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Thread: DISCUSSION: Grinding through DE (sticky isn't enough) info & questions. Haters don't bother

MusicManZarick
Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:09 pm
#14







Level I boxes - 104 ADF X3 boxes = 46800 Steel 21840 FIber


Level II boxes - 146 ADF X3 boxes = 65700 s 30660 f


Level III boxes - 186 ADF X4 boxes = 111600 s 52080 f


Level IV boxes - 228 ADF X4 boxes = 136800 s 66840 f


grand total of - 664 ADF - 360900 steel - 168420 fiberplast.





Well, your resource calculation was right. But your grand total of actual ADF's is a bit low. It's 664 to go all the way through one tree. Once you hit BP2, you're looking at 2406 SUCCESFULLY CRAFTED ADF's to get all the boxes. But that is 360900 Steel and 168420 Fiber, so that part came up right. Not really "nit picking" the math, just wanted to make sure people saw the correct, staggering number of ADF's needed to master this thing.


I have (I'm setting myself at 0 XP even though that's not accurate) 1120 ADF's to go...
168000 Steel and 78400 fiber. Gee, and I think I have a massive 21K steel and 30K fiber right now.. heheh








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Bigface
Sat Dec 27, 2003 2:35 pm
#15

A note on harvesters.A rate 10 medium will give a heck of a lot more units than 1000 a day I get 10000 or more depending on the resource %. On grinding I threw a harvester on extrusive and banged out manipulator arm package sets to get to BP3. They give more than double the MSE xp and only need a couple extra clicks. It went pretty fast for me. And as far as macros go with five crafting stations and no macros I can go from advanced to master in a little over an hour. The enter key is truely your best friend. (with four crafting stations I was having to wait 1 second for it to finish) If it wasn't for the sweet cash of making vehicles I would already be master. But as I always say if you don't like what I say do what ya want cause you're going to do it anyway.
kayxfour
Sat Dec 27, 2003 2:46 pm
#16

Something i'll throw in, just a general crafting tip for the noobs: You can double click a resource and it will fill its proper slot. I was dragging and dropping for the longest time, and apparently i'm not the only one. Double clicking is MUCH faster.

On a more personal note, i'm Currently 1/2/4/4. The resources are hitting an all time low for me, but things are still moving along. I've completely bought out the only good dealer I could find (he was selling bulk of both for 2.5cpu) and i've been buying up every steel/fiberplast resource that is listed on the bazaar for 3.5cpu or lower, so I guess now it's all a waiting game.



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CaixCatab
Sat Dec 27, 2003 4:24 pm
#17

I got my 0001 DE box a week or two or three ago and I havn't touched anything droid related since (not counting the DZ70-oh-no-I'm-being-pwned-by-butterfly I named ChaseI. The coolest the thing with him is the fact that since he isn't usefull in a fight, I can without feeling guilty for it, make his attack command 'engage' instead of 'a') and I'm sick to the bones of MSE's. Since I'm too lazy to travel of planet for my extrusive ore, I spend my time tailoring instead. Which is fun, but it's not the profession I decided I wanted to play before the game was released (hah, I almost said "left beta", but I caught myself before making such a blatant display of faulty judgement).


So someone mentioned something about "medical MSE". It doesn't sound like your average MSE, which immensly improves my mental health. Is it just the normal MSE with the craft bonus for the med module added in, or does the fact that you incorporate them into the same little black body yield extra exp?




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WarHero1016
Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:04 pm
#18

I found this thread very helpfull, after reading this plus the sticky I now have a macro that works very well for me, this is my first attempt at macro crafting and works! Will make things much faster and way less clicking.



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kayxfour
Sat Dec 27, 2003 11:56 pm
#19

Well guys, i'm done! Thanks for all the help, all I need is some apprentice exp (i'm 4/4/4/4 now) and i'll be on my way to the next holo profession! MDE in 2 days!



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NeutralMonk
Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:21 am
#20

The finish macro that you posted didn't work for me.



/nextCraftingStage; - what is that suppose to do? Go from the page where you dump in all your resources into the slots to the next page? If it is it didn't work. Any ideas?


TNCC_Demon
Sun Dec 28, 2003 5:02 pm
#21

Whats the fastest way to grind through engineering 1-4 of artisan to get to novice de?




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Combat_Medic_to_be
Sun Dec 28, 2003 5:33 pm
#22

The way im doing it is making generic melle upgrade cause they use very little resources and im skint as anything atm although you only get 20xp for making one so i only did it for the first box, not sure what to make for it now though.



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TNCC_Demon
Sun Dec 28, 2003 6:39 pm
#23

does anyone know what gives the most XP for Engineering 2? (working on 3)




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Kollos
Sun Dec 28, 2003 11:01 pm
#24






Sodan-droiddreamer wrote:

I appreciate you taking the time to search first. Cant answer all your questions away from my home PC, but MSEs to Adv Frames to MDE is THE way to do it.


Get medium extractors with Base Extracton Rate 10. You'll need like 6 mineral and three chem and a power harv (fusion is best). Put them on steel and fiberplast and wait for them to harvest your resources. Buying is too expensive.







Actually, it is significantly faster to build Manipulator Arm Package Sets from Blueprints I to Blueprints II if you have access to Extrusive Ore. Extrusive Ore is uncommon, but not all that rare, so if you keep an eye out for it while you're grinding through Engineering and Blueprints I you should be able to harvest the 17k or so that you'll need. Or just buy some - even at5 CPU (an exhorbitant price for an LG Ore) the 85k it costs you is trivial compared to having to build another 249867219 of those blasted MSE droids.


Handy conversion formula for harvesters:BER * 1000 = 24-hour output on a 70% spot.


One Fusion-Ion Generator pulls down 14k per day (70% concentration assumed), which is enough power to run 9 medium harvesters. If you're not a crafter by nature and don't have a house, Sodan's recommendation is the perfect ratio because it fills all of your lots and uses everything at a perfectly timed rate of consumption. Of course, you'll need to be able to harvest Radioactive for that to work, and Radioactive isn't always available. Have a backup plan or else build up a reserve of power before you start running your steel and fiberplast harvesters. Another option is simply to purchase the power you need - it's easy to find for 1.5 CPU and can be found for less if you look around a bit.


If you want to actually play while grinding, as opposed to purely macroing your way through the profession, then run Artisan Loops while crafting. I was able to earn about 100k XPs and 24k credits per hour while chatting with guild-mates as I worked my way up to MDE. All you need is an Artisan Mission Terminal and a spot 1024 (or so) meters away that has at least 3 resources at or above 70%. Search through the missions until you find 2 (total) for the 3 resources you have available, craft while you run out, survey, then craft while you run back. Takes about 7-8 minutes per loop which is enough time to do about 40 practices of an ADFU.




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telebofh
Mon Dec 29, 2003 10:08 am
#25

Ok, im lost...


Here is the macro as I have it:


/ui action toolbarSlot12;
/selectDraftSchematic 272;
/pause 3;
/nextCraftingStage;
/nextCraftingStage;
/createPrototype Practice noitem;
/createPrototype Practice noitem;



I hit the macro, it opens the tool, it selects the proper draft schematic (mse droid) the screen shows the inventory box to add items but then it just closes.... nothing happens, no xp, no practice item made (no countdown on the tool)...


Have I missed something?




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Drashk
Mon Dec 29, 2003 10:12 am
#26






telebofh wrote:

Ok, im lost...


Here is the macro as I have it:


/ui action toolbarSlot12;
/selectDraftSchematic 272;
/pause 3;
/nextCraftingStage;
/nextCraftingStage;
/createPrototype Practice noitem;
/createPrototype Practice noitem;


I hit the macro, it opens the tool, it selects the proper draft schematic (mse droid) the screen shows the inventory box to add items but then it just closes.... nothing happens, no xp, no practice item made (no countdown on the tool)...


Have I missed something?






Are you actually entering the resources by double clicking on them, while the macro is running? And are you standing by a crafting station while running the macro?






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