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Thread: Umm... did anyone catch the last line in the Patch Notes?

neinnunb
Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:08 pm
#14

There are two sides to that bug fix. The benefit to the artisan and the new expence for everyone else. What does that mean?



  • Artisan will start to make money again with vehicles (I have not sold ONE in months and I have a few in my vendor. Only way they sell now isunderpriced vehicles and that is not worth it. I rather sell the raw materials)

  • Everyone else will think twice about whipping out their vehicles (an element of danger that is sorely needed in this game)

  • Will give BE a larger market because mounts will become more of an option in certain situations such as PvP. Who cares if your Cu Pa gets incapped, they auto heal

  • ..and most importantly, it will create the much needed money sink as originally intended.



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CaixCatab
Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:28 pm
#15

Maybe "someone" should go get some real arguments?


Persoanlly, I think it's a good fix. Swoops'll be a money sink, and since they do allow mission to be done faster, it means more income, and now the drawback works. Don't like it, use a cheaper vehicle or a CH product. Because that's pretty important too, making mounts look like a better option, especially when your just looking to get around town and don't want to waste creds on just calling it.


(.. which reminds me, I need to find someone to turn my pets intomounts...)



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hirosue
Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:12 am
#16


I make swoops to sell from my vendor and i sell a few each week .


I think swoops deteriorate far to quickly ,and the garage repair fees are far too high, so another extremely poor idea from the devs .




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Bendi_James
Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:32 am
#17

I played for several hours (around 6 hours) yesterday, using my swoop to travel from here to there and everywhere. Also, I have 2,321 Hit Points on my Swoop. At the end of my play time, I spent over 5K credits to repair in our local garage. I go days, using my old Landspeeder, before having to repair it......and it has 2375 Hit Points on it. The Swoops are a bad investment and serious money sinks.
Jnath
Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:43 am
#18






hirosue wrote:


I make swoops to sell from my vendor and i sell a few each week .


I think swoops deteriorate far to quickly ,and the garage repair fees are far too high, so another extremely poor idea from the devs .







If you experimented on them and made the HAM higer they wouldnt deteriorate as fast. But they certainly deteriorate at a faster rate than the other bikes, which is why they cost so much. You guys know you can put your bikes away and pull them back out again in the field now. If you would put it away while you are doing the mission (or whatever) they wouldnt die as quick.



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Veers_Intrepid
Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:41 am
#19

yes the repair option was intended so it was obviously they fix it.



one thing i dislike is, that silly mobs bte your metal car into disabled mode, and thats NOT repairable then. thats not nice, iimo it should be repairable. costs just the full ham bar of it, which is expensive enough.



well and i am more concerned about the customizing colors duration, i hope they not just double it to 40 calls LOL then its still useless. colors should be fun not a moneymaker in first place. so make it perma or at least 2000 calls, to be more realistic. my car isnt fading its color when i drive 40 times to McDonalds


(this of course counts same for droids colors)







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hirosue
Sun Apr 25, 2004 10:08 pm
#20

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jnath wrote



If you experimented on them and made the HAM higer they wouldnt deteriorate as fast. But they certainly deteriorate at a faster rate than the other bikes, which is why they cost so much. You guys know you can put your bikes away and pull them back out again in the field now. If you would put it away while you are doing the mission (or whatever) they wouldnt die as quick.


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I do experiment on thevehicles i make . I have made the as high as 82% experimentation . The problem with the rapid condition reduction , is that it is extremely expensive to repair vehicles at garages . If the patch stops the shuttle flight fix , we are going to see a lot of players having to run everywhere again , especially the new players who will be hard pressed to pay the garage repair fees .


Would it not make more sence to have vehicles suffer condition loss in the same manner as armour or weapons ,So that a repair tool could be used with a chance of a failure or maximium condition reduction .This could well re vitalise the vehicle market while at the same time being fairer to player ..


just a though



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RJO
Sun Apr 25, 2004 10:28 pm
#21

We always find it interesting when the smart ass answer for a poll is the one that gets picked the most...



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Niacia
Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:36 am
#22



AudioOrgana wrote:


Naufragus wrote:


AudioOrgana wrote:

Why not store it?


why should i have to store and call store and call...maybe i forgot about it...maybe i like the way my big car looks in front of my house....
Then that's the price you pay for that roleplaying...and 12 hours without using it isn't exactly "store/call/store/call". Come on, what is the big deal? Is storing your vehicle some issue of pride? It's a game mechanic so people can't endlessly have use/access to vehicles without paying for it. Maybe I forgot to pay maintainance on my house...maybe I forgot that the MOBs on Yavin IV can kill you in one hit. That doesn't mean I shouldn't have to pay the consequences.


The smart fix for this would be, if vehicles would detoriate only, when somebody is driving them. Alternatively, the vehicle might give you an option to turn off the motor, thus turning detoriation off.
While I see the (technical) need, that vehicles can be stored and are autostored if a player logs off, it takes away part of the immersion. Luke did not have a datapad to store his speeder in....
From a roleplayers point of view, it would be much nicer, if vehicles (and pets and droids) could not be stored (apart from a at a garage), and could not be called at will.
As a player, i sure do love to be able to call my vehicle everywhere (and not paying an extra fee to put my bike on board of a spaceship).

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Elmseeker
Mon Apr 26, 2004 3:47 am
#23





If you experimented on them and made the HAM higer they wouldnt deteriorate as fast. But they certainly deteriorate at a faster rate than the other bikes, which is why they cost so much. You guys know you can put your bikes away and pull them back out again in the field now. If you would put it away while you are doing the mission (or whatever) they wouldnt die as quick.







Not true at ALL, i've tested thisfairly extensively and my findings are the exact OPPOSITE of this. I went 4 days. Days1 and 2 I stored myswoop at each mission and regenerated after each mission. total repair cost: Approx. 6k each day. Days 3 and 4 I left theswoop out all day and didn't store it from the time I started playing until the time I was ready to log off, total repair cost: Approx. 2k each day. All 4 days were of roughly the same amount of playing time, about 1/2 hour to an hour variation. The main rason I did this test was that while travelling long distances I noticed that myswoop didn't seem to be popping up those - numbers very often. However it seemed to take damage almost every time I generated it. So the key here is, don't store yourswoop unless you HAVE to, because you're going to another planet, taking a shuttle, etc. Wehn on the same planet I use my swoop almost exclusively, it saves money and in some cases time depending on how far I'm going and how long the shuttle wait is.


gando
Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:44 am
#24

I'm sorry but the auto heal made no sense. I regurlay stop by and get my vehicle repaired, and never lost one or gone "bankrupt" from the garage fees.So the change doesn't bother me at all
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