing their upcomming beta.


Only reason this game is still pretty big customer wise, is because of the "Starwars" trademark.

Damn Lucas Arts for giving this game to SOE. Damn them.


Cheers! Go cancel your accounts so they get the picture.

Damn Lucas Arts, fekk SOE and ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY!

There!





Why else would they make a game?



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Daisame
Wed Mar 17, 2004 11:09 pm
#16


Looks like droids have become almost more worthless than before. I mean.. .if you need a portable buff machine or some extra storage, they work great. Asside from that, pretty worthless.


I was looking forward to using a cool combat droid for long distance fights and a pet for the melee stuff. Looks like that is not going to happen anytime soon. Glad I have my pre-nerfed-nerf probot =). 3000HAM =) (or thereabouts)

Message Edited by Daisame on 03-18-2004 01:13 AM



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KarlieOkota
Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:15 am
#17

Dear Arnwald,


Thank you ever so much for your post. I have been sending people this way to see droid possibilities while I run through my own experiments. I managed to get a few hours of experimentation on patch day with the new crafting system, and I have to say I was extremely impressed. However, since its removal I have not been able to craft droids with maximumHAM anymore. Please could you let me know if you are still ablecraft droids withmaximum HAM?


Kindest regards,

Karlie Okota

Master Droid Engineer

The CONSORTIUM




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TheNosveratu
Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:23 am
#18



I just had a thought. All us DE's are choked right? We all feel decived right? We would all love to punish those who mislead us right? I mean we are the customers right? And most of us long hauler's are near burnt out......so.....


You always hear about folks saying "I am quiting the game! That's it ! I love star wars but I'm done! This game is bugged out and the Dev's don't listen". But honestly we all know (as we can smell our kind) that in the end, spazzing aside, we simply won't quit something that has so much potential and thatwe worked(and hoped)so hard at. SO how bout this. A realistic boy-cot ; WE ALL TAKE ONE PARTICULAR MONTH OFF. Thats right. We organise, chose a month and cancel our accounts for that single month. I mean Geez we could really use a break. All this dissapointment and endless anticipation is a wee bit frustrating for somthing we pay to do. I mean this sorta thing may really make em think and hit em (SOE)hard, in the only thing that matters to em, the pocket book. Class action boils and goils. You live in a democracy! Get into it! We can make a differance. Money talks.


PS I don't blame the Dev's. I mean they would love to double there staff. But that fact is the Exec's call the shots not the artists and craftsmen. The Dev's prolley hate giving us smoking mirrors as much as we hate receiving em.

ASHRID
Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:55 am
#19

"When all the DE's Told ThunderHeart NO NEW DROID HANDLER CLASS, That was the end of new Combat Droid Frames. Its no suprise DE's."


Since when did new frames have tobe above CL10??????????????


The droid handler class NEVER meant we'd never get new droids, only that we'd never get HIGHER LEVEL droids
Arnwald
Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:56 am
#20






KarlieOkota wrote:

Dear Arnwald,


Thank you ever so much for your post. I have been sending people this way to see droid possibilities while I run through my own experiments. I managed to get a few hours of experimentation on patch day with the new crafting system, and I have to say I was extremely impressed. However, since its removal I have not been able to craft droids with maximumHAM anymore. Please could you let me know if you are still ablecraft droids withmaximum HAM?


Kindest regards,

Karlie Okota

Master Droid Engineer

The CONSORTIUM






Well I used a special button it is labelled "Surrender skills" I had to do this exactly 22 times.



Actually I don't know if I will go to the BE profession as I was told the crafting system is very fun, or towards the Chief one as good bucks flood through them and I find the chief hat neat!


If the publish 8 is good (for droids)I would be happy to take the DE hat!


Actually mylove goes to TK, Audio, Jenden,etc... all wich still have hope and are trying to do their best about droids.


Maybe we won't have uber combat droids and I can tell I don't care IF we would have utility droids.
But with SOE statement on NO utility droids skills enhancers and so on I don't see it ever coming.


The future I see, moving it is!


I don't have force sence IV so here are my guess :


Players wanted to have a Jedi and Lucasarts heard them.
They are obliging SOE to give all the player the ability to play Jedi.
Why that? Because good(?) MMORPG are coming and it is a matter of bucks.
You can't play a Jedi, you nearly have no hope to unlock, the Jedi grinding is so boring and not jedi like, there are too many broken professions and features...
(don't make me wrong the game is still good)


So Lucasarts read reports on multiple reviews got lots of emails about the actual system and stepped into.


We can see the future patches will introducehuge changes in the unlocking and the Jedi grinding system.
Actually with a 24/7/365 macro grinding you need over one year to master Jedi!!!
Wich is impossible to acheive due to server reboot and you need some sleep...
Without using 3d party clicking softwares you would need over 3 years to be a master Jedi as you need some sleep for example...


An other issue is the uber templates.


Lately SOE took an action and caped the defenses bonus.


They are working on combat revamp, the first pass was to make big mobs with insane ham and resist like the new NPC droids 140k ham or the Krayt dragons...


The second pass would be to change the specials they would each much more ham but the ham would regen faster.

This way you won't be able to spam the same special over and over and they are lowering the damage output of the players.


The whole idea of this combat revamp is to lower the damage output of the palyers and make the combat system more dynamic : they are forcing us to group and they want us to stop spaming the same special over and over.


I see a few weakness in the system :


  1. shuttle aren't synchronised anymore, a simple meeting could lead in +40 min wayting

  2. preparation -if you group that is you are going to hunt big mobs ==> buffs.It could take much time to find a doc and get the whole group buffed.

  3. new ham cost andfast regen : if bad done could kill the need of non masters docs

  4. high damaging mobs : without 70-90% armors you can't fight mobs wich deals over 1k damage a hit, totally insane.

  5. the damage output of mobs just kill the armors too fast : duration of an armor= about a week for a real hunter group

  6. weapon decays too fast : weapon duration less than a week actually

  7. special moves : well damage output of lower specials should increase with levelling, rollshot is nice but once you getbodyshot II you nearly never use it...

  8. obliging players to group could be fine if all of them would be assured to get a loot wich isn't the case

  9. most of the uber mobs still drops CDEF pistols oh yes with 19 potency poison

Well it is a DE forum I'm out of topic, anyway I wanted to share my thought.


May the force bring you a Droideka instead of a glowing stick!

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