Droid Engineer Archive

Thread: SOE should promote Old World Craftsmanship!

Ke_la
Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:45 am
#14

Nerfing the factories just to satisfy your own particular play style isn't the way to increase participation in the DE profession, since your play style is in no way universal. I for one would have no reason to continue playing a DE, since efficiency would be out the window and quality, no matter what bonuses, would be based on a random die roll for each and every subcomponent.


That's not a good idea. The ramifications are all bad. Demand would NOT increase, but instead decrease. DE's would drop out of the profession. Supply would go down to nil. At a certain point, low supply destroys demand.







So now BUFFING on profession or playstyle is NERFING another ok then, I guess we need to go back to the days befor Doc buffs and chef food and combate droids.... because its nerfing everyone else. And I don't see how GIVEING bonuses to HANDMAKEING things is a nerf to factories cause you can still crackout the exsact same droid you are now. As for Decress in demand well I guess that is why there are no WS making Krayt Weopons or Armor Smiths with adv. armor segments or Stat cloths for sell. All of theses are bounuses that Require EXTRA work and ALL are in demand however there is a low suply. Now this maybe alittle hard for you but if you have a BETTER product there will be a Demand for that product wether or not there is a supply. Secondly, there will always be the people who buy the pinto because its cheaper.


Lastly you CAN"T get "a partularly well made droid"(episode 1{I know I try to forget it too}) from a Factory.





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Seyyal
Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:25 am
#15

bugatti , rolls royce, and bentley's are all hand made arent they but i could get a honda from a factory...my 2cents on the car analogy not the topic lol...



i dont think hand crafted droids should be better stat wise but how bout some customization u cant do in a factory...extra colors or some such i dunno..just thinking aloud again


Handsnake
Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:45 am
#16






Seyyal wrote:

bugatti , rolls royce, and bentley's are all hand made arent they but i could get a honda from a factory...my 2cents on the car analogy not the topic lol...



i dont think hand crafted droids should be better stat wise but how bout some customization u cant do in a factory...extra colors or some such i dunno..just thinking aloud again







(by the way, Rolls Royce bodywork and finishing is done by hand - engines, transmissions, other critical mechanical workings are factory made)



This correction brings up an alternate proposal in my mind.


Instead of nerfing factories (stat changes) if you really want to have people come to DE's, and have our presence appreciated and requested (anyone have contant I need an armorsmith for repair? Any on? in your guildchat?) then perhaps we could do more with the following:


1. Customization of Readied (old) Droids


Allow for the addition of up to 2 general OR 1 combat modules to an already Readied ADV droid. This would require a /consent and a repair droid. Resources could be based on OQ and CON, allowing for the customization to have some resource impact.



Recommend that the combat module option also require a manipulator arm set of the same mech quality or higher than the combat module.


Recommend that the general module option require an ADV Frame component with the same mech quality or higher than the general module.


2. Additional module slots of Deeded Droids


Allow for the addition of up to3 general and 1 combat module to be added to any ADV deed, excepting MSE droids (suggestion for MSE ADV - 1 additional general module and 1 combat {ranged attack only}, max)


Non ADV deeds (excluding the MSE) could have 2 general modules added max.


As before, this would require a /consent and a repair droid. Resources could be based onlyon OQ, allowing for the customization to have some resource impact and giving a benefit for pre-ordering (besides the greater number of slots).



Recommend that the combat module option also require a manipulator arm set of the same mech quality or higher than the combat module.


Recommend that the general module option require an ADV Frame component with the same mech quality or higher than the general module.



3. (And I'm going to get hell for this one) CustomCombat Modules


These combat modules would be onlyable to be fitted in single slots at Deeded or Readied Customization steps.


These would REQUIRE as a component2 identicalnon-sliced pistols and a 100 plus rated Combat module. The additional combat rating would be 1/5 the MINIMUM damage the weapon would do PLUS the rating of the Combat Module component. The damage TYPE for the droid would be changed (anyone want to see a genosian stun pistol based droid? )



The upshot is that


1. People would bring their droids in for servicing;


2. Final 'craftsmanship' would allow customization on factory readied units (allowing both 'industrialists' and cottage workshop DE's to benefit)


3. Allow DE's to act as a 'money and item sink'


4. Give DE's the satisfaction of being a prized craftsman


5. Allow specialization for Combat droid loving DE's


and


6. Go a heck of a long way to make combat droids attractive to customers.



Thoughts?





Repub Arnaz
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Handsnake
Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:48 am
#17

Correction to number 1: ADV MSE Readied droids could have only 1 general module or 1 combat module added.



Repub Arnaz
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Handsnake
Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:25 am
#18

Additional suggestions/clarifications:


1. The Deeded Customization step may be difficult to implement vis-a-vis the use of a repair droid.

An alternative suggestion is that each module slot customization have as a required component a rating 14.5 or higher Weapon/Droid tool. (throwing some business to Master Artisans too).


Every additional .1 rating on the tool would increase HAM by 5 to a max of 50 increase.



2. Clarification/Correction to Custom Combat Modules

The Custom Combat module should require either 2 identical pistols (giving a 1/5 min damage boost) or 1 units (giving a 1/10th boost based on the minimum damage).


The best way to implement this is to have 2 schems: Custom Combat A and B modules, where A has 1 slot for a pistol, whilst the B module would have a slot for 2 identical pistols. Both would change the damage type for the entire droid.








Repub Arnaz
~~MDE/MWS/MArtisan

Lovely Goontown, Naboo
I live in Goontown. I forgot where my house is.
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