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Thread: Interpreting TH's armor statement

CaixCatab
Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:41 pm
#14

There's to possible ways to go about this;


We could sit here in our very own, very cozy little forum, coming up with jokes on SOE's behalf (fun jokes, I might add ) and hope that someway, somehow, the telepathic abilities of the dev team will mean the important points are transfered into their minds.


Or we could get a many DE's as possible to go to that thread and point outno one iscomprehendinga word of what he said and tell him how things are really working.


'cause I honestly don't think they're realizing what's happend to droid armour (THdidn't evenseem to realize what was supposed to happen...), and no matter how many test-results we post in THIS forum, everyone seems to agree them coming in here looking for our concerns is a myth...





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Naufragus
Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:59 pm
#15

babelfish has just added a Blunderheart to English selection
Naufragus
Mon Mar 08, 2004 11:05 pm
#16

but seriuosly....what my fear is is that Kurt is not making this stuff up himself....that he is simply repeating what he is told...and it is actually the people doing the designing and programming who are really lost and clueless which is why so much is just so out of whack
CapnSteve
Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:24 am
#17

He seems to be saying that the armor stacking bug is fixed. Has anyone checked this? Maybe two level 4 modules give you 40% and one gives you 15% even if the rating is bugged.


I don't know about the rest. The scary thing is: What if he actually meant what he said? I'm envisioning having to plug in extra armor every once in a while to keep my probot's resists at normal.





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Eutock
Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:32 am
#18

That is the funnieststatement I have ever read on these boards.


Start a new petition: get that statement inserted into the in-game Holocron!




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Drachan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:41 am
#19






I recieved a PM on this as well. I spoke with the dev and it has changed a little bit. From what I understand, there have been some changes. Before, armor was used once and gone forever. Now, armor can be repaired (with the new repair kits).


This one is obvious...


It used to be that the armor when crafted onto a droid would overwrite each other’s values instead of summing up multiple armor modules. Now it works properly and you should be seeing that putting multiple droid armor modules into a droid adds up those two modules capabilities and gives the droid the sum of their powers.


I read it this way..
When you had a 10% module and a 20% module it resulted in 20% overall.
With the change the same setup would result in 30%.


So basically, armor with a high rating that is used once and destroyed forever has been replaced with reduced armor that can be repaired and always usable.






I may be wrong with this, cause I'm new to DE and therefore have limited knowledge how everything is working right now, but this way it makes sense at least to me..




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Drachan
Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:46 am
#20





So basically, armor with a high rating that is used once and destroyed forever has been replaced with reduced armor that can be repaired and always usable.






Doh! I missed this one. I take it the rating is reduced to whatever (one stage down i guess, so light armor is max now) and the resists stack now.



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Shian_Tavkin
Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:17 am
#21






SinjenRandall wrote:








I recieved a PM on this as well. I spoke with the dev and it has changed a little bit. From what I understand, there have been some changes. Before, armor was used once and gone forever. Now, armor can be repaired (with the new repair kits).


It used to be that the armor when crafted onto a droid would overwrite each other’s values instead of summing up multiple armor modules. Now it works properly and you should be seeing that putting multiple droid armor modules into a droid adds up those two modules capabilities and gives the droid the sum of their powers.


So basically, armor with a high rating that is used once and destroyed forever has been replaced with reduced armor that can be repaired and always usable.







This is what happens when your kid who has an I.Q. of 156 asks why the sky is blue and you don't know. So youtell that child that it is because of leprechauns and other magical beasts that live at the end of the rainbow. As smart as that child may be, they can't really prove that it doesn't have anything to do with fairy tale creatures. And there is still that slight chance that they will buy it.


I just can't be constructive on this. This is probably theultimate misinformed post on Droids to date. I made a strange noise while reading this post that I have never before created, and it scared me. I thought for a time that I was having a siezure. No matter how many times I re-read this, it never coagulates into something that I am even remotely familiar with, and I have been a DE forever.


So since I don't know what else to do, I have decided to re-word the post. Lets see if it is any better.



I recieved a PM on this as well. I spoke with the dev and it has changed a little bit. I don't understand anything about droids, and quite frankly the Droid Developer hates me very much. When I brought your question to him, he hurled a vase at my head and I had to get out of there doublefast.There have been some changes, but since I couldn't get the answer I decided to make one up.


Before, armor was used once and gone forever. What you would do is craft a special little droid suit of armor for the clear-domed R2 units. Now, armor can be repaired (with the new repair kits). Just ask your droid to hand his armor to you, and you can use your Droid Armor Repair Kit on the armor to fix it. The droid will then thank the maker and hop on its little droid speederbike and pwn everything around it. This has the sum of all the armor powers!


So basically, we nerfed your armor.Your droids were doing pwnage since the last paragraphso we got rid of it and added some kind ofhat. I don't know anything about you guys nor do I care.


Wow! I don't know about anyone else, but this makes a lot more sense. In this version, I can plainly see that he didn't gather the information, and he really wasn't all that broken up about it. Oh, and they nerfed armor.







Absolutely Classic !!! I'm still laughing.



The sad fact is that the man hired by SOE to communicate.......can't, and I have no idea why he can't.


There is absolutely no way on earth to tranlate TH statement into any form of meaningful English, much less have it transmit any type of factual information from 'them' to 'us'


Dear God, we are in a sorry state.








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Arcid
Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:31 am
#22






Shian_Tavkin wrote:

Absolutely Classic !!! I'm still laughing.



The sad fact is that the man hired by SOE to communicate.......can't, and I have no idea why he can't.


There is absolutely no way on earth to tranlate TH statement into any form of meaningful English, much less have it transmit any type of factual information from 'them' to 'us'


Dear God, we are in a sorry state.








I unfortunatly have to agree, one of the causes of the Droid Handler fiasco was that instead of the informative multiple choice question that would have got the information

Instead of "Unfortunatly the Cert system that has been mentioned before isn't feasable, so there are two main choices for high level combat droids. Either DE becomming a Hybrid profession or the addition of a Droid Handler profession. Which of these alternatives would be preferable?"


We got "Do you want DE to become a hybrid profession?"


I'd have to say that it wasn't quite as informative, particularly given that no mention was made about what the options wereor that the proposal that everyone was supporting wasn't viable.


Kilarny
Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:53 am
#23

TH:


Yo, send me a PM and we'll exchange phone numbers. Then set up a conference call - you, me, developers, Drask. Get TK and Audio if you can, as well. We'll get you straightened out - should only take an hour or two.



Jenden
Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:55 am
#24






CapnSteve wrote:

He seems to be saying that the armor stacking bug is fixed. Has anyone checked this? Maybe two level 4 modules give you 40% and one gives you 15% even if the rating is bugged.






The modules are (temporarily) stacking on TC. When I put 2 level 3's in a droid the first time its called it comes out to 20% resists (one level 3 gets 12% resists), but after it is stored and called again the resists jump back up to 40% for either one.



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Envoy3113
Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:52 am
#25

Heh, sounds like our "I want to stress that Pikeman is a Hybrid profession", response on our boards. Problem is, there really is no way to interpret that unless we are looking at leak of combat pass information that has no real meaning to anyone yet. Maybe it is a pre-disposition to remove armor ratings across the board in an attempt back the entire galaxy off of the high lvl content. It would mean less stuff to destroy or re-code. Maybe the same string went into the probots which is in the RIS armor, which is supposed to be med, so maybe it got nerfed to light. Maybe the development team just really doesn't know how they are going to fully execute this 'combat-pass' so there is no 'real'answer, thus we are all given fake ones. Who knows, but you guys just got your own classic TH response, uhm, gratz?



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DarthMortus
Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:26 pm
#26






SinjenRandall wrote:








I recieved a PM on this as well. I spoke with the dev and it has changed a little bit. From what I understand, there have been some changes. Before, armor was used once and gone forever. Now, armor can be repaired (with the new repair kits).


It used to be that the armor when crafted onto a droid would overwrite each other’s values instead of summing up multiple armor modules. Now it works properly and you should be seeing that putting multiple droid armor modules into a droid adds up those two modules capabilities and gives the droid the sum of their powers.


So basically, armor with a high rating that is used once and destroyed forever has been replaced with reduced armor that can be repaired and always usable.







This is what happens when your kid who has an I.Q. of 156 asks why the sky is blue and you don't know. So youtell that child that it is because of leprechauns and other magical beasts that live at the end of the rainbow. As smart as that child may be, they can't really prove that it doesn't have anything to do with fairy tale creatures. And there is still that slight chance that they will buy it.


I just can't be constructive on this. This is probably theultimate misinformed post on Droids to date. I made a strange noise while reading this post that I have never before created, and it scared me. I thought for a time that I was having a siezure. No matter how many times I re-read this, it never coagulates into something that I am even remotely familiar with, and I have been a DE forever.


So since I don't know what else to do, I have decided to re-word the post. Lets see if it is any better.



I recieved a PM on this as well. I spoke with the dev and it has changed a little bit. I don't understand anything about droids, and quite frankly the Droid Developer hates me very much. When I brought your question to him, he hurled a vase at my head and I had to get out of there doublefast.There have been some changes, but since I couldn't get the answer I decided to make one up.


Before, armor was used once and gone forever. What you would do is craft a special little droid suit of armor for the clear-domed R2 units. Now, armor can be repaired (with the new repair kits). Just ask your droid to hand his armor to you, and you can use your Droid Armor Repair Kit on the armor to fix it. The droid will then thank the maker and hop on its little droid speederbike and pwn everything around it. This has the sum of all the armor powers!


So basically, we nerfed your armor.Your droids were doing pwnage since the last paragraphso we got rid of it and added some kind ofhat. I don't know anything about you guys nor do I care.


Wow! I don't know about anyone else, but this makes a lot more sense. In this version, I can plainly see that he didn't gather the information, and he really wasn't all that broken up about it. Oh, and they nerfed armor.







Yes! It's time to stop cooperating with these frauds.I'm so dizzy fromgoing around in cirles with these huckstersthat I have to take dramamine just to keep from falling out of my chair -- or is that the laughter?


Here's something I posted on another thread:


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I've read through many of the messages on this forum. They appear to have the same general theme: "Droid Invasion" is a joke and would have been more aptly titled "Droid Evasion".
What I think the DE community is missing is the simple fact that the current developers of this game are a group of talentless buffoons. Don't expect much out of them. The developers that designed this game have moved on and what we are left with are a group of half-wits that probably spend most of their time making excuses to their managers about how sophisticated the design is and that changes can't be made without creating havoc in the system -- or some such bull.
If a software production team doesn't deliver a finished and well-made product by release date, it is HIGHLY unlikely that it will improve much afterward. The talented developers that are a part of the initial challenging endeavor to create the software get bored and burned out. They move on and are replaced by formula hiring -- the product of the marriage between the corporate human resource machine and IT wannabe's with MBA's, who shun talent out of resentment for not having any themselves.
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I think TH falls in the above category as well.


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